Hi, I am IAM program coordinator at MC Orange Institute. We will be having our first intake in August, www.julianconsultinggroup.com

Well, most fresh graduate will ask me, how much should I quote in my salary?

I reply in this way,

RM 1500-1800 before 25 YO
RM 1900-3000 before 30 YO
RM 3000-5000 after 30 YO

But, you need to justify what is yor qualification and what kind of skills do you have. Usually, employer will judge based on one on one skills that you have. Like if you have computer skills, I give you RM200, if you know how to negotiate, add another RM200 so on and so forth.

You can prepare a list foryourself as well.

is that right?? lolzz but well maybe its the market price lo...but if you ask me....be confident in yourself and ask for what you think you deserve....like me, i'm not even a graduate yet, cause waiting for results that time, and i'm being offered at least 2k + for my job lolz.... but i didn't think that was ver y promising, so i went for a basic + huge amount of commision job ^^ but thats juz me

To be honest, I think our entire salary structure should be re-structured again to suit the current economic state of our country.

Else, then we need to live a prudent life.

I think our salary or earning power is not fix with our age.

most of us earning more than 3k before 25 YO.

lol ... yes, salary fix by company budget 1 ...

for boss, they all wish to hire those people that 'know' everything in cheap price so they can bao san bao hoi ...

example i saw a programmer's advertisement with those criteria

proficient in c/c++ is a must...
knowledge in java and .net is preferable....
knowlwege in web design also is preferable .....

This post has been edited by Ken: Jun 29 2006, 11:26 AM

best way is to do a full time job + part time business(not MLM). then no need to be so stress relying solely on the job for survival.

Agreed. Most of YOU earn more than 3K before 25YO except me hehehe but seriously:

I assume that relevant experience is the guideline to decide the salary, but if you talk about age, younger crowd esp. fresh grad tend to be more eager and are more open to innovation. Thats how I got *tricked* into my current job too, the promise of being allowed to innovate.

Asking salary is very subjective, most companies oredi have a set budget no matter what ur asking price is. Its not often that the hiring department (e.g. IT) can tell HR to offer beyond their salary scale or make exceptions.

If ur a fresh grad, go for the challenge. If you get easy job as first job later damn suffer...

me thinks:
RM 1800-2800 before 25 YO
RM 2800-5000 before 30 YO
RM 5000-10000 after 30 YO

where got so much oh?? i just fresh grad...probabation rm1.8k. do u think it is ok? upon confirmation, just add rm200. this year no increment as i just joined the company..it is so less, do u agree? can anyone teach me how to negotiate with boss on salary?

dude, RM1.8k if before the RM0.30 petrol should be alright....but now should RM2k already...to counter all those high price...

u must pray hard next year the petrol wont make it RM2.5 a liter...else
RM7 for a normal lunch

how to negotiate since u already sign the agreement rite?

dun spoil the market price....
everything oso increase, salary must increase oso, else eat sh*t lor..

Hehe is that RM or RPM? Fair enuf lah I agree too...

The going is very tough right now with all the increasing expenses. Most companies also gonna transfer the increase to consumers as well as their own staff also - i.e. making tougher appraisals, less welfare and all sigh...

haha u made decision too fast, but dont even think of negotiating ur salary with your boss, you might juz lose your job and i believe you wont have the courage to speak up to your boss bout ur salary kakakaa...either you leave or you accept...choose 1.. ^^ i chose to go on sales, higher return if you work hard... you determine how much u want to earn ^^

I think this julian person is dicking around. He has been told many times he's not allowed to advertise on the forum, yet he still does it.

dude, pls take this personally, u're spoiling the employees market u know that? ppl like u offer to work for that price, i mean i agree with Mr. Boltonman, b4 petrol hike is OK, but now.....

its also not good for u, but looking on the bright(realli) side, u've got yourself a job bette then none, if u negotiated u could get at least 200 more, but let the bygone b bygone......its not the end of the world pls survey the market price b4 u agree nextime:sweat:

when they want u its all negotiable, unless they dun give a f**k who they hire, then i dun see u hav any prospects there, jz step on them n move on (aka stepping stone)

also, wish u good luck in your future career

This post has been edited by toda6866: Jun 30 2006, 10:41 AM

To be fair I don't believe they WANT to take low salary, sometimes its the situation where they oredi 3 months no rice to eat, have to get a job, or the employer promise all sorts of things and you believe the bugger, and such.

On the other hand where got ppl just join and ask for raise one???!!! Thats a sure way to get blacklisted...

Izzit? No wonder post oredi then disappear lah...

don't so fast make judgement..
my case is same as your one..
starting salary only 1.8k.. probabation 6 months, no increase salary after probabation..
salary review based on yearly performance..

and i thought i'll be stucked at 1.8k for a year..
it took 8 months til they confirmed me, and i got raised for RM200..

i was a fresh grads last year.. and my target is only 1.8k (thz god the job also gave me 1.8k)..
i don't know what's the starting salary now.. perhaps 1.8k is maybe too low..
cause i found that without car and house, i still cannot save money "
maybe i also should talk to my boss to increase my salary..

If I'm an investor and wanting to invest a plant in Malaysia and I see you people asking 5 K salary, I'll be looking elsewhere like China or India

This is definitely not a very correct statement, investor will have to worry about IP when they setup a plant in China. Chinese are very good in mimicking the original products and sell in cheap price. That's also the reason why you won't see big companies like Intel, AMD are going to setup a wafer fab there.

Although your point is a well known fact, still China has become an investment pit and India is not far behind. Where is Malaysia sitting ? Malaysia still can't come up with revolutionary ideas, no patents and technical skill. If we cannot stay competitive in terms of cost, times will be bad. Singapore has already move to R&D and less on manufacturing. Malaysia is suffering from brain drain and increasing cost.

Normally who start their career in mnc will get that price and starting pay is rm2.5k.


I guess you're working in local SMI rite ?
Just discuss with your boss when you feel you have holding something important and can negotiate with them and it is also depends on thier budget. Or just hop to mnc.

Some of the lousy company didnt count like that. They don't care inflasi or all the price is increase.... but thier budget will never increase. Most of the local SMI still paying RM1.8k for fresh gradute.

No matter how much we complain, the cost of living will definitely soon overtake our income. I believe that the income gap will increase as well to two extremes.

The rich will become richer and the poor will become poorer.

lol. even rm3k is not enuff.

http://printf.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/are...h-for-a-family/

that's why only marry when you are financial ready .... dun pandai pandai go form a family without proper financial planning....

I guess it really depends on your lifestyle. There are many methods to make your RM3k stretch quite a bit.