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post Dec 5 2013, 01:32 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hi, I have a question. The developer door bell wiring has 4 wiring meant for the attached door bell photo.

However, the door bell I bought only has 2 contact point. I tried connecting it myself, one to live wire and one to neutral wire and installed it to a plug, it will ding when I press the switch and dong when I depress the switch.

How to make it work on developer wiring? Sifu pls help...

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post Dec 5 2013, 01:52 PM

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Mine is as per attached, only got 2 point... Attached Image

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post Dec 5 2013, 02:09 PM

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Or I bought the wrong one ???
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post Dec 5 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 01:32 PM)
Hi, I have a question. The developer door bell wiring has 4 wiring meant for the attached door bell photo.

However, the door bell I bought only has 2 contact point. I tried connecting it myself, one to live wire and one to neutral wire and installed it to a plug, it will ding when I press the switch and dong when I depress the switch.

How to make it work on developer wiring? Sifu pls help...
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If your house is land property and the switch is outside, do not use this type. You have to get the 4 wire type.

This type will connect the 240v to the switch. Which is dangerous.

If for condo, than connect as follow
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 5 2013, 02:55 PM)
If your house is land property and the switch is outside, do not use this type. You have to get the 4 wire type.

This type will connect the 240v to the switch. Which is dangerous.

If for condo, than connect as follow
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My house is landed... So how do I connect? Is it that 2 wires are from the button and 2 are from the DB box, one is live and one neutral? So I joint live and one wire from the button onto the door bell while the neutral one together with another wire from the botton onto the 2nd wire connector?

About the 4 wire type is it has a built-in transformer to draw lesser voltage (assuming that is a 12-v door bell)? While the wiring will be 2 wires from the button at two connectors on the door bell while live / neutral on the other two connectors on the door bell?
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:32 PM

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4 wires is inside your house?

Mean 2 are to power the bell, 2 wires are the switch. When it short bell will ring.
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 03:24 PM)
My house is landed... So how do I connect? Is it that 2 wires are from the button and 2 are from the DB box, one is live and one neutral? So I joint live and one wire from the button onto the door bell while the neutral one together with another wire from the botton onto the 2nd wire connector?

About the 4 wire type is it has a built-in transformer to draw lesser voltage (assuming that is a 12-v door bell)? While the wiring will be 2 wires from the button at two connectors on the door bell while live / neutral on the other two connectors on the door bell?
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4 wire door bell have 2 lower voltage connector joint to switch wire. Another 2 wire from DB to power the door bell. Get this if house is land.

2 wire door bell, just follow the picture. Live to the door bell. Neutral joint together with 1 of the switch wire. Than put a condom on it. Another switch wire direct to the door bell neutral side connector. So total is 4 wire connection.
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post Dec 5 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 5 2013, 03:39 PM)
4 wire door bell have 2 lower voltage connector joint to switch wire. Another 2 wire from DB to power the door bell. Get this if house is land.

2 wire door bell, just follow the picture. Live to the door bell. Neutral joint together with 1 of the switch wire. Than put a condom on it. Another switch wire direct to the door bell neutral side connector. So total is 4 wire connection.
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Because I saw my friend house using the same model (2 connectors in it) so I bought the same type. Now if I want to use, how do I connect? I remember seeing 4 wiring on the wall in the house? 1 Live and 1 Neutral from the DB box and another two are from the button???
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post Dec 5 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2013, 03:32 PM)
4 wires is inside your house?

Mean 2 are to power the bell, 2 wires are the switch. When it short bell will ring.
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Later I go snap a photo to confirm... Is it usually 4 wires?
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post Dec 5 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 5 2013, 03:39 PM)
4 wire door bell have 2 lower voltage connector joint to switch wire. Another 2 wire from DB to power the door bell. Get this if house is land.

2 wire door bell, just follow the picture. Live to the door bell. Neutral joint together with 1 of the switch wire. Than put a condom on it. Another switch wire direct to the door bell neutral side connector. So total is 4 wire connection.
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Put a condom on it. I like this rclxms.gif Condom - safety, against pregnancy, against STD and against AIDS and now against electrocution. But how long can the condom last? Condom instruction said is one shot only tongue.gif
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Dec 5 2013, 04:07 PM)
Put a condom on it. I like this rclxms.gif Condom - safety, against pregnancy, against STD and against AIDS and now against electrocution. But how long can the condom last? Condom instruction said is one shot only tongue.gif
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He.... Actually it call wire cap. Because it look like condom and provide safety joint too. So I called it condom lah. biggrin.gif

It look like this.
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:35 PM

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Thanks guy... So for my wiring to be done is like

Live goes to one of the door bell connector
Neutral joint with the switch wire together with the wire cap (condom)
The other switch wire goes to the other door bell connector

The above will complete the circuit?

So if it is in the case of 4-connector door bell
2 lower voltage connector goes to the door bell switch
Live / Neutral from the wall goes to the other two connectors on the door bell

Am I right?
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post Dec 5 2013, 06:42 PM

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Get the bell that use the same wiring. If you have neutral outside, raining time + your outdoor switch leak your bell will continues ring. Worse if someone press the switch maybe electrocuted.
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post Dec 5 2013, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2013, 06:42 PM)
Get the bell that use the same wiring. If you have neutral outside, raining time + your outdoor switch leak your bell will continues ring. Worse if someone press the switch maybe electrocuted.
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Weikee, dont frighten him la tongue.gif but that's a real good piece of advice.

Actually doorbell can be misused by thief. They press the bell ting tong ting tong............and no one answer, they know nobody at home and they come in for their business
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post Dec 5 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2013, 06:42 PM)
Get the bell that use the same wiring. If you have neutral outside, raining time + your outdoor switch leak your bell will continues ring. Worse if someone press the switch maybe electrocuted.
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Is mine the same wiring? I also have the door bell button ready with leak proof lid that protects from water going in... Will that suffice??

One more thing, I notice that the door bell button has two connecting holes up and two down. Why is it so? I that just need to connect 1x neutral.. What is the other for??
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post Dec 5 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Dec 5 2013, 07:05 PM)
Weikee, dont frighten him la tongue.gif  but that's a real good piece of advice.

Actually doorbell can be misused by thief. They press the bell ting tong ting tong............and no one answer, they know nobody at home and they come in for their business
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Will alarm with infrared sensor help?
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post Dec 5 2013, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 08:42 PM)
Will alarm with infrared sensor help?
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Forget about door bell. Nowadays due to what i said no one want to install doorbell. Imagine you are in condo. Tingtong, noone home, they get in wait for you at the kitchen. When you come home they jump on you with a parang. Money, sex or life....It could be all of it...if you have no money. Not what I say, everyone think so.

So, how? no door bell? Today unlike yesterday your mobile phone is the door bell la. icon_rolleyes.gif No need for door bell. How often people visit you? Once a month? Once a year?

Prevention is better than cure. Besides no door bell, just buy a dummy big to be seen camera at the door front as though you have a state of art cctv alram system. They choose another unit/house instead of yours. Similarly if your car has a visible steering lock at your parked car steering, they dont bother about your car. There are so many other cars.

Unless they know you are so rich and got so much money at home, once they target you are finished!!!! They cut wire to your alram, they take your recorder for the cctv...etc
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Imagine the switch are wet, and someone press it, the body will flow current to the earth.

Get a correct bell, of all you know after few years your kids are playing the bell switch, if its configure via neutral is very dangerous.

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post Dec 5 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2013, 09:38 PM)
Imagine the switch are wet, and someone press it, the body will flow current to the earth.

Get a correct bell, of all you know after few years your kids are playing the bell switch, if its configure via neutral is very dangerous.
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Then what kind of door bell is not configured through neutral completing circuit?
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Dec 5 2013, 09:36 PM)
Forget about door bell. Nowadays due to what i said no one want to install doorbell. Imagine you are in condo. Tingtong, noone home, they get in wait for you at the kitchen. When you come home they jump on you with a parang. Money, sex or life....It could be all of it...if you have no money. Not what I say, everyone think so.

So, how? no door bell? Today unlike yesterday your mobile phone is the door bell la. icon_rolleyes.gif No need for door bell. How often people visit you? Once a month? Once a year?

Prevention is better than cure. Besides no door bell, just buy a dummy big to be seen camera at the door front as though you have a state of art cctv alram system. They choose another unit/house instead of yours. Similarly if your car has a visible steering lock at your parked car steering, they dont bother about your car. There are so many other cars.

Unless they know you are so rich and got so much money at home, once they target you are finished!!!! They cut wire to your alram, they take your recorder for the cctv...etc
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Noted on this... My front will have 3 camera, of each sending emails to phones should it detects something... Hope it helps...

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