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post Apr 7 2015, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(BlueWind @ Apr 6 2015, 09:51 PM)
I'll be getting a car 3 months down the road. So far I'm thinking to either get a good second hand Fiesta or a new Myvi/Iriz for that kind of price range. I'm trying to scour all the available information I have in here but still couldn't make up my mind. I was advised to not get a Fiesta due to its jerky gearbox, which my friend who is driving it attest to it as well, but so far he's ok with the car. Whereas my colleague tells me don't get that car. Now, I'm the kind of the guy who wants the car to last long without actually feeling the car aged quickly as how a local car would.

I do plan on test driving these cars before buying it while taking into few points for consideration.

Any thoughts/opinion you can share would be appreciated. I need some points to ponder.
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Have you considered the KIA Rio 1.4 A/T? It's a great car with many safety features including ESP and 6 airbags. You may consider going for the comfort spec EX instead of the premium one SX if you have budget limitation.


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QUOTE(johnlth93 @ Apr 1 2015, 10:26 PM)
so what's your call? blush.gif
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first i went to book a new kimchi compact car.

n then i book a 2001 wira.

then i settled for the wira blush.gif

how about u?
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post Apr 9 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Apr 9 2015, 03:50 PM)
first i went to book a new kimchi compact car.

n then i book a 2001 wira.

then i settled for the wira  blush.gif

how about u?
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you already got your 2001 wira? for how much and what's the condition?

I am changing target hehe I am getting Persona 2008
Later call for show room Saturday go see, only weekend free to move around cry.gif
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QUOTE(johnlth93 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:52 PM)
you already got your 2001 wira? for how much and what's the condition?

I am changing target hehe I am getting Persona 2008
Later call for show room Saturday go see, only weekend free to move around  cry.gif
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around my budget.. 7k+

condition

exterior new paint,
no noticeable weird sounds,
although still not satisfied yet i never get to see underneath.. u know all kind of metal rubber connection down there..

interior pretty bad
plastics disintegrated here n there, loosening parts aircond vents also bad bad
seat also koyak in few places biggrin.gif

spent 200+ so far for service beltings n tayar balancing alignment. planning for grounding works soon.
got engine ok ady then only take care of the cosmetics.
if i want to that is. otherwise pretty good so far i would say blush.gif

haih what to do, the thrill of taking care of old buddy wub.gif

good luck on ur car hunting icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 9 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Apr 9 2015, 05:01 PM)
around my budget.. 7k+

condition

exterior new paint,
no noticeable weird sounds,
although still not satisfied yet i never get to see underneath.. u know all kind of metal rubber connection down there..

interior pretty bad
plastics disintegrated here n there, loosening parts aircond vents also bad bad
seat also koyak in few places biggrin.gif

spent 200+ so far for service beltings n tayar balancing alignment. planning for grounding works soon.
got engine ok ady then only take care of the cosmetics.
if i want to that is. otherwise pretty good so far i would say blush.gif

haih what to do, the thrill of taking care of old buddy  wub.gif

good luck on ur car hunting  icon_rolleyes.gif
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lol sound like dying car sweat.gif

7k+ is so cheap price if it's running great, can do after market cosmetic anyway.

can let me know where u bought it? maybe pm me if sensitive brows.gif
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post Apr 9 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(johnlth93 @ Apr 9 2015, 05:13 PM)
lol sound like dying car sweat.gif

7k+ is so cheap price if it's running great, can do after market cosmetic anyway.

can let me know where u bought it? maybe pm me if sensitive  brows.gif
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About the price also in any online market

Bought it from tct automotive sri kembangan. U can find a thread people complaining about it. Mine included doh.gif

My friends see the car they said OK LA, in fact they are the one influencing me making this decision. Just do sufficient preventive maintenance OK dy. But no gaya LA, haha biggrin.gif

Hopefully we will be together for long time wub.gif
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post Apr 10 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Apr 9 2015, 06:15 PM)
About the price also in any online market

Bought it from tct automotive sri kembangan. U can find a thread people complaining about it. Mine included doh.gif

My friends see the car they said OK LA, in fact they are the one influencing me making this decision. Just do sufficient preventive maintenance OK dy. But no gaya LA, haha biggrin.gif

Hopefully we will be together for long time wub.gif
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I had called a few dealer ytd to ask for availability .. Saturday going to view them.

Hopefully can strike a good bargain huhu
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post Apr 10 2015, 12:03 PM

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1. New Toyota Vios J spec vs Used Honda City 2009 Model
2. Finance: 50k-70k (Cash for downpayment: 20k)
3. New *75K vs Used *58K
4. New vs Reg Used
5. Both Auto
6. Both NA
7. Both Sedan
8. Remarks.

I wish to get a car (New or Used) for work.

Im currently eyeing on a used Honda City 2009 Full spec model, running at 40k mileage, well maintained by previous owner. But it is a 6 years old car, considering major maintenance are just around the corner. I wish to own this car, i have enough finance to buy a new car but i dont want to overspend on car which depreciates.

However, my stubborn dad insist me to get a new vios, he said T brand should have a higher resale value and low maintenance cost.

Considering a new myvi or proton is a no no for me, as i need a reliable car which can last me for a 10 years, as u know la, both national brand cars are so so only

So whats your opinion? with 50k Budget, go for myvi, used city or new vios?

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post Apr 10 2015, 08:11 PM

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Hi sifu wnna get a advice for this
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : <10k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : any
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : sedan/hatch/coupe
8. Remarks :
-plan to pakai for short term say1-2 years
-Fuel consumption, sparepart maintenance, susceptibility to Car theft/vandalism in kl
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post Apr 11 2015, 08:12 PM

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1. Brand : 2001 Toyota Celica (A) 1.8 VVTL-I
2. Budget : 35-40k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs: Any
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : Daily drive area KL/PJ, fuel save, easy to get spare part & less maintenance cost.

Actually I just found this car. is it worth it?

http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/2208165/20...1-8-vvtl-i.html

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post Apr 14 2015, 05:14 PM

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Looks like my plan to get the mazda6 have to be postponed as my wife wants the monthly installment to be spent on property rather than a car. However, I still need a car to drive to work daily. So I am looking for:

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : less than 20k (cash). Can stretch up to 25k but not desirable.
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs: Prefer 1600cc to 2000cc engine.
5. Transmission : AT preferred. MT also can be considered depend on what car.
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Sedan only. No MPV/SUV/Hatchback/Pickup
8. Remarks : Will be daily-driven area Shah Alam - Cyberjaya, sometimes will use for long distance travel, so I want a car that is fun and exciting to drive. Easy to maintain and easy to get spareparts.

I have 2 cars in mind, Honda Civic EJ/EK 4 doors or Proton Waja CPS. Which one is better? I love the EJ/EK but the car is old (year 97). Waja CPS u can get year 2008 with the same price range, but the brand is not favourable sad.gif My brother suggest the Mitsubishi Galant VRG. A handsome car but the spareparts maybe hard to find here. U can also suggest other car/brand as well.


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post Apr 14 2015, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(johnlth93 @ Mar 27 2015, 03:27 PM)
1. Brand : anything
2. Budget : max RM15k (cash)
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : anything
5. Transmission : auto preferred, manual is acceptable
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : Sedan preferred
8. Remarks : I'm currently away from home for studies, so cash payment is a must as no longer working so loan not possible.
Max acceptable price RM15k as I still need some reserved cash for after purchase modding.
I'll be using it about 3 to 4 times a week and need to be able to interstate travel every 3 to 6 months (going back hometown) it's a long ass 8 hrs drive.

Please advise. smile.gif
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Sorry for interrupting, Im letting off my Waja. Have a look at this link for more details. Thanks, good day smile.gif https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3549236&hl=
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QUOTE(KenYoung @ Mar 23 2015, 02:49 AM)
hey thanks alot for the info.!!

i like the asx but also looking at the crv... mom not so keen on CRV bcoz she says parts for Honda has always been known to be expensive.
BUT, i was telling her TODA car parts are usually the most cost efficient. correct me if im wrong. hehe

oh , to do a comprehensive search on the used cars im looking for, im looking at 5 webs:

http://www.motortrader.com.my/index.html
http://www.mudah.my/li?cg=1020&w=3&th=1
http://www.autoworld.com.my/
http://www.oto.my/?display=list

another 1, which have very limited search feature is http://www.carsifu.my/cars

are there any webs or avenues i can look into? would like to exhaust my options before deciding. hehe

it is good to note a few webs listed on first post are not available.
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u can checkout carlist too nod.gif
honda sure expensive if go service center laugh.gif

QUOTE(NoiZy @ Mar 25 2015, 07:15 PM)
1. Brand : Kia Forte 2.0sx
2. Budget : 50k+
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0sx
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : I've always loved Forte, if its still in production I will get a new one  whistling.gif

Anyways, despite my personal preference, would like to know if its a good choice or should I look at better alternatives. I'm making a change somewhere around Q3/Q4 this year. But would like to slowly do some research starting now.

I'm still driving a 25 year old toyota which drinks petrol like a KING. And my job requires me to travel all over KL/Selangor.
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For that price there are alot of options.
Forte isn't a bad car.
Kia has been known to give alot of accessories/tech but still being cheaper than their Japanese rivals.
However on paper they seem to match their Japanese counter parts with 2000cc engine and 6 speed gearbox.....yet aren't as powerful and frugal.
Koreans are getting better but still Japanese makes will edge them out.
For your budget you can get a really boring looking Toyota Altis but it would be a big upgrade from your current Toyota because it is very spacious, decent engine performance/frugality and cheap maintenance.

QUOTE(mbax @ Mar 25 2015, 08:14 PM)
WTA
1. Brand : toyota corolla se 1.3
2. Budget : RM3-4.5k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : stock
5. Transmission : manual 5 speed
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : price around rm3.8k run on carb is it acceptable?
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QUOTE(Calvin789 @ Mar 24 2015, 05:27 PM)
WTB
1. Brand : toyota le 1.3
2. Budget : RM3-4.5k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : stock
5. Transmission : manual 5 speed
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : nice body..  And acceptable engine
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I guess it is okay since our JPJ doesn't care about environmental impact.
However if fuel consumption and engine efficiency is a concern then you could always opt for a Civic EF

QUOTE(zikre2003 @ Mar 26 2015, 03:55 PM)
1. Brand : Honda S2000/Nissan Silvia/Toyota Supra
2. Budget : 88K (Loan-if acceptable)
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Sport
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : 2 seater
8. Remarks : Got any turbo-equipped/nice speaker also OK
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These are good choices of iconic 90's japanese sports cars but why automatic?
Automatics back then were crappy and couldn't handle the power thus if any models had automatics there were crippled "shampoo cars" in today's language it would be "poser cars". I'd suggest you go for newer models with DSG if you want performance cars with automatics.

2004 Nissan Silvia - this one comes under budget however it is a 2004 car, getting a loan might be tricky. It looks like a private seller so you've gotta do all the leg work of getting documents from him and submission to banks, jpj, etc to get your car. Usually, for me I'd rather do it myself when dealing with private sellers to avoid issues/conjobs. If you've got friends working as car salesman you can get him to help you out, if you're lucky you can get a normal loan 10% deposit 90% loan.....worst case scenario is cash deal.....but usually if it is just pass the 10 years old mark you can still get loan but maybe not 90% maybe 80/70%. Anyway, if you like it quickly track down the seller as automatic S15's don't come around very often in the market as most people love this car for its looks, power and drift capability.....so it is 99% of the time a manual.

1997 Toyota Supra - Supra is going to be quite old and expensive (3000cc engine - imagine the roadtax!) to maintain, not going to be easy to find and buy as it is always going to be a cash deal because of it's age. If I am not mistaken the automatic will always come without a turbo. IMHO it is going to be too much to be worth it unless you're going to keep it as a 3rd car for collection sake, maintenance would be high for a daily runner, this is better to be skipped.

I don't see any s2000 under budget and their mostly manuals anyway.

I suggest the models below....

2007 Smart Roadster - new enough to have updated safety standards and technology but old enough to be affordable. This is a chic roadster, it doesn't come with a big engine only a 700cc lump to power the whole car, which doesn't sound alot but this car has been built like a Lotus which means the concept of lightweight chassis and good handling. If you want a coupe with sporty looks that can overtake other cars at highway speeds or traffic light drag race this isn't the car, however if you enjoy Sunday drives up and down winding roads like Genting Sempah, Genting or old trunk roads this is a blast. A similar car but cheaper would be the 2006 Mg TF

2013 Honda CRZ - would be similar to the car above, it isn't all about power. However, the big differentiation between this Honda and the two above is maintenance. While the two above would be affordable or expensive depending on the workshop and items that need to be repaired, Honda's as we all know are more on the affordable side with a 1500cc engine similar to the one found in the Honda City it is not going to be a maintenance nightmare unless the Hybrid system breaks down, the newer models such as CRZ have a long warranty period for the Hybrid IMA system and have more affordable pricing for replacement parts.

The 3 models above are compromises yet don't give much performance for the money spent, if performance is what you want see below....

2012 VW Polo GTI - it is a 2-door coupe as you wanted, turbo as you wanted, DSG with paddle shifting automatic gearbox......the only blackspot is that this is 1400cc + 7AT DSG which is notorious for breaking down. I suggest going 1up to 2008 VW Golf GTI which I think is the car that has it all except for being 2-door for you. GTI's with their 2000cc turbo and 6AT DSG's aren't known for breaking down. However, if you insist on performance+2door+auto then my last offer to you is 2005 Mini JCW and for your budget there are alot of models and ages to choose from which can get confusing anyway to make it easier the turbo ones will always have an air scoop with the S logo.....the best of them are JCW variants.

Maybe you could narrow your search and we can chat more about it?
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QUOTE(boonheng87 @ Mar 26 2015, 05:17 PM)
Well said. Thx for your inputs. Yes, I must agree on your comments on SA. =)
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QUOTE(hookeyWHY @ Mar 27 2015, 12:05 AM)
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looking at your requirement and budget.
it seems your requirement is more on city travel, although klang to pj isn't really that near but mostly nowadays it will be in heavy traffic so getting a higher cc car with higher maintenance cost and (maybe) higher fuel cost (depending on driving style) isn't worth it. a smaller compact car with a fuel efficient engine would serve better purpose for you thus Axia is a good buy. although within your budget you can also afford a myvi.

if you don't travel outstation by driving a car often i don't see why you need a bigger car like myvi 1.5 or vios (b-segment), of course you can still travel outstation in your axia but it will be a very tiring drive needing a few stops as these cars aren't design for highway/outstation drives so while seremban is fine, i think anywhere further like melaka/ipoh you'd need at least one stop.

2013 P2 Myvi - if the advert is true then this would be a good buy since it is below market price for the spec given.

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2009 BMW 323i LCI - first off you've gotta know your BMW, and BMW's until recently with their F30 turbocharged inline4's their known for their silky smooth and powerful inline6 engines, the first thing you'll notice when you search online for E90's is alot of 320i's on sale this is the same as when you search for Honda Accord's you see alot of 2.0's for sale but lesser for 2.4? Why is that so? Well, most of the 2000cc engines after 2006 have been strangled alot because of emission regulations thus you can see most NA 2000cc cars are within the range of 140-160hp, which is quite pitiful for a D-segment. If you really love this model I'd suggest you either take the 323i or 325i, both are based on a 2500cc inline6, imho a de-tuned 2500cc engine to be a 323i is better for cheaper roadtax and with a "magic box" you can release the performance from that engine brows.gif

2008 Audi A4 B7 and 2007 VW Passat are from the same generation, you can save yourself 30k by buying the Passat as they are generally the same. Usually, the only difference between them is equipment levels and interior materials while Audi is marketed as a luxury brand thus it has the equipment levels and interior design/materials to back it up. If you want something just as good at a more affordable price you'd always go for a VW (this is in europe but seems true for this case as well). At this point in time both models had an FSI engine option for NA and a TSI (turbo + FSI) engine option, as TSI became popular the FSI ones became less popular thus you'd hardly see them in the used car market, Audi B8 model really turn things around for the A4 in terms of sales and popularity you can see them everywhere which is why the B7 price hasn't dropped much because many if cannot afford the B8 would go for the B7 as they think it is more or less the same. Well, engine wise they both use TSI technology but the B8 has what is considered the next generation as it's heart while also having a DSG gearbox (not the crappy one in the VW's this is the 8 gear top spec version for Audi) while the older Passat and A4 have to make do with a regular 6 speed automatic slush box from Aisin (reliable? yes but we all know the shortcomings of a regular automatic vs DSG type gearboxes). For the same amount of money and closer to A4 B8 (the 1.8 variant) you can opt for 2012 VW Passat.

2008 Merc C200 Kompressor - i don't really think this is a good deal because of the price as a friend of mine paid around 40-50k for the same model but older I think 2002 this is the w203 model from 2000-2007) after which they started to sell the w204 (2008-2014) which you see everyday on our roads and that is the model I wanna intro to you. 2010 Merc C180 CGI this might break your budget abit because i decided to show you a recon/unreg unit which you can buy with 1 year warranty from the dealer and with new car interest rates so it is almost as good as a new car but at a much lower price (you can't buy any other luxury brand unreg at a Toyota Altis price). Kompressor is the older technology from Merc which is a supercharger while CGI is the newer turbocharging trend as other European carmakers. You can get used CGI C200/C180 for under your budget as well, probably among this list of cars you have this model would be the cheapest to maintain because it is a very common car on the road thus parts are cheap and easily available and you don't really need to go to a specialist for everything.

Mazda 6 - meh!

Alfa 159 2.2 JTS is a beautifully crafted car inside out, no doubt very striking and rare. Most people wouldn't even know what it is or how old it is if you didn't tell them. I think it is a good car but engine wise it is abit of a disapointment, spoken to some owners and although it is quite powerful they expected abit more from a Alfa Romeo with JTS engine - so while it is capable you might feel dejected when a Golf TSI 1.4 overtakes you on the highway and you don't have enough juice to overtake him at a higher speed. Relatively cheap to buy (Toyota Vios price) but many have voiced concerns for reliability and maintenance cost.

2012 Suzuki Kizashi - i really like this car and although they've cleared all the stock already so no more stock clearance price of 110k for it, it is still a good and capable car. Like the BMW 3-series it is a D-segment but considered compact D-segment because of it's sporty nature it is not a big fat barge like a Camry, it is abit snug like the 3-series and 159 on the inside, unlike most Japanese D-segments.

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2000 Proton Wira 1.6 - one of the better Proton Wira models was the 1.6XLi because unlike all the other Wira automatics this one is a 4AT (4 speed) automatic while the other 1.3/1.5 Wira's have to make due with a 3AT (which is tough and reliable, but not very frugal). So it has a good engine and gearbox. Maintenance and spare parts are always going to be cheap for this model. I must say that the one in this advert looks quite good, it looks in good stock condition, quite rare.

2000 Nissan Cefiro - if you need abit more power for highway speeds you can consider this, all-in-all will be abit more expensive to maintain but worth it if you travel outstation alot and carry a few people with you.

QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Mar 29 2015, 06:31 PM)
want to ask which car suitable for newbie? use for work and school

Toyota Camry 2.2GX 1997
Proton Wira 1.5
Nissan Sentra 1.6 1997

Personally like the Camry 97, but spare part will expensive? compare to Wira spare part
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wira spare parts are dirt cheap cannot be compared with the other two.
of course decent quality spares for wira would put it in the same range as the sentra but if you really wanna go super stingy you can with wira/kancil as they're very long in the market so many types of parts you can source for.....new/oem/recon/used/fake/etc laugh.gif

sentra might not give you much of an impression i guess because nissan normal cars are known to always look uninspiring laugh.gif

camry is good, old models like that have cheap parts but it is still not going to be as cheap as the wira.

go in mudah and search for a common spare part between the 3 cars then u get an idea what i am talking about laugh.gif
the difference is big or small really depends on your pocket and expectations.

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1. Brand : Mazda RX FC3S
2. Budget : 25k, depends on condition, engine rebuild or overhaul
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs: any
5. Transmission : MT
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : Will be weekend car.

Is it possible to find one within that price range? I've been searching high and low for this car, so far, the only one that i found end up wanting to sell it for track purpose.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 15 2015, 04:13 AM)
These are good choices of iconic 90's japanese sports cars but why automatic?
Automatics back then were crappy and couldn't handle the power thus if any models had automatics there were crippled "shampoo cars" in today's language it would be "poser cars". I'd suggest you go for newer models with DSG if you want performance cars with automatics.

2004 Nissan Silvia - this one comes under budget however it is a 2004 car, getting a loan might be tricky. It looks like a private seller so you've gotta do all the leg work of getting documents from him and submission to banks, jpj, etc to get your car. Usually, for me I'd rather do it myself when dealing with private sellers to avoid issues/conjobs. If you've got friends working as car salesman you can get him to help you out, if you're lucky you can get a normal loan 10% deposit 90% loan.....worst case scenario is cash deal.....but usually if it is just pass the 10 years old mark you can still get loan but maybe not 90% maybe 80/70%. Anyway, if you like it quickly track down the seller as automatic S15's don't come around very often in the market as most people love this car for its looks, power and drift capability.....so it is 99% of the time a manual.

1997 Toyota Supra - Supra is going to be quite old and expensive (3000cc engine - imagine the roadtax!) to maintain, not going to be easy to find and buy as it is always going to be a cash deal because of it's age. If I am not mistaken the automatic will always come without a turbo. IMHO it is going to be too much to be worth it unless you're going to keep it as a 3rd car for collection sake, maintenance would be high for a daily runner, this is better to be skipped.

I don't see any s2000 under budget and their mostly manuals anyway.

I suggest the models below....

2007 Smart Roadster - new enough to have updated safety standards and technology but old enough to be affordable. This is a chic roadster, it doesn't come with a big engine only a 700cc lump to power the whole car, which doesn't sound alot but this car has been built like a Lotus which means the concept of lightweight chassis and good handling. If you want a coupe with sporty looks that can overtake other cars at highway speeds or traffic light drag race this isn't the car, however if you enjoy Sunday drives up and down winding roads like Genting Sempah, Genting or old trunk roads this is a blast. A similar car but cheaper would be the 2006 Mg TF

2013 Honda CRZ - would be similar to the car above, it isn't all about power. However, the big differentiation between this Honda and the two above is maintenance. While the two above would be affordable or expensive depending on the workshop and items that need to be repaired, Honda's as we all know are more on the affordable side with a 1500cc engine similar to the one found in the Honda City it is not going to be a maintenance nightmare unless the Hybrid system breaks down, the newer models such as CRZ have a long warranty period for the Hybrid IMA system and have more affordable pricing for replacement parts.

The 3 models above are compromises yet don't give much performance for the money spent, if performance is what you want see below....

2012 VW Polo GTI - it is a 2-door coupe as you wanted, turbo as you wanted, DSG with paddle shifting automatic gearbox......the only blackspot is that this is 1400cc + 7AT DSG which is notorious for breaking down. I suggest going 1up to 2008 VW Golf GTI which I think is the car that has it all except for being 2-door for you. GTI's with their 2000cc turbo and 6AT DSG's aren't known for breaking down. However, if you insist on performance+2door+auto then my last offer to you is 2005 Mini JCW and for your budget there are alot of models and ages to choose from which can get confusing anyway to make it easier the turbo ones will always have an air scoop with the S logo.....the best of them are JCW variants.

Maybe you could narrow your search and we can chat more about it?
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i quote three cars because all of them are my favourites! biggrin.gif
just prefer the sporty looks yet affordable under 88k budget..
sometimes i prefer Fairlady too.. haha

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a) They're both very economical car to drive, fuel consumption isn't an issue. Also not underpowered and nippy to drive around in.
b) They're both very old models and all the parts price are very cheap, want cheaper? Get reconditioned parts from chop shop.
c) There are alot for them at the moment but slowing down as makers of accessories now focus on newer models. But even so if you're looking for HID upgrades or DRL kit's they're still available. Don't think they will stop any time soon but the choices might be limited to a few brands only.
d) They're not expensive sub 10k cars can even be found but you must be prudent to weed out cars with problems or in bad condition.

If you're buying it as a single driver car to commute to work I think it fits the job well, but as a family car well....
i) safety is an issue is is not very big so collision with bigger cars like 4x4 from the rear is dangerous for passengers
ii) size it is quite small and not recommended if your family has more than 3 persons
iii) practicality is an issue not much space for alot of cargo, stroller, luggage, etc when balik kampung.

You might want to consider a Proton Saga BLM if you need more space for your family.
If you're a single working adult or student then it is a good buy, cheap to run and buy.

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still considering to get a Wira or not?

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You're quite right that the Alza wouldn't fit your requirements as it is basically a stretched Myvi, thus the rear seats are okay for children only (maybe adults for but short trips like fetching colleagues to lunch), most people I know that buy Alza are parents with 1-2 kids they don't really need the seats behind but the extra length for storage of strollers and other equipment when they go out with their kid/baby. I'm not too convinced by Proton Exora either so let's look at the other two.

VW Cross Touran is quite a decent little motor, has a funky european style and functionality (the seats can move and fold for extra space just like the Honda Jazz) and it is the first I notice to offer isofix seats (it is quite common now for cars launched in 2014 onwards). However, the one thing that everyone ask when considering a VW is "will have engine failure/DSG problem?" well this model has the same TSI engine and DSG gearbox as the effected models but it seems failures on Touran aren't as prevalent as on Golf's. One technician explained to me the problem is design and heat issue, because the DSG 7-speed is designed as a dry-clutch meaning it doesn't need fluid top-up or servicing because it is a closed system is quite good in colder environments such as in Europe but in the tropics heat is an issue and this issue is compounded by the location of the unit which is very close to the tarmac (which in tropical climates like Malaysia can get really hot) so this two issues cause the DSG failure, but since the Touran sits higher because of the raised suspension there is more airflow to cool the unit thus less breakdown.

A new Nissan Grand Livina is an okay choice. Pick the one with the 1800cc engine because you'll need the extra power, they only offer the 1600cc variant so they can under cut the price of the Toyota Wish and Honda Stream by a large margin so more people would choose the Livina. These 3 share much in common, they're about the same size, their last row although larger than the Alza isn't too comfortable for anyone taller than 160cm for long trips. Stream doesn't have two rows of aircon so the last row can get pretty hot, while the Livina and Wish has. Stream and Livina are built on a saloon car chassis thus it is more nimble and handles better, while the Wish is based on a van.

2014 Nissan Serena S-Hybrid - if space matters to you then you can consider this (I think it is an ex-show unit) you get the ride height, comfort and space of a Toyota Estima but in a much cheaper package. Maintenance wise they're about the same, don't worry about the "hybrid" in the name it is not a complicated hybrid system like in the Toyota Prius/Honda Insight, more like an regenerative energy saving and discharge system similar to Mazda's i-eloop

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I think the Persona sounds like a good deal especially now with the economy in rocky straights it is better to be more flexible and nimble financially than be burdened with a heavy car repayment each month.

I don't know about Preve, when looking at the spec and equipment offered of course it is very worth it.
However, I've been conned by Proton before so I'm cautious now about their products. Preve by design is a good car, however if Proton designers can design a good car and their manufacturing team can produce a good car it doesn't guarantee the service center teams are up to the task. Maintenance and ownership cost usually are tied to components price, you can refer to the link here for known parts price so you're more comfortable with the kind of price range required when repairing it.

For around the same price as the Preve you can also consider 2011 Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT or 2010 Nissan Sylphy 2.0 CVTC in terms of maintenance it would be around the same as the Preve as well but of course being a global car model there are many clever distributors that source for parts in other countries that are cheaper thus cheaper part prices, as opposed to Proton's close market system for Preve parts.

QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Apr 1 2015, 08:09 PM)
Hi bro, i prefer a sedan and age not >5 years. Im staying away from VW as I heard lots of complaint about it. Toyota Mark X is a good choice but its kinda old edi. about 6 y o
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2011 Toyota Mark X - i understand your concern, my first thoughts was to show you the Mark X because the slightly older model I think is a good buy dispite it's age, 1 vs 1 against a used Camry a recon/unreg Mark X usually comes out on top. However, if age is a concern then there is a newer model but it is mostly a facelift refresh as the engine/gearbox/chassis remain unchanged just tweaked and improved to adhere to newer safety/emissions regulations. I do find that this model looks abit too Sonata-ish and lost it's European look/charm. If you have the budget this is a good alternative to a Camry.

2011 Nissan Teana 2.0 and 2011 Honda Accord 2.0 share a similar fate, as explained earlier nowadays D-segmentwith 2.0 engine's nowadays are strangled with emission laws so their output isn't enough to move the heavy car around without feeling underpowered, you can tell by the amount of 2.0 D-segments in the used car market, usually they are the low spec model people would buy then trade-in for a better model later on, but people with higher spec models tend to keep their cars abit longer. So are they a good car for daily drive basis, I think they are good cars and not as underpowered as most people would argue unless you're quite demanding on the car's performance. In such cases you'll notice that Accord/Teana/Camry that have 2000cc engines are floating around 80k mark and their bigger 2400/2500cc brothers are at the 90k mark. 2011 Nissan Teana 2.5 V6 is an example of this price setup, to be considered? Well, it can be considered since this is from MUV (Nissan's used car arm similar to Toyota's Topmark which sells used cars at slightly higher price but give 1 year waranty and are certified for customer piece of mind -- yes alot of used car also says this & that but MUV backs it up in B&W). Whether it be Teana/Accord/Camry what you usually get is a big spacious car that is relatively cheap to maintain (as compared to others in it's own segment). You can also opt for 2011 Mazda 6 2.5 which is a good car, looks great and drives great. Nowdays RV also not bad, alot of people still think Mazda are expensive to maintain but if we're just talking normal maintenance not replacing alot of parts because of accident then it is around the same price range as Accord/Camry/Teana.
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Looks like this block of questions mostly revolve around C-segment cars rclxms.gif

QUOTE(PeacefulDiscord @ Apr 2 2015, 10:57 AM)
Hello to the sifus, any advice on this?

1. Brand : Any, no Proton or Perodua
2. Budget : RM70k below
3. New/Used/Unreg : Doesn't matter.
4. Specs : Doesn't matter.
5. Transmission : Both also can
6. NA or FI :  Any
7. Type : B or C-Segment.
8. Remarks : I want to switch out of a shitty Proton Satria and ride in something comfortable. Gadgets and tech are quite nice to have so that will affect my purchasing decision. Preferably something with a bit of power will also be good.
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IMHO for RM70k the best used car you can buy which has technology, good design inside-out, powerful, alot of modification potential, and won't cost a bomb to maintain would be Honda Civic FD2, sometimes you don't need to do much with it just install a nice bodykit and it would be enough (see below for more information when you decide to buy one). 2007 Honda Civic FD2 - the last of the DOHC i-VTEC Civic's the newer ones going to be quite tame unless they're a TypeR...also paddle shifters brows.gif

2007 VW Golf GTI - let's say some additional expensive on maintenance doesn't worry you but you want more power, then you can consider a Golf GTI, don't let the badge scare you the GTI's are very reliable but of course if the owner never put in the money and effort to maintain it any car would become unreliable.

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The latest Civic isn't quite as beautiful and powerful as the one it replaces but still quite nice looking car, affordable maintenance and of course good RV. While the latest Altis has better sportier looks on the outside it is still quite uncle on the inside and the way it drives, but being that they kept most of the components from the outgoing model on this one you're assured parts compatibility and cheap prices when it comes to maintenance, and of course good RV. Elantra/Cerato might have the better looks and equipment levels compared to Civic/Altis -- and also cheaper too -- but the caveat is the car isn't as fast or as frugal as their Japanese counterparts (it is much better now compared to the models before this) and if RV is high up your priority list you shouldn't consider these two.

Buying a new Sylphy isn't a good idea since it depreciates alot in the first 3 years, better buy as a used car IMHO.

2015 Mazda 3 Skyactiv - let's say you don't mind if the RV isn't as good as Honda/Toyota but isn't as disastrous as Ford/Skoda, somewhere around where the Koreans are then you can consider a Mazda 3, in terms of technology, looks, interior design, equipment level, performance, fuel consumption, etc. it beats the two Koreans to a pulp. Mazda is a brand that is moving places and if they get more cars on the road and demand more market share then RV automatically goes up and spare part prices will go down.

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Newest City is good, but don't pick the previous one it's quite a petrol drinker which is why it had such a short service time from 2009-2014, the one before it was good but it is getting abit too old as the youngest among them is either 2008/2009 built. So strike-off Honda City.

Civic you're just slightly being priced off, there are a few floating in mudah but I have my suspects about those that sell abit too low compared to everyone else not 1-2k difference but like 10k difference, either has some hidden defect or issue. So to be on the safe side stay clear from them.

Fiesta/Mazda2 are good cars, RV also not bad, parts can be on the pricier side of town but the value of these cars is a better sorted chassis for a fun drive and better equipment/technology compared to their bargain bin rivals like Vios and Almera.

2011 Nissan Sylphy and 2011 Nissan Latio are within your budget to buy but are they within your budget to keep. Both are solid reliable cars that are quite cheap to maintain but the Sylphy will be abit more expensive to maintain as you may want to use fully synthetic oil instead of mineral/semi-syn engine oils. In a nutshell, if you have abit more to spare and want some extra power when going outstation travelling then Sylphy would be a good fit, else the Latio would fit your urban driving needs just as well. Both are C-segment so no compromise on space.

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2012 Nissan Sylphy - afraid I am repeating myself too much, I think the current sweet spot for this price range is this car, it might not be very exciting to look at or drive but it certainly is value for money. No where else can you can a 2012 C-segment car for this price coupled with decently price maintenance and spare parts.

2010 Toyota Altis 1.8G - abit more expensive and abit older and abit less by 200cc....so does it still make a good arguement? Well, that depends. The Sylphy is great value for money isn't that old but can be quite ugly. The Altis does seem nicer to look at and of course older family members will approve of a Toyota anytime. They're about equal when it comes to maintenance and spares.

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Good car and probably the last DOHC i-VTEC you'll see from Honda for a long time.

Mugen RR is actually a special edition made by Mugen based on the FD2R, so there is no FD2 "mugen rr" spec. So don't get conned.
FD1 and FD2 with Mugen/TypeR/Mugen RR bodykit are quite common in the market, high-quality replica's would be made from PP plastic which is the closes to OEM ABS plastic material. Most replica's bought by cheap people would be either fiberglass (fiber) or PU, how to tell the difference? Usually high quality replica's from Japan can be fibreglass (but high quality lah not like local one go pass water puddle then break) and PP from Taiwan. These replica's are as good as original bumpers just clip on using original clips then a few screw in the original holes. Cetak rompak versions you'll see alot of extra cable-tie, rivets, etc. to hold the PU in place or the fiberglass work is molded onto the original bumper. Color differences between bumper and body is one thing usually people say can tell between ori and fake, well even with the best parts because painting on metal and plastic even with the same paint can result in slightly different hue so don't think too much about this.

Some people like to change the rims because it can put 16" - 19" rims the most common rim design is:
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2) DC5R rim
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The original rim although can fit into FD1 and FD2 aren't exactly a perfect fit because of different offset, spacers are required, thus not a good idea. There is nothing remotely good about wheel spacers. They ruin wheel bearings faster, the camber geometry will no longer be correct and the steering wheel will pull harder when turning plus tend to straighten out quicker because of the ruined camber geometry. So the extra noise they make are the least of your problems. But there will be alot of people saying better use "ori" rims than replica with correct offset the choice is yours, my preference will either be a high quality rim if you want to upgrade to bigger size or just keep the stock rims as they're made to last. Replica rims look the the original ones but only by looks and they might not be made to such a high quality standard as original/stock rims but you can get them in different colors (original FD2R/DC5R rims are white only) like grey, white, black, etc. and different sizes (original FD2R and DC5R rims are 18" only) like 16" - 19".

Just before they discontinued the FD1 and FD2 there was a special facelift where the FD1 has the same interior and accessories as the FD2 (blue leather seats, DVD player, HID lights, etc.) except it still had the 1800cc engine, some sellers might cheat you say it is an FD2 to sell at higher price, becareful soalways refer to and inspect the car card. This is exactly what I am talking about it is clearly the FD1 Special Edition but the seller is claiming it is an FD2, one look at the engine bay already know. Now this is a real FD2 engine bay, look at the difference.

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 15 2015, 04:13 AM)

I guess it is okay since our JPJ doesn't care about environmental impact.
However if fuel consumption and engine efficiency is a concern then you could always opt for a Civic EF
will it be easier to maintain compared to the toyota le? how about the parts?

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