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saitong09
post Jun 16 2016, 09:01 PM

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Setting up Dali Zensor system. As for front speaker, is that worth to take Zensor 7 over Zensor 1 where the price is 3 times higher mostly on action movie? What's the benefit of floorstand over Book shelf?

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post Jun 17 2016, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 16 2016, 09:06 PM)
The the high and lower range is much more than bookshelf. Of course for movies is always advisable for floor stander
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Is the sound significant different for floorstand over bookshelf? Thinking of save the extra 2k++ for a good sub
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post Jun 17 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Jun 17 2016, 07:50 AM)
Once you go floorstander...you won't go back  biggrin.gif

A lot of difference bro
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 17 2016, 09:38 AM)
Definitely having a sub is important but that might not compensate everything a floorstander can cover. It also comes down to the speaker itself on how high / low it can go.
This is to ensure no missing freq. The source of the audio is also very important. As personally I had experience before because of a good source and is really very consistent.
Last year, I happen to have a pair of Q-acoustic bookshelf in my house which belong to a friend. I had used it for HT for testing. All movies tested are BD. Player is  Oppo 103D
with Yamaha A3050 AVR. Now few movies tested for TrueHD, DTS-MA and atmos. No DTS X that time to test. For TrueHD and DTS-MA with bookshelf is just so-so. I had a SVS
sub on all movies during the test. With my floorstander (B&W CM8) the sound is much fuller. Now, finally tested movie with atmos. I will expect it to be the same result but to
my surprise the bookshelf perform as good as my floorstander this time around. If I will to do a blind test, I cannot tell the difference at all. So is best for you to try out yourself
to make the conclusion.
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Yeah, I'll drop by the audio shop for an audience before make the conclusion. Anyway thanks for the advice smile.gif
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post Jun 17 2016, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 17 2016, 10:32 AM)
Happy hunting
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 17 2016, 10:51 AM)
You can determine it by yourself on auditioning side by side between the bookshelf and floorstander of the same series. Personally, I would go with floorstanders if space is not an issue but it is most important that you choose a speaker that you feel sounds accurate and pleasing to you in your listening environment.
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If the price is not much difference definitely will go for floorstand smile.gif
But the quoted price for Zensor 5 or Zensor 7 triple the price of Zensor 1, so really need auditioning before make the decision.
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post Jun 17 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 17 2016, 02:09 PM)
Totally understand on the budget, so is best to invest in sub because HT cannot be without sub  tongue.gif
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lol if go for Floorstand, temporary use back my old pioneer 12 inch sub. Next only change the sub
Btw, floorstand zensor 5 vs 7, which 1 should go to match my Zensor Vokal? Is the Zensor 7 (7 inch woofer) make a big difference over Zensor 5 (5.25 inch)?
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post Jun 17 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 17 2016, 08:32 PM)
Dali Zensor 5 should be good enough. Try to spend more on the sub but if budget is not a constrain then DZ 7 would be better of course. All LCR must be timbre matched. You can also consider Dynaudio speakers if budget allow.
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Most probably will go for DZ 7 cause different by few hundreds only compare to DZ 5 if I chosen floorstand. Btw, since all my speaker can handle below 60Hz, should I set the crossover at 60Hz or 80Hz as recommended by THX?
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post Jun 17 2016, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 17 2016, 10:18 PM)
The setting depends on your sub as well. For myself I set it at 120hz
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cross over setting 120Hz setting on AVR or sub? If AVR, what's the reason?
I read article said if your AVR have dedicated setting for each channel, set as low as your speaker can handle. If only 1 setting for all channel, choose the highest usually surround speaker will be the bottle neck.

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post Jun 18 2016, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 18 2016, 08:20 AM)
It's on AVR. The reason for this my SVS ultra can handle it. Having cross over overlapping certain range of freq is always better to ensure there is no loss of freq.
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In this case most of the low frequency will be routed to your sub and less bass from all others speaker.
BTW, did you tried set to 80hz or 60hz? Any different?
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 18 2016, 10:23 AM)
That is the idea. A good sub will do all the low freq. speakers are for high and mid
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Your sub will be very busy tongue.gif
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post Jun 18 2016, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 18 2016, 11:56 AM)
It should be. That is what sub should do. Each speaker and sub has its own duty. Doing it right will give you good sound. Doing it wrong and is noise that all you get
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So 120hz giving you the best sound? Did you tried 60 or 80hz?
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post Jun 18 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 18 2016, 04:15 PM)
Yes so far this is the best for me. Tried 80 but not 60
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Oic, did you run audyssey for your system? So what's the crossover setting from audyssey?

QUOTE(bad2928 @ Jun 18 2016, 05:51 PM)
I set my front to 60hz because im using power amp  biggrin.gif
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Nice, only power amp on front channel?
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post Jun 18 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 18 2016, 09:06 PM)
I am using Yamaha so no audyssey. Only power amp for front
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If power amp for the front channel, will the center and surround balanced when watching movie?
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 20 2016, 09:20 AM)
Ya if the price is not much difference then better go with DZ 7 and how much you was quoted, by A & L I supposed?

For crossover setting, I tried between 80hz and 120hz, currently I set it at 80hz. Low frequencies are redirected to your subwoofer instead of your other speakers. Usually 80 Hz is a commonly recommended crossover setting by THX because this is the generally accepted point at which it becomes difficult for humans to localize a sound.
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Yeah, 80Hz should be good enough. You interested on DZ 7?
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 20 2016, 11:07 AM)
Setting the cross over must be determine by your speakers and sub capability. Recommendation is a guide line. Wrong setting meaning there some freq that will be missing or too much overlap
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After ran audyssey calibration, the crossover was set to 40Hz which doesn't match to my speaker

QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 20 2016, 12:11 PM)
Previously, I was quite interested in DZ 7 with its clear, engaging sound and elegantly built but pretty sure it will be out of my budget. Therefore, never get to check on its price here.
This is true and therefore need to use your avr's ypao or audyssey for calibration.
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So what front speaker you bought after gave up DZ 7?
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 20 2016, 09:44 PM)
Nothing!  biggrin.gif as it is not a priority. Actually on the quest for other gears...

So have you auditioned  DZ 7 yet?
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Not yet, maybe next month smile.gif
How much A&L quoted you last time for the DZ 7?
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 20 2016, 10:15 PM)
I didn't ask for any quote previously. AV show is next month, maybe can visit them and try asking it for good price!
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oh, when is the AV show?
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post Jun 21 2016, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 20 2016, 11:22 PM)
22nd - 24th July, 2016. Can check it out there!
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Never been there, maybe this round go smile.gif
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post Jun 21 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 21 2016, 09:32 AM)
This year mainly will be 4K and Atmos / DTS X.
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Dolby Vision
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post Jun 22 2016, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 21 2016, 08:56 AM)
Then you must try to go as most of the latest av gear will be showcase there! I also got some of my av gears at very good prices for the past shows.
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Usually they will display their flagship product right? Not sure if they got offering for entry level.
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post Jun 22 2016, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 22 2016, 09:25 AM)
Usually the lower floors will have some thing like warehouse sale
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 22 2016, 10:02 AM)
Usually both ranges will be showcase and maybe some older models with higher discount and whereas newer models usually with very little discount especially for flagship models but it would also depends on what brands or items you are looking for.

You looking for other gears beside DZ 7?
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Front speaker no choice have to go for DZ cause current center and surround are DZ. Might consider sub and avr if higher offer smile.gif

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