Funds is an issue! I'm not as deep loaded as some of the other sifus here!

I moved my dual SB2000s to a smaller room. I'm currently using dual PB4000s.

Will update pics when possible. These days extremely busy, barely at home most days. Really miss them speakers... my ribbon tweeters collecting dust.

The dual SB2000s in a smaller room is just temporary, I still don't know if I want to sell them or keep them. I really do like them for small rooms and for a more low-key experience - like listening to music or just watching non high action movies/dramas. The PB4000s are obviously in another league and it's pretty much all the bass I want and need - until I got poisoned by the FV18s...

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 21 2018, 03:06 PM

8-9k including or excluding the receiver?
You didn't state any room size, dimensions and listening preference which are all very important... so any recommendation is basically just down to assumption.

So to play it safe;
Q Acoustics 3020i L/R
Q Acoustics 3090ci Center
Q Acoustics 3010 for surrounds
SVS sub - either SB2000 or PB/PC2000, according to your room size, dimension, floor space and what not.

I've only heard Starkesound briefly, no in-home experience with them. So I can't comment on it. But contact Tan from Sound Fusion, super helpful and friendly guy. Maybe you can go to his place for an audition? Also if that's the case, you can also look for Rythmik subs from him.

I recommend QA because they are the "safest" type of speakers to suggest. Meaning, they aren't like Klipsch or SVS Prime speakers where they have elevated treble nor are they warm, dark speakers like Wharfedale or Cambridge. QA does everything decently, but doesn't excel in anything. That's why it's so important to state room size, dimensions and listening preference when asking for speakers and sub recommendation.

Klipsch sells like 40 speakers... all at different price points and categories, which line are you looking at?

Jamo and QA in Malaysia pretty much only consists of their newer and EOL stuff. Jamo makes some amazing speakers but they also have some shitty ones, so which one are you looking at?
For QA, read the posts above yours.

Overkill is a pointless term in audio. You can have 20, 15-inch driver subs in a 1000 square foot room if you wish and have the money to do so - only thing that matters is how you implement it into the room.

Anyways; the Klipsch RP600 series is basically a rebrand of their older RP150/2xx series line. There's really not much difference in them other than the looks and some extra refinements on the crossover. They're good speakers, especially if you want to play loud due to their high sensitivity and don't want to deal with multiple external amps. But bear in mind like many Klipsch speakers, they do have a forward "V" shape sound that tends to compliment action movies where you'd generally want things to "kick you in the face".
They can be a little bright depending on content, so it's subjective whether you can deal with the elevated treble range. Some people like them, some don't. But unlike their old RF series line which was infamous for being borderline harsh, the RP series are much more neutral to the ears in comparison.

For Jamo, I had set up a set of s807 for a friend's place few months ago. Don't have much time with it, only watched a couple movies and an hour or so music with it. But from what I can remember, they are nice sounding "mellow" speakers. Almost like the Q Acoustics 30xx series if you ask me, just with more definition in the mids and treble. The only qualm I have with them is the center channel, it's... not bad, but not very good either. For HT, you always want your center speaker to be as good if not better than the main L/R since 70-90% of the content comes out of there. The Jamo s83 center (IIRC that's the one my friend got), it just can't go very loud before distortion starts to be noticeable - at least not for his room size. It does depend how far you sit and how loud you listen to your content though, it may be enough for you.


So, both line of speakers has faults. Nothing is perfect. I suggest you go listen to them in a proper room and get an idea of how they sound. But remember, different rooms will cause speakers to sound different too. So don't base your conclusions on speakers simply on what you hear in a store, because that store isn't your living room.

No, never even bothered to try out the Atmos modules because bouncing height speakers are trash, pointless and worst of all - expensive.

We opted to use in-ceiling speakers instead, was cheap too. RM800+ for a pair of Yamaha 8" drivers (I think it was the IC800 IIRC) cheap as F - but more importantly can play super loud without crapping itself which is pretty much all that matters for height effects.

If you want to do Atmos, do it once - do it right, otherwise forget it and just put your money into more important things like a better sub or the main LCR speakers.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Dec 17 2018, 08:02 PM

The bigger the better. Would have even opted for 10", too bad wasn't in stock.

If your ceiling and sitting area can accomodate 4, then do 4. Remember, do it once - do it right.

Part of a reason why I switched to SVS Prime Elevations. Dinky little 4.5" drivers but surprisingly, quite adept. Wish SVS would make a 6.5" Elevations though.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Dec 27 2018, 04:16 PM

Don't see an issue to be honest. The v377 has about 70w for 2 channels, full bandwidth. It's not a tank so unless you are planning to play those MF550H in a big room at a high volume, you shouldn't run into clipping issues. Since the MF550H is also a fairly efficient speaker (assuming that 88db/w is true), you're good to go.

Heard only the towers before, they are.... meh. The center speaker being so small is kinda of a downer tbh - it's the most important speaker yet in this package, it's by far the worst speaker.

I suggest you get either ELAC or QA instead. Don't have to buy every speaker at once. Just put all your money into the L/R and Center speaker first, then the sub then surrounds can be whatever. All surrounds need to be are they can play loud without crapping itself - unless you want to squeeze out that last 10% of soundstage immersiveness for an obscene amount of money.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jan 6 2019, 04:54 PM

Can you be more specific about your space constraints? Otherwise the recommendations will just go around in circles.

That's a pretty bad area to be honest. Between the stairs is one thing, but where your setup is is basically in an alcove. Bass would be boomy, mids muddy and highs would either be lifeless, echo-y or harsh (due to so many reflective surfaces as well). Your situation is quite dire. If you get small speakers, you get no bass. If you get big enough speakers for some adequate bass, it can sound boomy.

The best I can think of is the SVS Prime satellites or Prime Elevation, then get a center channel and put it on a 16" stand below your TV, then put some wedges so that you point it up towards your ears at your sitting position. That said, the Prime Satellites/Elevations don't have a lot of bass so a sub is pretty much mandatory. But looking at your area, I can't see where you can put the sub at. Maybe behind your seat(s)?

Other than HTIB towers, not really? I mean, towers are designed to be towers for a reason - to get reasonable bass without an absolute need for subs (though I kinda disagree, subs are the foundation of sound).

Actually looking at the the space again, I do think you may be able to put a pair of bookshelves with 5.25" drivers there. Are you sure the Q acoustics 3010i won't fit there? Its width is only 5.9 inches.

QA probably stylelaser, they always have ready stock.

SVS can direct contact maxxht or his resellers like Chong @ Actcessory depending on your locaiton.

A HT calibrator has to personally come to your place anyways, why you worry about distance?

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 27 2019, 03:42 PM

Add sub(s).

You make it sound like it's impossible to find the manual on the internet, it only takes 20 seconds - https://www.denon.co.uk/uk/product/homecine...eceiver/avr4310

The easiest way not to cut holes in your ceiling is to just do on-walls, high up. It's about as easy as it gets, drill 4 holes - put a bracket, install your speaker - pull your wire.

Example:



It's leagues better than the silly upfiring method, doesn't cost too much to do and can be done in an hour or so. Clean up is also minimal.

That's not my setup, just an example that I found for the Prime Elevations.


It doesn't really... work that way? The speakers dictates how a movie (or anything really) sounds like for the vast majority of what you hear. The receiver (and amp) doesn't quite "add" or "alter" that sound quality. It's a bit more complex than that. Different room EQ (in this example Audyssey vs YPAO for Denon vs Yamaha) will work differently in different rooms, which is one of the most important things in home audio. So just with that alone (along with several other variables like the amp section in receivers) already discredit a comparison between receivers.

So to just compare Denon vs Yamaha, which is better for movie... you can't compare it that way in a apples-vs-apples comparison.

You choose a receiver based on the features you want and how deep your pockets are. Not how they "sound".