Like the other two thread started for my own purposes. I also need to ask this - between cycling and jogging - which is better?

I was given a pretty expensive bicycle by my cousin bro who bought a new one. My friends came around and say the bicycle that was given to me is worth ~RM3k or more, so I assume it's a good bike.

Sometimes, when I think about how my feet hurts from running, how people say it's bad for the knees, how our feet pound the ground carrying our body weight is bad for us. Is cycling really better? My group of friends cycle around Klang town like crazy, going from one housing area to another.

I know it's not those hardcore endurance training but as a cardio exercise, I think it's pretty good. I dont know how they measure but they go for ~50km every time they set out for cycling - 3 of them.

Between cycling and jogging - quite sure jogging burns more calories than having seating on our butt on a bicycle seat. But is it suitable for me who is 107kg, would jogging be bad for my feet / legs?

Please note that this thread is also for myself. 191cm, 107kg ~ obese state. At my state, am I even suitable for running?

164cm at 85kg here
Im using cycling machine
as long as sweating should be ok

Brisk walk is better for your knees. It is said that Jogging puts 3 times your weight on one knee every time you step down, imagine, if you're 107 kg thats 300 over kg on one knee, as due to gravity and your mass. So brisk walk, don't jog.

If you have an uphill gradient its an even better cardio workout.

right, if you're worried about your knees walk. not sure if cycling is better than jogging but after recovering from a knee injury my orthopedist said not to cycle but jogging and running would be fine.

maybe jogging once in a while?
coz i feel really good when jogging
or you can try nike shox? i dont know if good for knee or not but i feel good wearing it

Dont have a cycling machine... Anyway, I wanna lose weight fast, more within the next 1 - 2 months time. Then gradually for the rest of the year and finally maintain what I've achieved.

Yes yes... that's what my gf's father advised too. Brisk walking, speed walking is better, less pressure.

Huh? Recovering from knee injury, jogging is BETTER than cycling? You sure you heard right? Maybe it's because when you paddle up, your knees bend too much, that's why?

Once in a while is pointless man. I wanna lose weight so I jog / run / walk / crawl to my girlfriend house. From Tmn Chi Liung, all the way to Tmn Eng Ann in Klang. If you know how far is that... It probably might shocked you.

cant remember what he said, its been quite a few years, all i remember is him telling me not to cycle.

if you want to jog/run/walk, i'd suggest going for uphill walks first before moving on to jogging or running, build up some stamina and get your muscles used to being used more, maybe 1-2weeks, try to lose some weight before jogging and running aswell, it hurts your joints and joint injuries suck.

Cycling doesn't workout your whole body.

1 - 2 months time? Getting married?
hehehe... Anyway how much weight you intend to lose? How much do you weigh now? and your height?

My height is 191cm
My weight is 106kg
My shoe size is 11
My pants size is 38.

I intent to lose max 20kg overall.
Buff up - convert fats to muscles

In these 2 months, my realistic target is 99kg, 2 digit instead of 3. I know it's unhealthy so lose so much in so short period. No choice. Want to be able to fit in 38 loosely, currently is ngam ngam.


Update:
I just went for a walk / jog / tracking. From Klang Hosp towards the Reservoir, thru the jungle, towards Taman Rakyat, Andalas. Half way through the jungle.

Walk all the way up the reservoir, make a turn at the end, half way down, go thru jungle, got lost inside for 30 minutes. Too tired, heart about to give way, legs are sore, mosquitoes bite.

Met an old granny, asked her for directions to main road, Jln Banting. She led me out to the reservoir there where there's a lot of ppl walking up and down, she sped off - probably think I'm a robber. I didnt even get to thank her, I am shocked she is 70 runs faster than me. I'm humiliated. Now I'm thinking about suicide.

Got back home, shouted for my sister to open the door. Collapsed on the floor, breathing heavily, cold floor is good, drank tons of ice water. KO-ed. Now online forum to reply my own thread.

I am feeling pathetic and am not getting married.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Jun 26 2006, 06:43 PM

lol cheer up, it takes time. just keep working out and you'll start feeling better in a couple of weeks.

its important to be aware that your weight may not drop very quickly and you wont go down sizes instantly either, but atleast you'll feel stronger after each week.

cycling is bad for male reproductive system. Imagine 107kg sitting on it, erm, not exactly sitting, but with those thigh(assuming excess fat) rubbing on it, it's torturing for your swimmer. Even the best saddle still have risk on it. Jogging hurts your knee. Go swimming. The best calories burner, and you dont actually sweat in the pool. You'll feel warm all over your body after swimming. Then go sauna, 15 mins, it will start burning those fat. Enough to get you down by 4-5kg after that a single exercise. But that is just dehydration, plenty of water loss, and fat burned. Rather than feeling flabby on ur stomach, you feel tone all over your body, chest, back, arms, legs, waist. Jogging and cycling are carb burner, won't really burn those fat. And you only tone ur legs, and partly waist, not arms or body. especially that piece of fat below ur armpit, if you have any.

If you can maintain for 3-4 times a week for the next 2 months, you wont be doing it for losing weight, but rather enjoying it.

This post has been edited by Aurora: Jun 26 2006, 07:32 PM

ummm, you do sweat while swimming you just dont notice it because you're in a pool of water. ask a doctor if you dont believe me but you do sweat while swimming.

you lose water in the sauna, not fat.

you will lose weight all around your body when you jog or run or whatever it is you do, you just happen to have a more complete workout when you swim.

So, physical activity won't burn fat but sauna after physical activity will?

Or is it that sauna alone burns fat without physical activity?

Or is it physical activity alone burns fat but sauna helps as a catalyst to the fat burning?

Or am I being misinformed?

I think I'll be dead by the roadside if I walk as much as you. Partly because I'm a smoker...

Lol... I am trying to think positive here. I want to look and feel better, for myself or my gf. Feel better in a couple of weeks eh? I am trying to do this everyday. Even got my best friend to accompany me tomorrow in case I get lost again.

Surprisingly, my weight drops faster than normal. I will keep this thread alive or start another one regarding my diet / workout plans which I am going through everyday.


Good theory, bad for the male reproductive system. But I dont feel my thighs are all that close. I may be 107kg, you probably imagine me looking like a pig but I dont look all that fat. All the girls around me thinks I'm looking damn nice but down under those shirt, it's just fats.

Anyway, I dont have fat thighs. In fact, I have nicer legs than most women does. Somehow, genetically, I am hairless. Women thinks I shave but I dont. 9 out of 10 women who see me in my shorts will come molest my legs, the other 1 has never seen me in shorts. From what you read, you can tell I'm damn proud of them and yes I am.

Oh yea, I am looking into swimming. Just found out from my gf's friend that swimming in Shah Alam public pool requires a RM3 payment. She got all hyped up after my questions and wants to go with me but my gf wont allow it. Lolx.

Swimming is a more complete work out? Some people would argue that swimming does not burn fat as the water carries your weight. Thus, the exercise you do, swimming does not burn much fats since you dont carry your own weight like jogging. Even cycling, sitting on our butts, does not burn as much weight as jogging.

Since I cant jog for shit. Dont have the stamina. So between brisk walking / cycling / swimming - which will burn more calories? I may be overweight but I can do 20 laps in Shah Alam Club (not public pool) just last month.


I smoke some times, when there's an occassion. Well, if you think smoking is giving you so much trouble, quit it. My girlfriend was a heavy smoker, Avril Lavigne kind of girl. She quit because she love me and now she's swimming much more than I do, walking faster than I do! If she can, you can.

i found that losing fat comes in stages, first you put on weight when you start exercising which is water, then you lose a little bit of weight, which is some fat, then you put on weight again which is muscle growth, then you lose quite a bit of weight which is fat.

then you have to increase either amount or resistance and do it all over again.

iirc the biggest cause of testy/prostate issues are from the bycicle seat pressuring your "sai lou" and sweat build up, not too sure, hate cycling cant be bothered to find out.

haha hairless legs.

when you swim you're propelling your body through a dense material, your body has to work harder. its also good for those with injuries as there is minimal stress on your joints and virtually no impact-unless you bump into the pool wall, then gg.

not sure how much calories you burn when swimming but i dont burn all that much when running. i find swimming 10km is a hell of alot harder than running 10km is so i suppose swimming would burn more calories?

erm...wht abt rope jumping??

Rope jumping is good. I think it's even good for your knees, as I've read on bodybuilding.com
Still, it doesn't make too much sense to me. I'll skip, if I wanna get to sweat quickly. Maybe if I'm 30 minutes away from an appointment, and I can jog, so I quickly skip, and bathe and run out.

But about swimming, about the myth that the water carries your weight, think again.

Now, run 50 meters, at your maximum capability.

Do 1 LAP, 50 meters, freestyle or butterfly at your maximum capability too.

At the end, you'll probabbly be panting your breath out. Does running make you pant harder than swimming? I don't think sooo.....anyway I do run, before training that is. Apart from that, nah, I hate running.

Yea... guess you're right. Actually, I dont mind if my kilos add somemore provided that it's muscles and not fat. Look fit and healthy, not fat and lazy.

Bicycle will really bring that bad health effect on the penis or not? I'm not sure but I just bought a pump for my bike today. I will be doing cycling soon.

Yea, hairless leg indeed. Nicknamed 'pak cham kai' back when I was younger. On the contrary to your thoughts, I find swimming easier than running. Running puts a lot of burden (weights) on my legs. Swimming is less cause the water support our weight. Of course, I dont intend to swim 10kg.

We cant calculate distance of swimming against distance of running but if I have two hours to spare for working out, I'd go with swimming. 20 laps - 30 laps is not as painful for me as running or tracking the jungle for 2 hours.

Thought about that but since I'm too tall, I dont think there's any skipping rope for me. Neither do I want to get entangled, fall and break my nose.

I wont compare the distance but rather the time spent. You may swim a shorter length but equally amount of time with max effort. I think swimming is good, less pressure on the body.

Plus, swimming in the sea (weekend trips or holidays) is something enjoyable for me. To me, that's as close as being on another world, in the water or the sea alike.