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post Jan 28 2014, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(niqkers @ Dec 30 2013, 10:44 PM)
today just bought York L series 1hp= 900 w installation. come with free gift seagull pot n steamer.

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Hi, can let me know where you bought YORK L series 1.0 hp with installation at ? i really want to know.. how come so cheap (rm900).... Tq
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post Jan 28 2014, 11:07 PM

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I am wondering too what is the best aircond deal for less maintenance and high durability long term, any good offer in setapak kuala lumpur area?

1hp x 2 units for two quite small rooms.



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post Jan 28 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(kaifahalas @ Jan 28 2014, 11:07 PM)
I am wondering too what is the best aircond deal for less maintenance and high durability long term, any good offer in setapak kuala lumpur area?

1hp x 2 units for two quite small rooms.
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Go for York or acson. Tahan lasak. Not the inverter type. The normal ones.

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post Jan 28 2014, 11:49 PM

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Go for York or acson. Tahan lasak. Not the inverter type. The normal ones.

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Tahan lasak is very important criteria because this going to be installed in the house to be rent out later.

Thanks will do some more research...



Hopefully someone will share if there is any good buy promotion CNY deals
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QUOTE(kaifahalas @ Jan 28 2014, 11:49 PM)
Tahan lasak is very important criteria because this going to be installed in the house to be rent out later.

Thanks will do some more research...
Hopefully someone will share if there is any good buy promotion CNY deals
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Wahh very lucky the tenant, rental including air cond.
Hopefully you will have a tenant that appretiate or someone who knows on how to take care of other people's property.
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post Jan 29 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(kianchun555 @ Jan 15 2014, 09:07 AM)
I do agree with you up to certain extent. However, direct dealing shall depends on the items which you are dealing with. For some home appliances like your microwave, washing machine, refridgerator, TV etc, it can be direct contact or send to the main distributor/manufacturer for warranty. However, for items like Air-Cond, it required some skills to dismantle the unit, hence, calling a distributor directly may not be the best solution.

I personally feels that, it is best to get a shop with good reputation and after sales service, of cause, sometimes their price might be slightly higher but it will save you lots of troubles when anything happened. This is similar to buying insurance product, but nowadays, consumers main concern is only focused on 1) PRICE, 2) PRICE, and 3) also PRICE.
Therefore, when problems arises, then only start to regret  rclxub.gif.
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I have to agree on this.

People generally focus on what good brand to have, what brand has better deal, what brand is good etc. but never focus on getting good installer.

While, when air-cond not function properly (leaking gas, not cold etc) time, then straight away blame xyz brand is not good.

In reality, many issue arised have high probablity due to improper installation, poor workmanship on installation, nothing to do with xyz brand or abc brand issue.

So get a good installer also a crucial factor.

From experience, common issue on installation.

1. Improper leveling on blower unit, due to poor workmanship, drill the hole sideway or not according to the position leveling intended etc.
Poor leveling will cause the water inside the blower cannot flow properly, slight of dirt blockage, water leak to outside.

2. Improper installation of compressor, causing vibration on compressor, shorten life of it.

3. Improper positioning of compressor or blower, causing poor air-circulation, resulted not cold etc.

4. Improper soldering on copper pipe, causing gas leak, air-cond not cold. <--- this I had seen in real life and even in this forum, many people blame abc brand or xyz brand, while in reality nothing to do with which brand.
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how to know which installer is good?
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post Jan 29 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Jan 29 2014, 10:38 AM)
how to know which installer is good?
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I want to know too, maybe through recommendation and word of mouth?
Also is it true it is better to find an installer that specialised in certain brand? I installed a few Panasonic units of CU-PC9MKH and it is not cold after a few weeks usage. Then complained to the manufacturer and they sent their repairman that discovered that my installer only filled the gas halfway. According to them, this Panasonic model method of filling the gas is a bit tricky and not all installer knew how to do it properly.

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Is acson good? Quality and after sales?
I was quoted for acson for normal 2.5hp with installation at rm2500. Does the price expensive?

I was quoted as well for daikin 1.5hp r22 inverter with installation at rm1800. Does it expensive?

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Jan 29 2014, 08:44 PM)
Is acson good? Quality and after sales?
I was quoted for acson for normal 2.5hp with installation at rm2500. Does the price expensive?

I was quoted as well for daikin r22 inverter with installation at rm1800. Does it expensive?
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Why normal acson is way expensive than daikin inverter? are they have the same horse power? hmm.gif
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post Feb 1 2014, 09:57 AM

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hi, i wanna know, if i only have a choice between, samsung,panasonic, sharp, hitachi, which brand should i go for? i dont have other brand around my hometown, that's the sad part.
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my in law house have samsung and sharp... and the performance & quality is below par... easily having problem within a year..
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post Feb 3 2014, 12:52 AM

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what is current price for mitsu 1hp? non inverter
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Happy CNY to all here, anyone use York inverter Y - Series.

I found it quite gooding also.
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post Feb 3 2014, 09:25 AM

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I still prefer Panasonic, already used for 8 years and still standing strong.
Anyway, any inverter type won't save money at any 1 time. If you turn on for 10 hours, then it will save you 10%
Servicing non inverter only rm100-200 while inverter type rm200-300 minimum.
Also, if everyday also exposed to long air cond hours, doctor also more happy to serve you.
Best still make sure your house is well ventilated and make a hole on top of the roof either with ventilator or sky roof. Plant more green outside.
Ceiling must be flat and not "designer" concept having angles, while it is good to see, but ventilation are very very poor. Also make cleaning harder.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 3 2014, 09:25 AM)
I still prefer Panasonic, already used for 8 years and still standing strong.
Anyway, any inverter type won't save money at any 1 time. If you turn on for 10 hours, then it will save you 10%
Servicing non inverter only rm100-200 while inverter type rm200-300 minimum.
Also, if everyday also exposed to long air cond hours, doctor also more happy to serve you.
Best still make sure your house is well ventilated and make a hole on top of the roof either with ventilator or sky roof. Plant more green outside.
Ceiling must be flat and not "designer" concept having angles, while it is good to see, but ventilation are very very poor. Also make cleaning harder.
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8 years back Panasonic or national still the best in quality control, nowadays even York or acson can be easily more durable than panasonic made in china parts.

Nobody said inverter can't saving electric bill than non inverter, also nobody can tell you not operate long hours or short hours can be save or unsave power consumption.

Anywhere you're the inverter user than you would feels than inverter won't cheat your pocket money.

And also inverter or non inverter for parts and maintenance nobody can guaranty you after warranty can be spoil or higher cost than non-inverter unit.

Buy electric items or devices is depend your luck.
Anywhere you wanna just go an buy, don't think so much, now is 2014 already.

Huat ah..
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post Feb 3 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 3 2014, 10:18 AM)
8 years back Panasonic or national still the best in quality control, nowadays even York or acson can be easily more durable than panasonic made in china parts.

Nobody said inverter can't saving electric bill than non inverter, also nobody can tell you not operate long hours or short hours can be save or unsave power consumption.

Anywhere you're the inverter user than you would feels than inverter won't cheat your pocket money.

And also inverter or non inverter for parts and maintenance nobody can guaranty you after warranty can be spoil or higher cost than non-inverter unit.

Buy electric items or devices is depend your luck.
Anywhere you wanna just go an buy, don't think so much, now is 2014 already.

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Well, my uncle's bill every month is about rm700-800, with 3 air conds turned on 24/7. Before using inverter, it is about rm800-900.
Even the air cond service man says the same. What salesman says are always too far from true, all the time.
Just the gas, operating pressure already can show you the difference.
And my second(5 years already) and third(2HP for my hall already clocked 3 years)
I choose Panasonic is because the fan are quiet, whil York can cool fast, but the noise generation are much more higher.
BTW, buying an inverter air cond is same as wasting rm1000 to safe rm1.

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 3 2014, 10:32 AM)
Well, my uncle's bill every month is about rm700-800, with 3 air conds turned on 24/7. Before using inverter, it is about rm800-900.
Even the air cond service man says the same. What salesman says are always too far from true, all the time.
Just the gas, operating pressure already can show you the difference.
And my second(5 years already) and third(2HP for my hall already clocked 3 years)
I choose Panasonic is because the fan are quiet, whil York can cool fast, but the noise generation are much more higher.
BTW, buying an inverter air cond is same as wasting rm1000 to safe rm1.
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1st you may check what is ur brand and how low of the temperature do you pre-set?

Mine is Mitsubishi electric inverter only set in min. 25c and low fan speed, my Living hall 2.5hp inverter operate from 10am to 11pm everyday on my electric bill only cost me less than Rm400 with another 2 units operate everyday over 8 hours.

Anywhere Panasonic if choose from deluxe model these still much efficient than lower end inverter.

You can compare from outdoor power consumption input watt and BTU.

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 3 2014, 01:16 PM)
1st you may check what is ur brand and how many temperature do you pre-set?

Mine is Mitsubishi inverter only set in min. 25c and low fan speed, my Living hall 2.5hp inverter operate from 10am to 11pm everyday on my electric bill only cost me less than Rm400 with another 2 units operate everyday over 8 hours.
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They set 19-20c. Set 25c with low fan speed and still getting rm400 of bill. So that's your logic on bill savings. And at 25c, air cond won't really work and will shorten the starter capacitor lifespan greatly.
Anyway, I spend rm1200 on installing ventilator on the roof top, seal all the odd angles on ceiling. The hall air cond now very seldom used. My bill only rm70-80 every month.
If calculating based on your bill, I only need 4 months to get back my rm1200 investment. Plus my lung is stronger compare last time on using long hours of air cond.

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