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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V2), ASK HERE for recommendation.

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jake16
post Apr 27 2015, 09:32 PM

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Hi guys, anyone have idea how to sell my kia sephia (2000)? Gonna change car soon, i know this car got no price, but do u guys suggest me sell to car dealer or try find someone else to buy? I think not much difference right?

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Oh ya, what is the suggested price (estimate) ya? Everything is good jz minor scratch on body.

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post Apr 28 2015, 10:19 AM

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Hi Sifu, was thinking to change my old car and budget ard 50k. So far looking at 2012 Sylphy and Forte. Can anyone giv some opinion which one better and share the pro & cons? Thanks in advance
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post Apr 28 2015, 12:27 PM

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Hi. I have this question.
Can i have a loan for car with my basic salary 1.1k not included commis??
im thinking of the get 4wd..
if no,is there any way??
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post Apr 28 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Apr 27 2015, 03:47 PM)
1. Brand : SLK200 2005
2. Budget : 100K (Loan-if acceptable)
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Sport
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : 2 seater
8. Remarks : Would this be a good grab as already 10 yrs old than current price is at affordable range. Than, cost of maintenance etc? Ya about loan, 10 yrs old car still possible to get loan? Even interest rate?
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ngam ngam 10 years old should still be able to get loan, if you wanna buy a 2005 car in 2016 might be a problem.

you can check the rates at ringgitplus.com

QUOTE(jake16 @ Apr 27 2015, 09:32 PM)
Hi guys, anyone have idea how to sell my kia sephia (2000)? Gonna change car soon, i know this car got no price, but do u guys suggest me sell to car dealer or try find someone else to buy? I think not much difference right?

Thank you
Oh ya, what is the suggested price (estimate) ya? Everything is good jz minor scratch on body.
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Check what is your insured sum and then go online and see what is the offered/asking price for a similar model to your car. You can refer to mudah/oto/carlist/motortrader/etc. just did a quick search on mudah the prices range from 5-8k.

If you sell to a car dealer or trade-in you're not going to get much, probably 3-5k only.

Selling it yourself isn't that hard, since your car is old and cheap already it can be quite simple to sell. The buyer give you cash is the easiest, after that just go any JPJ to change name, then when you buy new car just transfer the insurance from your old car, the buyer will have to buy new insurance.

Things to do to add value to your car before selling.

Scratches - buy a bottle of polish, add some elbow grease, you should be able to restore the paint work somewhat.
Tar marks - same as above
Paintwork - for free you can polish your whole car and wax it back, usually unless it is in very terrible condition this should restore it.
Wipers - replace worn old ones with new ones, i was quite surprised the rm8 wipers from Mr. Diy are pretty good, u can buy those.
Leather - you can buy a can of leather care to restore your leather seats

among other things....

QUOTE(JW3333 @ Apr 28 2015, 10:19 AM)
Hi Sifu, was thinking to change my old car and budget ard 50k. So far looking at 2012 Sylphy and Forte. Can anyone giv some opinion which one better and share the pro & cons? Thanks in advance
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Sylphy is a good choice as you can read from my comments above. Since you're upgrading from an old car you should look for something which isn't too old so 2011/2012 Sylphy would do nicely.

Forte, I'm not too sure. I am still abit skeptical about them Korean cars for the long term. It seems to be a well designed car with good kit, however ownership issues relate to other things as well like ease of service, price/availability of spare parts, etc.

2006 Mitsubishi Lancer GLX - is a very cheap and good option, I would recommend this if people in a pinch for budget but want a decent car below 30k, but it would be 10 years old soon. So I don't think you should consider this. But Proton Inspira is a good alternative, I think you can even get a 2013 model within your budget.

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post Apr 28 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 28 2015, 12:31 PM)
ngam ngam 10 years old should still be able to get loan, if you wanna buy a 2005 car in 2016 might be a problem.
Thanks sifu for reply, how about question as below:

1.) Would this be a good grab as already 10 yrs old than current price is at affordable range. Than, cost of maintenance etc?
2.) From ringgit plus, seems like affin bank giving the lowest car loan in market. How's their service? Good?

Side question: Tayaria / Kool Aire @ Glenmarie... their service is good, how about price ya?

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post Apr 28 2015, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Apr 28 2015, 12:39 PM)
Thanks sifu for reply, how about question as below:

1.) Would this be a good grab as already 10 yrs old than current price is at affordable range. Than, cost of maintenance etc?
2.) From ringgit plus, seems like affin bank giving the lowest car loan in market. How's their service? Good?

Side question: Tayaria / Kool Aire @ Glenmarie... their service is good, how about price ya?
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1) They're pretty rare. I don't think maintenance would be on the thrifty side sweat.gif

2) Not too sure about that never had a loan with Affin Bank before, but car loan services are pretty standard, submit documents and await approval. Nothing much extra. As long as there are many branches so easier for you to do the repayments. But just in case at least find a pretty loan officer so you keep going to see her also worth your time drool.gif

3) Yea, the boss is a nice guy. Just look for Kelvin. Price wise is good too. He won't push or recommend you something which you cannot afford. There was a time my aircon kaput, cost over 800 to repair, told him I can only pay 400 first then another 400 month end, he also agree.
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post Apr 28 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 28 2015, 12:53 PM)
1) They're pretty rare. I don't think maintenance would be on the thrifty side  sweat.gif

2) Not too sure about that never had a loan with Affin Bank before, but car loan services are pretty standard, submit documents and await approval. Nothing much extra. As long as there are many branches so easier for you to do the repayments. But just in case at least find a pretty loan officer so you keep going to see her also worth your time  drool.gif

3) Yea, the boss is a nice guy. Just look for Kelvin. Price wise is good too. He won't push or recommend you something which you cannot afford. There was a time my aircon kaput, cost over 800 to repair, told him I can only pay 400 first then another 400 month end, he also agree.
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Good to hear for sharing good mechanic.

Errr... so maintenance quite costly ya... haha
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post Apr 28 2015, 02:28 PM

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If you know the person using that car...he or she use very nice...
take a very good care....then BETTER go for second hand car....
First owner already absorb the huge depreciation...

If you did not found any GOOD car...better go for new car...
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post Apr 28 2015, 04:29 PM

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Regarding Sylphy, any issue on CVT engine/gearbox? As saw a lot of complaint from others forum. A bit worry if later need to spend more money to repair it if get a used car...
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(JW3333 @ Apr 28 2015, 04:29 PM)
Regarding Sylphy, any issue on CVT engine/gearbox? As saw a lot of complaint from others forum. A bit worry if later need to spend more money to repair it if get a used car...
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I thought only Teana got this problem? Apparently the gearbox need to replace once it reach 4-5 years.
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post Apr 29 2015, 11:00 AM

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1. Brand : toyota vios/altis
2. Budget : 30k~35k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used 06'~08"
4. Specs : Sport
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : E or G
8. Remarks : milleage around 100k

still cant deciding which one to get laugh.gif . Are KL 2nd car safe to buy? i scare of flood car sweat.gif
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post Apr 29 2015, 11:22 AM

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am thinking to get a (2011-2013) used car. Either Inspira 2.0 or Accord/Sonata 2.0. Budget 50-90K. Am 6ft 4 tall so front/rear legroom is important and will use the car at least 8 years. Currently using waja for 10 years. Any comments ?

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post Apr 29 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(MiseriGhost @ Apr 28 2015, 12:27 PM)
Hi. I have this question.
Can i have a loan for car with my basic salary 1.1k not included commis??
im thinking of the get 4wd..
if no,is there any way??
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Generally for a loan to be approved the bank will evaluate you base on your net income which is your gross salary minus commitment.
Usually banks can check your commitments via loans with other banks but that is about it, if you pay alot of things via cash the banks can't trace thus won't take into account, e.g.
1000 salary no commitment then bank will base on 1000
2000 salary with 500 housing loan then bank will base on 1500
2000 salary with 500 room rental the bank will base on 2000 because rental is cash base they cannot track

if you find yourself having difficulty getting your loan approved then you need someone as a guarantor like your parents (better if they are working, if retired will be abit more difficult in terms of documentation)

generally banks will approve if your net salary is able to cover two months repayment, e.g.

RM34k loan x 3.5% interest rate x 5 years = 599
RM34k loan x 3.5% interest rate x 7 years = 453

so 7 years is more likely they approve.

QUOTE(OldKidz @ Apr 28 2015, 01:47 PM)
Good to hear for sharing good mechanic.
Errr... so maintenance quite costly ya... haha
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Yes, I think so.
If kept as 2nd/weekend car should be okay.
Daily drive I don't encourage.
Japanese make sports coupe usually would be a better option for a daily drive.

If you like to be in a coupe then do check out the cars below brows.gif

2008 BMW 120i - usually i see sellers having the 118 which is fine but you get more kit and power in the 120 plus the engine is similar to the 320 thus compatible parts always means lower prices for parts, however when i say lower price for parts don't go thinking it is going to be cheap to keep like a kancil it is a BMW afterall so eventhough it is an older model with R&D amortized the prices of parts are decently priced but still premium. Think of the price range as somewhere between a Mazda3 and Mazda6 in terms of part prices -- especially for big ticket items however routine service parts are cheap.

2005 BMW 320ci - okay so the car above is abit fugly and expensive. Then how about consider this one? Isn't a sports hatch as the one above it is a true coupe. Just as nice and of course just as rare so you'll still get a glance or two when you roll up in one eventhough it is a 10 year old model. This is the last chance for this model (after this over 10 years kenot loan) and at 48k it is worth considering as you get a coupe body, good looks, good engine which is shared with the regular 4 door 3-series thus parts are cheaper to obtain.

2007 BMW 323ci - sitting somewhere between the two above in terms of price and year, I consider this a good buy, might consider it myself. This coupe from from the e92 generation just before the current f30 generation, infact I think the f30's were inspired alot by this model as the front and back end do have similar looks. So you know what that means right? Common engine and gearbox platform means cheaper parts and the exterior looks that still look fresh now, especially since it is so rare.

QUOTE(JW3333 @ Apr 28 2015, 04:29 PM)
Regarding Sylphy, any issue on CVT engine/gearbox? As saw a lot of complaint from others forum. A bit worry if later need to spend more money to repair it if get a used car...
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Thanks for bringing this up.
I did some checking and found THIS very informative article. It seems that the CVT overheats if throttled too much which leads to premature death of the gearbox. It seems the current models have fixed this issue but a large proportion of the cars in used car dealers still suffer from this issue. The fix was adding an oil cooler, I don't have the numbers yet for workshops cost to install this but found someone in LYN selling it not too expensive.

Well, if you do drive spiritedly I guess it is a no go for Sylphy. Gotta think up of an alternative......

2011 Honda Insight - a value for money buy would be this hybrid since it will help you save fuel and isn't too old. With the tax laws as it is we will probably not see a replacement for the Insight any time soon thus it won't readily get "dinosaured" like more mainstream models as City or Jazz. However, a caveat is "according to people" it is a ticking time bomb with a CVT gearbox that can explode anytime and also a Hybrid battery and trasmission system that can fail anytime. People fearing that have caused the RV for this model to plummet like a rock which is why it is so cheap.

2011 Honda City - of course a more traditional car with more traditional setup might suit you if you want to play it safe, however this model is widely known to be not so frugal when it comes to fuel consumption. However, both cars are Honda's so picking either one would be a good choice as maintenance wise they aren't really that expensive.

QUOTE(alexchew_2020 @ Apr 29 2015, 11:00 AM)
1. Brand : toyota vios/altis
2. Budget : 30k~35k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used 06'~08"
4. Specs : Sport
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : E or G
8. Remarks : milleage around 100k
still cant deciding which one to get laugh.gif .  Are KL 2nd car safe to buy? i scare of flood car sweat.gif
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Signs to spot a flood damage car

With that budget you can also consider this car.

2006 Mitsubishi Lancer GLX - this is the import only model which Mitsubishi Malaysia sold for sometime, perhaps it wasn't a good bargain as a new car because there were better cars at this price point but as a used car less than 30k for a Japanese CBU car, it makes you have a nice headache. They're pretty cheap to run and is a C-segment as you wanted, I think they look better than the Altis -- but you'd probably find that the Altis is cheaper to maintain.

QUOTE(culain99 @ Apr 29 2015, 11:22 AM)
am thinking to get a (2011-2013) used car. Either Inspira 2.0 or Accord/Sonata 2.0. Budget 50-90K. Am 6ft 4 tall so front/rear legroom is important and will use the car at least 8 years. Currently using waja for 10 years. Any comments ?
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For 50-90k, why not up the budget abit and buy something like the HRV?
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Mitsubishi i heard fuel consume is higher and i think spare parts also expensive. lol...

thinking to increase budget to 40k blush.gif
Wanna ask who here drive 08 vios the dugong type?

does the G spec got GPS navigator on the touch screen player? i see E type only give ordinary cd player.
G type 4 disc brake, how about E type also 4 disc brake or just 2?

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post Apr 30 2015, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 29 2015, 06:15 PM)

2008 BMW 120i - usually i see sellers having the 118 which is fine but you get more kit and power in the 120 plus the engine is similar to the 320 thus compatible parts always means lower prices for parts, however when i say lower price for parts don't go thinking it is going to be cheap to keep like a kancil it is a BMW afterall so eventhough it is an older model with R&D amortized the prices of parts are decently priced but still premium. Think of the price range as somewhere between a Mazda3 and Mazda6 in terms of part prices -- especially for big ticket items however routine service parts are cheap.

2005 BMW 320ci - okay so the car above is abit fugly and expensive. Then how about consider this one? Isn't a sports hatch as the one above it is a true coupe. Just as nice and of course just as rare so you'll still get a glance or two when you roll up in one eventhough it is a 10 year old model. This is the last chance for this model (after this over 10 years kenot loan) and at 48k it is worth considering as you get a coupe body, good looks, good engine which is shared with the regular 4 door 3-series thus parts are cheaper to obtain.

2007 BMW 323ci - sitting somewhere between the two above in terms of price and year, I consider this a good buy, might consider it myself. This coupe from from the e92 generation just before the current f30 generation, infact I think the f30's were inspired alot by this model as the front and back end do have similar looks. So you know what that means right? Common engine and gearbox platform means cheaper parts and the exterior looks that still look fresh now, especially since it is so rare.
Thanks for the suggestion....personally I don't like 1 series of BMW. The 323 looks delicious tho.

Btw how about this 2007 Lexus IS250, 2008 BMW 523i, 2007 BMW 730i, would it be a good grab?

2007 Lexus IS250


2008 BMW 523i


2007 BMW 730i

Cheers.

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 27 2015, 06:12 PM)
They're good cars if you only consider the performance side of things but when you consider age, loan capability, spare parts and maintenance cost you then have a more rounded idea of how much budget you really need to own one. I mean if RM88k can buy a sports car without drawbacks everyone will be driving around in one and not a boring box like a Vios.  laugh.gif

The few I chosen for you are newer, more fuel economical for their power output and easier time getting them serviced (higher reliability).

If you don't mind 4 doors the Altezza is a great car with alot of potential, get the one with the BEAMS engine.
is Maxda RX8 reliable to be drive nowadays?
seems like the price already drop kaw2..
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QUOTE(zikre2003 @ Apr 30 2015, 09:48 AM)
is Maxda RX8 reliable to be drive nowadays?
seems like the price already drop kaw2..
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Also noticed that, but think main issue is about the rotary engine... Master Sifu Zenix can best advice. haha
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Any used cars within RM2k-4k range?
Anything that can still be driven, that is. not missing engines and all..
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I do have a friend that has a used proton tiara for sale.

Have not seen the car personally but from what I understand, 4 new tyres, and fresh coat of paint on the car.

Wants to dispose it as his parents no longer wants to drive the car.

It's old btw but he's selling it at RM2.5K.
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 1 2015, 08:34 PM)
Any used cars within RM2k-4k range?
Anything that can still be driven, that is. not missing engines and all..
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try search for Proton Wira , 1996-1999 , you can get around 3k and above.


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