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post Feb 17 2014, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(glamour @ Feb 17 2014, 08:16 AM)
No budget. As long is cool and don't give much problem
Cause now got so many brand in the market
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My bedroom(1.5HP) already used for 8 years while my living already 3 years(2HP)
All are Panasonic, nothing fancy on the functions, just the most basic type.
For this type, the part that will fail is the capacitor if you set it such that it will cut in cut out regularly. Now I don't really run them for the whole night, I just run them for 2-4 hours max, so it will be on constant load till it stops.
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QUOTE(glamour @ Feb 17 2014, 08:16 AM)
No budget. As long is cool and don't give much problem
Cause now got so many brand in the market
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Compare brands from cooling faster then go for ME inverter as your choice.

I'm not salesman, but I'm really tried many brands before, so I was prefer or suggestion only.

Hitachi DC inverter a bit slower cold down and slightly noise airflow but so far no issue.

ME = Mitsubishi Electric
DC inverter really impressive of confort air & cooling fast & quiet at all, from 21db only.
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post Feb 17 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 08:31 AM)
Compare brands from cooling faster then go for ME inverter as your choice.

I'm not salesman, but I'm really tried many brands before, so I was prefer or suggestion only.

Hitachi DC inverter a bit slower cold down and slightly noise airflow but so far no issue.

ME = Mitsubishi Electric
DC inverter really impressive of confort air & cooling fast & quiet at all, from 21db only.
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif Peple already said "non-inverter", don't be hard selling or unless you are going to pay the difference, then is ok. whistling.gif
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post Feb 17 2014, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 17 2014, 08:35 AM)
shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif Peple already said "non-inverter", don't be hard selling or unless you are going to pay the difference, then is ok. whistling.gif
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Unless they going to change gas from R22 instead of R410a to be solving cooling faster than traditional R22 now.

For me I don't mind to pay higher as one stop painful.

If I was pay lesser to install but in future effect my operates & duration hours for more into calculating day by days.. So my life's lagi painful sad.gif
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post Feb 17 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 08:44 AM)
Unless they going to change gas from R22 instead of R410a to be solving cooling faster than traditional R22 now.

For me I don't mind to pay higher as one stop painful.

If I was pay lesser to install but in future effect my operates & duration hours for more into calculating day by days.. So my life's lagi painful sad.gif
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Don't be a chicken and try to avoid on answer my question.
As said, since you keep on boasting inverter are good, you pay the price difference for our friend to buy inverter type.
You no need to keep on saying inverter can save money which in actual it does not really. Even our moderator already come out the calculation and you never replied him but choose to keep on coming out such misleading replies. A photo from seller that says saving money on bills you boast it big, but the small words below you keep quiet. Even manufacturers can't really give an exact figure but you can?
Try to prove our moderator's statement wrong first, else stop mislead others.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 17 2014, 08:58 AM)
Don't be a chicken and try to avoid on answer my question.
As said, since you keep on boasting inverter are good, you pay the price difference for our friend to buy inverter type.
You no need to keep on saying inverter can save money which in actual it does not really. Even our moderator already come out the calculation and you never replied him but choose to keep on coming out such misleading replies. A photo from seller that says saving money on bills you boast it big, but the small words below you keep quiet. Even manufacturers can't really give an exact figure but you can?
Try to prove our moderator's statement wrong first, else stop mislead others.
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Lol..

Don't try to telling ppls you are using per day maximum at 2-4 hours max.

That your statement smile.gif)
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post Feb 17 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 09:04 AM)
Lol..

Don't try to telling ppls you are using per day maximum at 2-4 hours max.

That your statement smile.gif)
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This is a fact, not all people will use long hours, as said before, it is depending on how long we need to use.
Anyway, are you going to pay the price difference to our friend?
And guess you are old already, and forget to provide details that our moderator's statement are wrong. I'm waiting for this.
Or you already chickened out and now trying to play word games and doing personal attacks only?
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 17 2014, 09:07 AM)
This is a fact, not all people will use long hours, as said before, it is depending on how long we need to use.
Anyway, are you going to pay the price difference to our friend?
And guess you are old already, and forget to provide details that our moderator's statement are wrong. I'm waiting for this.
Or you already chickened out and now trying to play word games and doing personal attacks only?
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You would like to commended ppls reply, that's your business.

I got my suggestion without any commission here, from what my opinion of usage everyday I knew what I was replied here.

So far I affected only you guy can't accepted the real life..
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Since got good recommended for new tech and why not to try with latest tech..


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post Feb 17 2014, 09:37 AM

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i have pretty old aircond currently still working. but doing renovation right now which include new paint for entire house. When you have a "looking new" house, obviously old aircond (blower turn yellowish) is sore to your eyes. If I'm going to change to a new aircond, do i need to redo the aircond piping?

Or can i just change the blower's housing? Any shop selling the housing? i doubt there is any.

or any chemical can be used to make it look new again?

thanks ya
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Feb 17 2014, 09:37 AM)
i have pretty old aircond currently still working. but doing renovation right now which include new paint for entire house. When you have a "looking new" house, obviously old aircond (blower turn yellowish) is sore to your eyes. If I'm going to change to a new aircond, do i need to redo the aircond piping?

Or can i just change the blower's housing? Any shop selling the housing? i doubt there is any.

or any chemical can be used to make it look new again?

thanks ya
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1st do you like using aircond? Or portion only.

If very hardly switch on, can be do refurbished with DIY new paint on front cover.

For the gas piping can be reused.
Unless is totally change new.
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post Feb 17 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 09:47 AM)
1st do you like using aircond? Or portion only.

If very hardly switch on, can be do refurbished with DIY new paint on front cover.

For the gas piping can be reused.
Unless is totally change new.
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thanks for your reply.

got any kind of paint for plastic surface?
what do you mean by totally new change? in my situation, can i just replace the blower and the compressor while using the existing setup (piping)?

I'm aware of the different piping between inverter and non inverter version. But not considering inverter for now.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 09:16 AM)
You would like to commended ppls reply, that's your business.

I got my suggestion without any commission here, from what my opinion of usage everyday I knew what I was replied here.

So far I affected only you guy can't accepted the real life..
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Is just simple, show us the numbers to prove you are right. Is is really so hard for you?
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 17 2014, 12:04 PM)
Is just simple, show us the numbers to prove you are right. Is is really so hard for you?
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What numbers??

Prove me for what?
Then why not you prove yourself?

Actually I'm really hope you wake up over.

Since we all here already tried from non inverter and cannot tahan every months of bill then jamp over to inverter.

Since inverter go great why you still thinking on non inverter made like god?

For example like proton Saga BLM auto really suck fuel.
After replace with CVT to reduce higher FC.

Then why not you recommend ppls buy new FLX?
Then still thinking the 4AT made like god of BLM.

For me I can't tahan to pump higher maintenance. Rather than sold off my BLM and buy new FLX...

Everything is real life, are you agree?

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 17 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Feb 17 2014, 09:54 AM)
thanks for your reply.

got any kind of paint for plastic surface?
what do you mean by totally new change? in my situation, can i just replace the blower and the compressor while using the existing setup (piping)?

I'm aware of the different piping between inverter and non inverter version. But not considering inverter for now.
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For normal spray paint would be work.
I'm DIY before of my York aircond.
Then used back existing pipe to be save cost.

But make sure you sand paper over b4 spray.

New piping is good for new aircond,
Either R22 or R410a, but after installed back R22 may not good in future to change again for R410a.

Both gas are totally different oil inside.

Everything is just depend your own to decide.

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kimsim you mentioned before 1HP is sufficient for a 12++ft x 13++ft, about 15 square metre, so does Energy Star aircon BTU

ME 1HP inverter has about 8.8k BTU, which can cold up 300sqft of space according to the site, i believe it's more than enough for the room hmm.gif
ME 1.5HP inverter has nearly 11k, which i think it's overpower for the room, right?
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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:47 PM)
kimsim you mentioned before 1HP is sufficient for a 12++ft x 13++ft, about 15 square metre, so does Energy Star aircon BTU

ME 1HP inverter has about 8.8k BTU, which can cold up 300sqft of space according to the site, i believe it's more than enough for the room hmm.gif
ME 1.5HP inverter has nearly 11k, which i think it's overpower for the room, right?
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8800 to 11000 btu is maximum.
Don't forget inverter is runs with variable speed everyday can be self adjusted of increase or decrease BTU from minimum to full load.

Inb4 I'm also worried on my ME inverter come with 8530 btu, but after installed it is really impressive of the cold air is blow out with quiet mode too.


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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 10:54 PM)
8800 to 11000 btu is maximum.
Don't forget inverter is runs with variable speed everyday can be self adjusted of increase or decrease BTU from minimum to full load.

Inb4 I'm also worried on my ME inverter come with 8530 btu, but after installed it is really impressive of the cold air is blow out with quiet mode too.
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thanks, i saw it's 8871 Btu for 1HP model
maybe the tauke scare 1HP underpower then i go back complaint laugh.gif

i saw my uncle's house using 1 big evaporative air cooler in the living room, way colder than aircon
too bad my apartment dont have space for it, otherwise no need install aircon laugh.gif

anyway, your A/C point is standalone point or shared with other thing like water heater point/switch and light/fan switches?
because the tauke recommend me to separate it, while my contractor said no problem to combine together hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:04 PM)
thanks, i saw it's 8871 Btu for 1HP model
maybe the tauke scare 1HP underpower then i go back complaint laugh.gif

i saw my uncle's house using 1 big evaporative air cooler in the living room, way colder than aircon
too bad my apartment dont have space for it, otherwise no need install aircon laugh.gif

anyway, your A/C point is standalone point or shared with other thing like water heater point/switch and light/fan switches?
because the tauke recommend me to separate it, while my contractor said no problem to combine together hmm.gif
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all sharing from main point, but main fuse can change to C32 at lease
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 17 2014, 11:12 PM)
all sharing from main point, but main fuse can change to C32 at lease
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noted, will double check with the contractor for the C32 thing smile.gif


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