Ahh.... 2 wrong assumption. How bout running at 10 degree C in foreign country? Do you sweat? We sweat because our body heat up, and sweat help us to cold down our body, sweat evaporate with the heat. Heat dissipate when we swim, so we dont sweat.

second thing, we burn our carb first before we get to burn our fat. The body will tend to use up all the carb before burning the fat. Actually, you can run, or cycle, then go sauna, no problem.

Swimming is a better workout that cycling. Research has show that swimming burns more calories that jogging and running. How long do you take to swim 20 laps? Time is a factor, if you swim 1 to 2 laps and rest for 5 mins, and complete your 20 laps in 2 hours, that wont help. Your body just warm up and cold down, repetitively. You need to swim with short breaks, before your body cold down, you need to start the next laps. It'll burn you down pretty fast.

Also, the muscle soreness you get from swimming is different than jogging or cycling. It feels different.

Cycling wont directly hurt our reproductive system, not by pressing directly on it, but there's a thing between our reproductive system and anus, which most of our weight sit on it during cycling. It feel sore after a long cycle, and hurt that part. It's indirectly a part of our reproductive system. Hope someone from the medical field can clarify this further

Ahh.. more misinformation from you. You claimed earlier going for sauna for 15 minutes after a swimming session will burn fat. Maybe you might want to clear that up first before shooting down Potato's argument?

Besides, it's true swimmers sweat while swimming while fully immersed in water.

http://www.swim-city.com/library.php3?id=34

I don't see what you meant by 2 wrong assumption(sic).

holy mama are you an asian????
191 cm, any way jogging is the best way to lose weight.. my pesonal traineer told me...

yes you do sweat when you run at 10'C, you'll sweat in winter too if you run. i've tried it in australia in winter, have you?

sweat is caused by either ambient heat causing your body in general to heat up OR muscle temps rising due to exertion(yes i know there are other causes but these are the most common 2), wether its cold or you're surrounded by water does not affect this.

go to any medical center, ask any doctor "do i sweat when i swim" any doctor that says "no" list their names here so we know to avoid them.

swimming > jogging,running and cycling, the added resistance of water increases the effort required to swim adding to the fact that you use arms abs and legs to swim. both are agreed on this.

when cycling you're sitting essentially on your prostate and your peepee as your wang isnt just the long weewee you see it goes further back than that.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Jul 1 2006, 08:35 PM

i knew it! i always knew mine was longer than that!

haha

AH... I'm a swimmer. Been there, did it. Have you? The article says the pool temperature is 29 C, 60% humidity. I dont know malaysia weather figure is, but that was pretty hot. I dont swim on that weather, at 29 C, usually after 5-10 mins of swimming will warm my body, and feel uncomfort. Common pool temperature is around 26 C. I ask the pool supervisor, (also a guard), they test the water sample each day. He also told me a lot about pool maintanence, water sampling, turbidity, clorination etc. I like it in the morning, or after raining, whereby most people say it's cold, around 23 C.

About the sauna, just to make things simple, I just put 15 mins, that's the recommended duration for typical person after a workout session. Max is 30 mins, I won't recommend that if it's after a workout session.

And for fleshwound information, I'm an ethusiatic badminton player. My sweat drip on floor. I can drink 1.5 liter of water in 2 hours of intensive badminton matchs. I can easily squeeze half a cup (100ml) of sweat. I go swimming on alternate day when my friends are busy. I do 20 laps, in 2-3 sessions with 5 mins break in between, 45 mins session. And i don sweat in pool, nor i feel the sweat on my forehead when i rest. If I stop for too long, and other swimmer swim by, I can feel a gust of cold water. It's because the water around my immediate area began to warm up. I'm not exargerating, it's true, especially rest by the corner for 5 mins without moving. I only sweat when i get up, took my shower, change and on my way home, walk 5-10 mins to home at evening 7pm would get my forehead, back, leg sweaty already.. It's because my body is still warm, so it sweat then. I sweat heavily and i don notice any sweat when swimming. It's because of water help dissipate our body heat.

I dont quote doesn't mean I dont know, I speak from my experience ok.

Ya, i read somewhere it hurts our reproductive system when we sit on the saddle.
I never run in winter before, just heard it from my friends though, playing soccer at 18 C and he come home dry and clean. Maybe the intensity of his activity and ur running is way different. For all I know, by means of air and water specific heat capacity, water is thousands of time more capable to absorb heat than air, per unit volume. I dont want to raise an issue here. So you sweat in winter, that must be an intense running.

Save the eyes rolling when you're passing out from alcohol. You assuringly said nobody sweats while swimming fully immersed in water, I've provided a case where you sweat while swimming fully immersed in water. Even if it is to be at 23 C, you WILL sweat provided you swim vigorously enough, as your body sweats once your internal body temperature rises above normal which happens whenever your exercise. you can keep quoting your friends from Greenland not sweating while playing soccer in the open or that you have been swimming for so long you know everything there is to know, but the fact still remains, you can and do sweat while swimming as opposed to "you dont actually sweat in the pool".

Sauna DOES NOT burn fat.

Yes, of course it is ok. Good luck staying lean in the sauna room.

sigh its like this... you said your friend plays football and comes home dry right? ask him if he actually played or if he was a bench warmer. take a look at professional european players during winter or autumn, its cold, they sweat.

theres no argument here, unless your example has a disorder which causes his body to be unable to sweat, i'm right.

you will sweat when you swim, theres no argument here either, ask any doctor you want, if they know anything about what they're talking about they'll agree with me aswell. again no argument here, i'm right.

sitting in the sauna causes you to lose weight in water, thats why boxers and other athletes who have to follow a weight class wear water suits to sweat the weight out before weighing in before their match. after weighing in they drink liquids and their weight goes back up, you may lose some small amount of fat in a sauna but the majority of the weight you lose will be water. ask a doctor who knows about the subject and he'll agree.

everything here can be verified with a simple visit to a doctor's office, provided the doctor knows what he's talking about.

edit: changed soccer with FOOTBALL.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Jul 1 2006, 10:57 PM

Those DAMNED AMERICANS!

it is based on your self esteem..

both cycling and jogging is good but work for diet within 1~2 months??seems quite hard to achieve..at what weight you're aiming??

anyway 191cm??damn tall man..basketball player??i'm 181cm 65kg(max) and having a hard time to increase my weight

i tot it's australian?

soccer is american, pretty much everyone else calls it football or futball or some variation of football.

Actually, you can't do direct comparison between cycling & jogging. Both activities have different pros and cons and target different parts of the body. So, to balance yourself, it is best to do combination of swimming, cycling and running , aka thriatlon.

As a marathon runner, I advise you to start from the basic. Start with weight trainning, especially around thighs and calves muscles. Next, learn proper breathing through yoga. And next, learn proper way of running. Many people forget about this. You learn how to swim and drive on the road, but do not learn how to run. This is the major cause of injury. Have proper running equipment , such as running vest, short pant and running shoes.

... yoga?

while i agree with getting some amount of flexibility prior to getting into a full out run and proper breathing techniques are important... yoga?

learning to run is easy, most people in general get a proper form after 1-2 weeks of running on their own simply because their bodies begin to adjust for the added strain from running.

imo its much harder to learn how to jog properly.

shoes are important, but shorts and vest?

Yeah I agree with previous poster. Cycling and Jogging or even swimming not mutually exclusive what. Each has its benefits, do one on MOnday the other on Tuesday and rotatelah. What's the problem?

But sauna does nothing but make u lose water, and occasionally inhibitions (if you are so inclined and go to the 'other ' sort of sauna)

But I do enjoy a good sweat now and then. Opens your pores and whatnot right? Relaxinglah, like hot tubbing mah. But no real use for ppl who want to get healthy coz u lose water not fat.

I've done lots of research on best exercises and many scientists and doctors agree that brisk walking is the best exercise to slim down and keep fit because it is addictive. FYI, I brisk walk about 3 times a week....around 50 minutes each time. I usually exercise at night...because very cooling and relaxing.


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Hmm, interesting. My elderly parents brisk walk for exercise, coz that really all they can do. But I think they would agree its quite addicting, they tell me they feel weird if they don't do their morning rounds. U may have something there. Or its the usual adrenaline junkie situation.

Can anyone help me on this??

I want to know what should we eat and wait after how long then can start jogging??
Usually i jogging in the evening, one hour or half hour before i go for jogging, i will eat few pcs of biscuit/bread and a cup of hot milo/milk/nestum coz i afraid that i won't have enough glukosa or stamina during jogging and faint. After the jogging, i will straight go to have my dinner. Is that the chance that i will get appendicits disease is higher coz eat before jogging??

I'm not obese, i jogging coz i juz want to do some exercise...

Do u all have other suggestion??
Is it a appropriate practice??

I wonder how about the morning jogging, should i have my breakfast first then go for jogging or

follow my evening jogging practice, have a cup of hot drink+biscuit/bread first before go for jogging and go to have breakfast after jogging or

don't eat anything just go to jogging and have breakfast later??
i never jogging in the morning, but i curious to know...

hope sombody out there can answer my questions??
thank you.

Penny Bro, Try to do some sit up. Start from 25 to 50 to 75 to 100. It is very effective. Plus some other mini exercise, push up, jumping...

i lost about 3.5KGs after 1.5 months of exercising every weekend only. 168cm. <60KGs here

Lately I revive my interest in cycling, I am so envy u got an expensive bike for free. My 10 yrs old mountain bike sucks. I'm thinking to get a new one when I got enough money.