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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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post Sep 21 2015, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Sep 19 2015, 11:13 PM)
Brother thank for your advice ,base on experience if maintain rpm by 2.5k will pretty save patrol
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thats true bro, i usually aim 2k rpm for 80kph hovering. well, if you driving auto FL, try observe whether is there any whining sound when you driving 90kph, by then the rpm was around 2.5k rpm, the whining sound as i mention is something similiar to the sound when the aircraft pick up for takeoff (the high pitch noise). I observe it when it's new, recently not much chance trying 90kph so no idea it's still there, but still (touch wood), the gearbox is functioning well. guess is some resonance within the gearbox maybe....
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post Sep 21 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Sep 21 2015, 09:05 AM)
Bro, would the high pitch sound come from speaker? i encounter the similar sound on my myvi but after add in VS in head unit no more pitch sound already
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hmmm.... unsure to be honest, IIRC i do switch off the radio and purposely slowly increase the speed from 80kph to 90kph, and then the sound comes, when i have the chance then i take the cap ayam VS cum voltmeter and plug it into the 12V AUX socket, to see whether any difference. now the tyre is getting old (harden) and roars like nobody's business when it passes rougher road surface. Maybe this able to cover up the whining noise (and this explainas why the noise is not so obvious now.... biggrin.gif )
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Sep 21 2015, 10:33 AM)
mcam like saga flx
got aeroplane sound when reach certain speed
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probably the IAFM air flow hissing? i have a saga blm at home, manual, it is quite obvious when it is in 5th gear and the rpm is around 2.5k rpm (yea, another 2.5k rpm). the sound is something similiar to turbo whining hence i think maybe it is due to the IAFM, or maybe another electronic interference case.... not sure, this whining only come when the rpm around 2.5k and light foot, if i slam on the throttle, no whining anymore.
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post Sep 22 2015, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Sep 21 2015, 05:10 PM)
mostly ya..sound from IAFM..i like the sound but kinda dont like CVT reverse sound abit too loud
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hmmm... alza reverse is ok, at least is less noisy compare to manual myvi.
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post Sep 22 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Sep 22 2015, 08:48 AM)
ohh...interesting..myvi manual noisy as saga flx cvt??
1st time hear
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nope, just the reverse sound a bit annoying, other driving is ok. i think myvi insulation is comparatively better than saga. my house have saga BLM and myvi, now an alza, so i'm pretty much know how each car fare against each other from many perspective. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 23 2015, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(iamadrianlee @ Sep 23 2015, 08:15 AM)
Anyone ever experienced the door automatically unlocking right after locking it with the stock alarm. The problem only started yesterday when I locked the door using the key alarm (one beep) it immediately beep twice and the doors unlocked. Happened 7-8 times before the doors remained locked. This is still happening today.
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try another remote and see.... sometimes it could be due to your remote.
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Sep 29 2015, 11:31 PM)
I see, becoz p2 sc using the green one or is it becoz dont have stock for alza, they put myvi filter. Dunno pre install using which one, didnt check
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bro, green one usually aftermarket parts in SC (not cheap also), the pre install ones is same as yours (roof alike). I think the size is not same for myvi and alza. but honestly i kinda skeptical on the green colour pollen filter, as the holes are so big even i can see things through the filter.


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post Oct 3 2015, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Oct 3 2015, 10:09 AM)
With no abs to assist you, if got extra budget, change to better tyre, silverstone m5 didnt grip well, especially braking in wet condition
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and the tyre is not well balanced, meaning you could have a tyre that is heavier than another fitted, if it's fitted same side front and rear it won't give you headache, if it fitted at different side i.e left and right, you gonna end up like misalignment.
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post Oct 4 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 3 2015, 08:53 PM)
U did rebalancing on new car
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i went to do tyre rotation and alignment checking, alignment is OK, just off a lil bit. After rotate the tyre, the steering veer to one side, then change back to old location, problem solved. tyre man say tyre weight not balanced.
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post Oct 5 2015, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 5 2015, 02:07 PM)
some time foreign worker work and local QC cant be trusted. since alza was launch many years until now but some the old issue still not fully settle yet if oversea sure kenal sue already
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well, it's tyre problem so perodua can easily walk away with it. in malaysia we don't have strong consumer association and NGO body like in other countries. Consumer in Malaysia is simply too easy to be ripped off. Well, local QC mentality is ok ok, ok la.... cincai ok adi.... issue come, "macam ni mia la...."

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post Oct 5 2015, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:24 PM)
Sometimes not we not support local manufacturer. In view Hyundai and proton start at the same year but now.....2 differ too far one is global brand while one still local people force to buy brand if put it in same price i think more will go for oversea brand. Perodua proton is time you to wake up and listening on customer complaint
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one of the reason on why car are so expensive in malaysia is due to the high margin by the car company, imagine they can easily slash a few Ks off on the RRP without hurting their income. a good example is Honda Grace in Japan and Honda City in Malaysia, Japan - 1.5 direct injection, top of the line, 4WD, RM78K by exchange rate; City Malaysia, 1.5 port injection, 2WD, Langkawi, selling for RM76K. Something not right, some math will tell the answer.

ofcoz, not to forget about the excise duty on the car as well, good thing when it is setup initially (to bring up local automotive), but what we see now it's not really helping. some party simply taking this as the advantage thus make the build quality drop so much.

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post Oct 7 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 6 2015, 01:42 PM)
with the same chasis with Alza, Toyota Passo Sette and Boon Luminas has a total of 6 SRS airbags, vehicle stability control (VSC), traction control, Dynamic Support Headrests which reduce the risk of rear-end collision whiplash, and finally ABS brakes.

The interior is much more better and cheaper if you convert to RM
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Yes, this explains one of the root cause is higher profit margin the auto company is having. Without any branding bias, i felt that Proton is more sincere by giving back the consumer the value by having continuous price down on their product, Perodua comparatively is more stingy, they value engineered your car, and the selling price the same. But still, Perodua repo is better than Proton, build quality, sometimes (or most of the time even maybe all the time) service is cheaper compare to Proton as well. No means of picking up any brand fight as this is my personal opinion, my house have 1 myvi, 1 alza FL and 1 Saga BLM, hence i kinda like able to compare these 3 cars in terms of many aspects.

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post Oct 7 2015, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 7 2015, 01:56 PM)
if compare proton with perodua perhaps proton is paying more on R & D cost, as perodua is clone car from daithasu, sharing chassis and technology. Perodua should paid more attention on car comfortable and safety features. As if you notice there is an accident crash to Alza back, sure Alza gone. The support only concentrated to the front chassis. The 4 star only apply to font while if crash from behind will be -4 star. No doubt if compare other model Alza still the cheapest but that mostly due to import duty. For similar class Honda BRV almost the same price with Alza in indonesia.

If you want to be famous, make it famous in your country before step out of Malaysia
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problem is even Proton is spending more on R&D, yet the selling price of Proton is comparatively lower than Perodua, take example Iriz & Myvi 1.5 Adv, 59K (Iriz) vs 54K (myvi) for labuan pricing, you pay RM5k more you get more airbags & VSA, i doubt all these stuffs will "only" cost RM5K. Yes, i agree to your point that Perodua should focus more on vehicle comfort and safety, however Perodua cars are more comfort than Proton cars, insulation is better, but handling sucks. Safety wise Perodua is not good enough compare to Proton. I wonder they have any capability to improve on the safety of the car to be on par with Proton's as Perodua is more focus on assembly works rather than ground up R&D, perhaps they need to get Daihatsu permission before making changes to the car? brows.gif

Well about Alza, so far there's no competitor able to compete with it if you looking at the total package, fuel saving + good insulation (malaysian likes good insulation) + easy to handle + not pricey. Livina is way too pricey, Avanza could be near but still the price is too faraway, Exora is good but the branding and the fuel economy wasn't that good, and it's harder to handle (it's more bulky than Alza).
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post Oct 10 2015, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 9 2015, 11:55 PM)
Maybe alza air cond not cool as myvi
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i personally felt that alza aircon is colder than my 1st gen myvi.
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post Oct 10 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Oct 10 2015, 09:58 AM)
4 months...u start engine and go look at the aircond drier at the front see the "hole" if have bubbles. Or do you hear gas sound...sssssshhheeeee in the car when compressor start kicks in?

If yes, might have gas leakage, go have it check...4 month under warranty.
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and can send for a check by aircond specialist
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post Oct 11 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 11 2015, 11:40 AM)
If ok no bubble at the hole?
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yep, and the bubble was like the "buih air liur". i not sure what the bubble related to but it indicate something presence in the system.
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post Oct 12 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:52 PM)
Any one know the door light bulb length is how many MM?
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ain't that a standard size to govern that, refer to the owners manual and see, should have been stated in there, else, cabut the ones in your car and pass it to the spare part shop fella.
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post Oct 13 2015, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(khfoo88 @ Oct 13 2015, 08:42 AM)
hard book no sizes for room light bulb, i got one time change the bulb for my old car, suddenly short circuit and fuse blow
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i see... i usually focus on the headlight bulb size, no pay attention to it, so far i have no issues with room light for any of the cars in my house so i have no idea on the size. blush.gif ouch, a bulb can short circuit the fuse, something wrong i think?
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post Oct 14 2015, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ewe_chai @ Oct 14 2015, 05:28 PM)
It represent air o moisture inside. It'll have when refrigeration system is leaking or the system is not properly vacumn. New car refrigeration system should not have bubble supposedly.
If your ac been service before by refrigeration guy, it'll likely have bubble after that as most of them never vacumn o evacuate the refrigeration system properly.
They would just vacumn it for less than half hour without using any gauge to gauge the system vacumn level.
Most of them just agak agak by referring to manifold gauge.
It may still cold but moisture inside refrigeration system tend to reduce your compressor life span.
My advice is don't service your aircond system like top up gas o open up for servicing if no problem.
Modern car now come with cabin filter to prevent cooling coil into dirty.
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thanks for the explanation bro.... yea, usually typical malaysia mentality will get the job done probably 70-80%. but you gotta change the receiver/drier periodically also. coz if it got stuck (or to say the desiccant are filled up with moisture").
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post Oct 15 2015, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(ewe_chai @ Oct 15 2015, 09:20 PM)
Trust me, no need to replace the filter/drier oso if no problem. It will more problem only.
You will know why if you are from refrigeration system field.
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i see.... thanks for enlighten me bro. rclxms.gif

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