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ozak
post Dec 5 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 01:32 PM)
Hi, I have a question. The developer door bell wiring has 4 wiring meant for the attached door bell photo.

However, the door bell I bought only has 2 contact point. I tried connecting it myself, one to live wire and one to neutral wire and installed it to a plug, it will ding when I press the switch and dong when I depress the switch.

How to make it work on developer wiring? Sifu pls help...
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If your house is land property and the switch is outside, do not use this type. You have to get the 4 wire type.

This type will connect the 240v to the switch. Which is dangerous.

If for condo, than connect as follow
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 03:24 PM)
My house is landed... So how do I connect? Is it that 2 wires are from the button and 2 are from the DB box, one is live and one neutral? So I joint live and one wire from the button onto the door bell while the neutral one together with another wire from the botton onto the 2nd wire connector?

About the 4 wire type is it has a built-in transformer to draw lesser voltage (assuming that is a 12-v door bell)? While the wiring will be 2 wires from the button at two connectors on the door bell while live / neutral on the other two connectors on the door bell?
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4 wire door bell have 2 lower voltage connector joint to switch wire. Another 2 wire from DB to power the door bell. Get this if house is land.

2 wire door bell, just follow the picture. Live to the door bell. Neutral joint together with 1 of the switch wire. Than put a condom on it. Another switch wire direct to the door bell neutral side connector. So total is 4 wire connection.
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Dec 5 2013, 04:07 PM)
Put a condom on it. I like this rclxms.gif Condom - safety, against pregnancy, against STD and against AIDS and now against electrocution. But how long can the condom last? Condom instruction said is one shot only tongue.gif
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He.... Actually it call wire cap. Because it look like condom and provide safety joint too. So I called it condom lah. biggrin.gif

It look like this.
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post Dec 5 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 10:11 PM)
To illustrate the door bell that I was referring earlier... I wonder why there are 4 holes?? Upon closer check, every 2 holes at the bottom and at the top connecting to the same copper plate in it... [attachmentid=3755235] [attachmentid=3755236]
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You just need to connect to 1 hole top and 1 hole bottom. Those are extra.

I think you better ask somebody experience to help you. Electric can kill. You need some basic knowledge to do.
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post Dec 5 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Dec 5 2013, 10:34 PM)
Yes, I will not be the one installing but I am purely asking more. Too dummy in this area.

Anyway, for the external door bell button, if I install with a waterproof lid, I wonder will it be ok then?

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I bet your outside wall is rough finish. So this cover will not able fully to seal the wall side. Water will sip in.

If you want to listen to the forumner advice here, go get a 4 wire door bell. It won't cost you must.

I know you won't going to press the bell. But you don't want kill your friend either.
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post May 18 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(psyntium @ May 18 2014, 01:42 PM)
hi guys,

need ur help.. i just bought this door bell @ houz depot.. but confused with the wiring.. i have Red + Black + 2x White wire from the wall.. I know that the white wires are for the switch, and red and black wires for the power.. but how should I wire it to the door bell.. no proper instruction is attached with the door bell package..  sad.gif

attached is the DB pix:
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Thanks!!
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Try to check around the bell casing or box for an electrical diagram. And post it here. There is only 3 connection in your door bell. If can't find. Better go back to the shop and ask for a manual. Probably missing the manual.
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post May 19 2014, 09:27 AM

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And please makesure your live wire RED and BLACK don't have supply or electric. Before you do the joining.

OFF the breaker to the wire or RCCB/main breaker if you don't no which 1. Pay attention to the safety.
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post Jun 4 2014, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(N73 @ Jun 3 2014, 10:56 PM)
Yup, this door bell I actually bought from Thailand. I buy this door bell mainly of the brand name and sound i like BUT very unfortunately you guy mentioned this is not suitable for outdoor. If u go to Schneider Malaysia website you may found they sell the weatherproof door bell switch BUT just cannot find this door bell sell in their Malaysia website.
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I have change 2-3x the door bell switch for over 16yrs. Due to the degrade of the plastic and switch mechanism spoil. Mostly cause by the UV sun. While the indoor door bell last till now.

So when the switch mechanism spoil, the internal contact is expose. I cannot immediately get a new 1 and change. That is dangerous when somebody press the switch. But the switch is no longer there. His finger is going to touch that 240v contact inside. Specially at night. sweat.gif

I have to get a pvc tape to temporary seal the hole. While go and buy a switch. But lucky my door bell switch contact is not 240v or 2 wire bell.
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post Sep 10 2015, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(borat @ Sep 10 2015, 06:29 PM)
Guys..

My door bell wiring system as follows:

Bell (inside) - 2 red 2 black 1 green 2 naked wires
Switch (outside) - 1 red 1 black 2 naked wires (red and black are wired to the switch)
Door chime - built in transformer. 2 port for switch & 2 port for 220v

Can you please assist me on installing this wired door chime?

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You need to know where is this switch wire go in the house. Is the switch wire have supply?
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Sep 11 2015, 03:31 PM)
240v is dangerous but switch is not 240v, we based it on 6A. power socket is 20A. Hence, 6A is like ant bite
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I don't care the switch is 20A or 100A. It is not important.

What I care is the safety. When 240v with outdoor, makesure it waterproof, weatherproof or whatever proof. To makesure it don't kill you.

Safety first.
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post Sep 11 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Sep 11 2015, 04:01 PM)
u still dont get it. dont u.
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I don't understand what you try to said.
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post Sep 11 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 11 2015, 04:33 PM)
You try 240v 6A, see got ant bite. even 1A of 240 enough to kill you. 240v AC with small amount of Amp will be enough to kill you. even with 0.5A
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I m waiting what he try to explain here. Seems like we miss understand what he try to tell here.
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post Sep 13 2015, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ZOOL COOL @ Sep 13 2015, 01:05 PM)
My condo already have the switch outside for doorbell but no bell inside. The wiring for bell has 5 wires. 3 blue, 1 green, and 1 black. From post here, there are only 4 points for doorbell. So which extra wire i dont connect or should i get doorbell with 5 wires? Thanks in advance.
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You need to take the picture outside and the inside wiring. Post here.
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post May 21 2017, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Lohtcing @ May 21 2017, 08:43 PM)
sorry to bump old thread as i have the same question.
This is my current door bell.
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it's spoil, and I wish to ask whether I can replace with this one from taobao?
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If yes, whats the correct way to wire it?
Thanks all!!
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Can. But not advice. Cause the outdoor switch will running on high voltage. Which probably the switch not waterproof.

Get back the original wiring.
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post May 22 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2017, 08:19 AM)
after moving here two years ago, i like to report that i still dont have a doorbell
cant find one that plays star trek intercom beep  laugh.gif
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You looking for unusual fetish. Where to get? 😝

Suggest to you to use some prerecord audio electronics board. Put a switch and you can use it.
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post May 22 2017, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2017, 10:20 AM)
got lah but i too lazy to mess with it. in china (from aliexpress, etc) can find those wav/mp3 doorbell. then you put your own file in it, tada.... rclxms.gif
but problem is my wiring is 240V, need to think about where to put the transformer etc

I dont mind something like this - I want only the mechanism to pull the bell. I dont want the bell. I want to use my wind chimes and attach to the puller/control unit
Any ideas? like some kind of servo


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Get that aliexpress wav/mp3 la.

Powersupply easy la. Just get the switching powersupply. Wire 240v in. Than joint the dc wire to the board. That's all.

The chimes also not difficult. Either use A DC vibrator motor or solenoid.

Vibrator motor -> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/UXCELL-Rate...2d-d5cac3c2b106

Solenoid -> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hto-0420L3v...c5-8eb50aa6e6be

Parts you need,
1) powersupply 240v-> 5v/12vdc
2) Vibrator motor or solenoid
3) switch
4) casing.


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post May 22 2017, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 22 2017, 09:44 AM)
Arduino biggrin.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnMqPERvCw

Got less complex design, just google around.
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You need learn the arduino prg and board before able to DIY.

Not for normal people.

Buy the ready make.
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post May 22 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2017, 01:23 PM)
You should know my DIY skills not good la
I sked burn down the house
my boss will fry my sotong 😭
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Nah

user posted image

No fried sotong. No electrical. No fire.

Classic look too.
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post May 22 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 22 2017, 01:51 PM)
For non Arduino savvy, best is get a simple motor, spring load it, but this need some mechanical work.
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That vibrator motor is simple enough. Press the switch and activate the motor. That counter weight will hit the spring or chime in high speed. Create the shaking chime.

Nothing much mechanical work require. A bracket to mount the motor and chime together.
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post May 22 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2017, 01:23 PM)
You should know my DIY skills not good la
I sked burn down the house
my boss will fry my sotong 😭
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Teh tarik on you.

Nah

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/NURB...0557668320.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Honeywell-Char...8UAAOSw42dZCTu-

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Selling...04-b65f2cad0eed

In second thought, I prefer starbuck latte. tongue.gif

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