but roughly how long will intel launch broadwell chip? lol.

after christmas or early next year (2015)

i wouldnt bet much on the possibilities of apple getting earlier stock than the launch date as everyone here wished that it is.. so broadwell mbp should be popping out around next year (have to wait for processor stock to reach their factory first to start the manufacturing process.. and of course they need to fill up their warehouse inventory first before selling).
take the current haswell mbpr as an example.. haswell enters market around may-june 2013.. late 2013 mbpr came out on november which is about 5 months gap

well you can wait for the september key note and see how it goes but i would just say buy it now if you need it.. or wait untill next year june for the broadwells

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 22 2014, 12:27 AM

Respect give to those who can wait next year MBPr with broadwells I'm impatient person

i see i see. that's true. i am just stucked thinking whether the 4gb ram of rMBP is enough. anyone uses the base model rMBP for designing work?
will the 13" cause eye strain har because currently i am using a 15" asus, scare cant get used to it.

Hello bro,

In my opinion if you use it for designing such as PS it's okay. But if for rendering better choose 8GB ram. Hm, my previous mbp is 13" now i'm use 15" i think it's quite okay. Not much different

i see. thanks for the info

No problem bro

osx loves ram very very very much. it's a good thing actually but it gets full very easily if it's not enough and begin swapping to disk without you noticing, especially while using heavy applications. plus mbp retina's build in iris will use that same ram as well to give you display at 2560X1600 resolution. so do you think 4GB is enough?

for screen size..retina 13 can go to display option and make the scaled resolution up to 1650X1050 which is still readable (i use this setting all the time on mine). every icon will look tiny but it doesn't matter when you're working cuz you should be using shortcut keys anyways.

since you are a student and is really tight on budget, i will not suggest you getting the mbpr... you can prolly get a very powerful portable PC (bigger than laptop) at the same price and you can game/download/render 24/7 as they all have very good cooling system...albiet a little heavy, ok, maybe twice the weight .
also using macbook may be diff from your uni syllabus and if you're not the type who does self learning, you will have tons of problem later... unless your school teaches in macs then you have no choice (most institutes that teaches with macs usually bundles it into the school fees as learning material anyways).

get a macbook only if you have a workstation already/ have budget for mid/higher spec model/ the need for OSX environment... no point wasting your money to use the mac in bootcamp windows and have it around solely to impress some college hotties and eat maggi mee the rest of the day...cuz trust me, you wont get any chicks with it, i tried

+1 & i love the last parts "cuz trust me, you wont get any chicks with it, i tried"

I do agree that 4GB is definitely not ideal for prolong usage especially when considering it is soldered together with the mainboard. 8GB would be the ideal RAM size. You will appreciate your investment when seeing minimal thrashing. For me who multitasks a lot, even 16GB on my MBP is barely enough when considering my MBP is running for 1 month. Though it helps with minimizing the page outs and swap.

Currently waiting for the next refresh for rMBP and possibly MBA with the rumored Retina display featuring Intel 5th generation Broadwell processor. The waiting will be worth it when I'm retiring my trusty friend MBP 13' 2011.

that is a very honest explanation. thanks a lot.
i guess i will just go for windows pc then.
just 1 question, if like for design rendering, is gpu important? if it is not then i might just go grab an ultrabook with better cpu n ssd.

depends on the software.. those with KUDA or OpenCL support then yes, get one with a nice card that supports it (FYI CUDA = nvidia and OpenCL = ATI). you can get about an honest 80-90% faster frames per second(depending on gpu)... but the drawback is that it stresses the GPU and most laptop dedicated GPU have inadequate cooling.. which is why i would suggest a portable PC.. something big and fat like toshiba qosmio or those msi gaming or alienwares ..those which comes with a huge ass heatsink fan but battery that will last for only 2hours due to raw power. you wouldn't be running on battery for rendering or designing anyways.

photoshop nowadays have gpu acceleration as well and for newbies who tend to use alot of filters and rendered effects, it helps a little.. although im doing very fine without it on my macbook...but when it comes to rendering videos, it cant be compared to my work station due to CUDA.
and students .. confirm assignments are always last minute rush... so faster rendering time = better chances to apply corrections on mistakes so do consider one with a GPU. it saves yours (and also your group mates) life.

if you insisted to get ultrabook.. just buy macbook air/base model pro lar.. they're about the same price range and very similar performance ..ultrabooks are expensive for their size, portability and battery operation lifespan (just like macbooks)

Hello sir,

Im interested at last part, "f you insisted to get ultrabook.. just buy macbook air/base model pro lar.. they're about the same price range and very similar performance ..ultrabooks are expensive for their size, portability and battery operation lifespan (just like macbooks)"

Do the performance of mba (with the price) same as other laptop (same price as mba) ? Let say mba is 3.5k, for other ultrabook for 3.5k do the stats is same or ultrabook win ?

Haih I'm swinging left and right. lol. Mbp after upgrading ram to 8gb will be around 4.2. I kinda like the lenovo yoga 2 pro. Oh well. >< decide after the lenovo y50 release here. Hehe.

Thanks for the info

yep go see for yourself ... mostly at 3.4-4K range ....but some ultrabooks have touchscreens compared to MBA/P which i think what makes the price become similar and sometimes more.

Y50 is a nice choice. .. can play games on ultra settings with 20+ fps sommore...

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 23 2014, 01:07 PM

anyone use photoshop & illustrator on their rMBP here?
kind of decided to get it with 8gb ram but then saw some post online regarding poor performance in those applications.

sos

no issues for me with CC... just turn off GPU acceleration which fixes the laggy photoshop, however it will give you more problem if you render alot of effects cuz using more CPU. i seldom use heavy filters/effects... mostly add noise and liquify only.. thats why i got no problems.

so assume if i need to render alot of effects then the mbp is not a suitable choice?
i am so into the 1.5kg weight. y50 2.3kg is still heavy

render then rasterise lo...keeping the effect there of course will lag. even very powerful PC will lag also, just not as bad.... however rasterising = finalising, so beginners will have problems as they are still not sure with the final outcome so they tend to not rasterise and then lag and crash.

personally i have a PC for more hardcore stuff like rendering videos that might take 5-6 hours...my mac is for the luxury to do lighter stuff like programming or template designing anywhere..or as a really expensive powerbank when im outside . when required, i have my main PC which means i dont depend solely on my mac...however i use my mac most of the time as i don't usually require that much power and i can lay down on the bed with it.... cuz im not really a designer, im just stealing their jobs, occasionally .

as you know. the mbp late 2013 has only 1 fan now and it will be quite hot under heavy load and obviously bad if put to stress for a prolonged time..... so use it wisely and it should be ok (monitor temp and pause job if getting too hot, save and restart if it begin to swap alot etc..)

800g you wont fill much diff in the bag wan la.. it's like adding a 800ml bottle of water only. regardless, if carried for a long time both will end up weighing about the same .. and i dont think you will be carrying it around everywhere you go.. malaysia not safe le suddenly tio rob then sian.... that's why sometimes i carry my mac in an eco shopping bag as decoy

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 28 2014, 12:03 AM