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Photography Official Fujifilm X-Series Premium Cameras V2, got your 10-24mm and 56mm yet?

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post Dec 7 2013, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(seather @ Dec 5 2013, 04:19 PM)
hope got some concrete new on the X200 FF news b4 CNY.. if not will buy the X100s la laugh.gif
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thank you for your reply on the other thread btw tongue.gif. the frame correction thingy, is it just for the x100s/x-pro 1 or does the x10 have it? from what i remember i didn't see a frame correction thingy.

i think i'm gonna get the x-pro 1 haha. depending on how quickly i manage to sell my camera! if i manage to sell up to the amount for the body + 35mm then i'll buy the x-pro 1 straight to use for cny hehe
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post Dec 21 2013, 11:32 PM

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hehe, finally got it! New X-Pro 1 user here! with 35mm f/1.4, Samyang 8mm f/2.8 Fisheye and EF-20. also bought the Match Technical soft shutter release & Artisan & Artisan leather strap at YL just now.

btw, the 23mm and 35mm what are the differences except for the focal length? i tested out the 23mm at YL Camera just now, it feels more solid and its a bit bigger. and also with the cool push the focus ring to AF/MF (took me 5mins to figure out why it was in MF haha)
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post Dec 23 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(beelze_gpwk @ Dec 23 2013, 06:25 AM)
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after getting the x-pro 1 (moving from the 60D), the biggest thing I miss is also the articulating screen! I actually use it quite a lot for low angled shots and huge group selfies with my fisheye. I like the EVF a lot too, its really bright and it has all the info there (even the quick menu which was really cool, but i think it's easier to change just by looking at the screen). It lags when you move the camera quickly but honestly I don't see a problem with that as I too don't use it for sports haha.

I think their grip is meant to be like that to make the camera not too bulky like a DSLR.. for me i found it really awkward too to hold the camera after having such a nice grip on the 60D but I think it's not such a big issue, can adapt tongue.gif. I haven't had the chance to try the optional grip yet as they told me i can't attach it to my camera, only can see and touch. same with the thumbs up too.
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post Dec 23 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 23 2013, 09:54 PM)
you sold all of your gears?
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yes bro. a bit lower than expected but still manage to sell all quickly. but only received all the pms to buy my items right after i posted in the canon thread haha. 3weeks in garage sales only 1 or 2 ppl pm me
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 23 2013, 10:26 PM)
the weight and IQ from fuji is really poisoning. but the autofocus is holding me back (i don't shoot sports all the time, but I love capturing actions for some instance), and no cheap telephoto lens too (for example i can get a good 200mm f2.8L from canon at around rm2k which offers excellent IQ and autofocus), same to the lack of good macro lens (the 60mm is nice and tiny, but has super slow autofocus that is a little too slow for daily shooting and only offers 1:2 magnification and the price is quite expensive, compared to what i can get with canon 100mm macro or tamron 90mm macro).

that said, it's tiring sometimes to bring heavy dslr gears everywhere even mine was just only 550D with a 70-200.
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for me it's the same like that. but one day I just decided to just jump ship to Fuji after making up my mind and sticking with it. the logic of having a DSLR (in my mind of course) is if I can get so many lenses, and if I have the funds to, I will get them. a telephoto, a standard wide angle zoom lens, a fisheye, a big ass flash which is like 10x the size of the EF-20/EF-X20 flash. not to mention a big ass bag which will make me feel like i'm migrating to another country (also, as I travel a lot it's a big pain to travel around with my gear.)

why not just bring what I need for the trip? simple.. i always have this thinking that if I have the gear available, why not just bring all with me. who knows maybe I will see the need to use the 70-200 at an indoor function (yes, of course it popped into my mind that I will use it for maybe 1 shot or something). but always I will end up carrying a big bag with me to a dinner. Also there's a case of getting a good tripod and bullhead which can support the weight of my gear, which probably won't be light, won't be cheap & won't be easy to lug around.

now I go out for a simple dinner can just bring my billingham hadley pro with all my gears which is just 1 body 2 lens 1 flash for the weight of probably just the 60d body + 1 lens alone, and i have space in the bag for more stuff too (i was tempted to buy this Sirui tripod I saw at YL which can be folded but it didn't fit into my bag!).

I think it just comes down to the individual haha. I think even some people who can afford to fund both a DSLR system and a system like the fuji x series will have a hard time deciding to bring which camera for an event and end up bringing both! I have seen quite a number tourists while I was in Europe carrying a DSLR w/ a 24-70 or 70-200 and also carrying an x100/x100s/x-pro 1 with them, which i thought was pretty impractical as they will be super tired at the end of the day and not have fun on their holiday! (which is of course my opinion).
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 23 2013, 11:13 PM)
yeah, more gears = more frustration. hopefully someday the price of fuji lenses will drop by a bit more. (not all lenses, but a few that are quite overpriced such as the 60mm and 55-250mm)
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even the 23mm is not so cheap. its 2.7k! i only bought the xpro1 and 35mm bundle as the guy gave me a good deal for 4.4k for both. so i just paid like 1k for the 35mm. now trying to sell the 35mm for a bit more so i can get the 23mm haha. and yes, the 55-250 is also quite pricey RM2k i think.
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 23 2013, 11:30 PM)
maybe end up sell 10-22mm and 85mm f1.8 and get 70-200mm f4 IS  biggrin.gif

or maybe add a X-m1 + a 35mm primes for normal casual use since it quite reasonable price , roughly how much i can get for X-M1 + 35mm ?
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you look in the garage sale for Mr. Oss and tell him you're LinTao's friend see can give u good price or not haha. i bought my x-pro 1 + 35mm from him for 4.4k
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 23 2013, 11:27 PM)
yeah, some of the prices are really crazy. even FF samyang 24mm f1.4 costs less than that (maybe not as sharp as the fuji, but how much else you should ask for a 1.5k f1.4 lens). A XE-2 + 23mm would costs almost the same as a 6D + samyang 24mm which is quite crazy.
i would suggest the first combo, since the 10-22 is a really good lens and fuji's 35mm is quite cheap also.
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yeah bro but the samyang 24mm is manual lens ma, I would rather spend 1.2k more to get the fuji's 23 1.4. manual focusing is quite fun actually, especially with the peak mode, but it'll take a bit more time to take a photo, then if have to ask people to help me take a photo if i want to be in the photo then people dunno how to manual focus. i think its not worth the trouble haha (of course people who always use mf will disagree, but that's just me haha).

I agree with mingyuyu, the 60D+ 10-22 and fuji with 35mm is a good combo. right now my setup is x-pro 1 with 35mm (planning to sell and get 23mm soon) + 8mm fisheye for wide photos.
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 23 2013, 11:44 PM)
why sold the 35mm and get the 23mm ?
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actually i was thinking about this beforehand.. i played with the x100s which has the 23mm length and i thought that this length is just nice for me..not too wide not too tele. with my 60d setup i'm with the 17-40 and more often than not i'm towards the wide end. of course la easy to say so lazy why not just take 5 step back 35mm become 23m, but what if i in not so wide room and i'm already with my back against the wall? to make 23mm become 35mm is ok ma, can walk forward 5steps, to make 35mm become 23mm a bit difficult if space is limited.

also, this is actually my first time using just primes haha. now i understand why people say with primes you actually learn how to compose your shots properly. you can't zoom, need to move to find the shot you want. but i like it a lot, i like the weight too. i can go hawker stall bring my x-pro 1 and people won't stare at me (except for photography enthusiasts la they recognise x-series which i think attracts the attention of a lot of photography enthusiasts)
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post Dec 24 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 24 2013, 12:02 AM)
That the reason too why I want a compact camera, bring a 60d + 1755 to a restaurant like first anniversary,  me or my wife birthday dinner is quite big size, ppl will pay attention on ur bulky camera haha

Either I go 60d + primes and sell my 1755 , but alot of my fren stop me to do so haha, say wasted if sell the 1755, should keep it and get a GX7 + 23mm or x100/s or xe1+35

Sometime its so hard to make decision
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its the same for me lo haha. i go simple family/friends dinner if i want to take just 1 or 2 shots need to lug a big dslr with 2 lenses(my 17-40 and samyang fisheye) and 1 flash and i will have to carry a heavy bag all the time, and if wanna go somewhere after that yumcha cannot leave in car coz not safe, then need to carry with me also haha.

the x100s is pretty good actually, i really like the shutter sound and the look of the camera! i was so indecisive between the xpro1 and x100s then i googled for my favourite lens to use(samyang 8mm fisheye) to check whether got fuji x mount or not and turns out they do have it! so after that i straightaway decided and told the seller that confirm i want the x-pro 1.

and yes lo, even though dslr so common everywhere now, people will still stare at your setup and automatically think you are rich. also you will be easy target for snatch thief & robber.
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post Dec 24 2013, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 24 2013, 12:27 AM)
but 24mm wideness and f1.4 at FF is really poisoning, can do some super low light photography in almost pitch black condition yet still get clean pictures (but would be a pain to focus tongue.gif)

haha, that's one of the best benefit of mirrorless cameras, you can shoot stealthy and get more candids.

the x100s is very poisoning also, but i am afraid 23mm might be not enough for landscape. too wide for closeup portrait also, but perfect for streets and travel. can only afford 2nd hand x100 for now, but I don't want get any more body/ lenses unless I can sell something in my current lineup away.
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yes bro but you see your 1st and 3rd comment haha. 24mm is really wide on FF yes that's very true, but you'll have to buy ANOTHER lens to use for portrait if you're going with the idea that 23mm is too wide for closeup portrait.

I played with the 23mm lens when I was with YL and I was like damn, I didn't realise the 35mm is so tight haha. for the not-wide-enough part, that's where my fisheye comes in. sure, some people dislike the distorted look but for the samyang, for far away objects the distortion isn't that much actually. and i love that i don't have to ask people to take the photo for me, i can just snap the fisheye on, tell my whole family of 6 people to stand behind me and we can take our family photo + the background + so much more. but the only thing now is that i don't have the articulating screen to compose my shot sad.gif


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post Dec 24 2013, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(kernel123 @ Dec 24 2013, 12:39 AM)
do u even  consider x100s for travelling?  and why u would chose x pro 1 instead of xe1?  is it having an ovf is really that good?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 24 2013, 12:46 AM)
yeah, but i can change lens on DSLR, but no on the x100s. it will be good enough for full body shots though.
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@kernel123 : honestly, i don't know also. the guy who sold me the x-pro 1 also recommended me to take a look at the xe1/2 if i don't really care about the ovf. i just don't know haha. the xe/xa/xm and whatever series never really appealed to me, only the x100/x100s and x-pro 1. and I think I tried the xe1 but felt that it was too small in my hands so its a bit difficult to hold so i decided against it. but i can't rmb whether it was the xe series or not, its the first one they released after the x100/x-pro 1 to not have the viewfinder.

@mingyuyu oh i thought you were talking about x-pro 1, my bad haha. but then again, it comes back to the part about changing lenses. if we have the option, have the lens, we will want to bring all our arsenal of lenses with us so we can take the shots we want. 1 uwa for landscape, 1 wide angle standard zoom for normal use, 1 telephoto for sports, etc, 1 prime for portraits, wtv. if we have the option, we will opt for it, we will feel the "need" to have more lenses.

I decided to change my setup so even if I feel like I "need" another lens, i won't have the option so I won't want to fork out more money to spend more and just make do with what I have and enjoy taking photos without worrying about people eyeing my setup and carrying a bag which is 5-10kg when i am on an outing with my family or friends.


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post Dec 24 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(beelze_gpwk @ Dec 24 2013, 05:50 AM)
just personal opinion, if plan to use prime, normally want to be discrete... use Fuji better... DSLR + Prime will still attract a lot of attention from people. but if this is not your concern, then either way will do. a lot of DSLR shooter who don feel like letting go of their DSLR system will go for X100/100s as a second body. just like a DSLR second body attached with prime lens. at least it is not at all bulky and a lot of fun to use.

when using DSLR i have never go more than 80mm before as the longest lens i have stops at 85mm... i really don do much of sports or wild life thing. so at the moment not planning to get fuji 55-200mm yet. Will definitely get the 10-24mm, with kit lens 18-55, then maybe add one or two fast prime and i should be able to survive for quite some time. All in all, the investment is surely there, just hope that i can recover most of it from my old gear selling off  cry.gif
 
Depending on what you shoot, actually there're quite some cheap manual lens that can be use with Fuji, which is something i will definitely look into  blush.gif  Feeling like re-learn all my photography skills and passion after getting the X-E2
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I've never used primes with my DSLR tongue.gif. But yes, that's very true, DSLR in general attracts a lot of attention as its bulky and people will immediately mark you as a rich person (even if you're using a d3100 or 450d which cost about the same as a compact). I found it difficult to walk around when I'm having a day trip when I have to carry my DSLR to take photos. Sometimes I'm even too lazy/too afraid to take out my DSLR in some areas that I just use my phone to snap photos.

I haven't actually had the chance to use my x-pro 1 yet haha. only tonight and tomorrow. but i have a feeling that i will enjoy it immensely even without the articulating screen. for me I used my 70-200 quite a lot as I'm doing my piloting course and it's really good to use to take photos of planes and stuff but now as I am done with the course, I thought that once i got back to KL, I will sell my whole set up and jump to Fuji (which I have been eyeing ever since the release of the X100).

Like I said, manual focusing can be fun but for me it's a pass haha. It's way too troublesome for me to learn how to do the right way & it will be a cause for me to buy the f/0.95 lens haha. I really like the leica M series, I had the opportunity to touch(molest whistling.gif ) an M9 some time ago and damn, the feel of it is just really good haha. it feels like a car not like a camera. Even with that said, I still think that I will never get the Leica M even if I could afford it because manual focus is just not my thing haha.
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post Dec 25 2013, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(./Hack-Fusion @ Dec 25 2013, 12:16 PM)
Hi, anyone know where i can test x100s , xe-2 , x-m1 ?? Thanks
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x100s, xm and xe i think at any fotokem can.. u just tell them u want to see those 3 and test and then want to maybe buy they will let u try.. don't have x-pro 1 though, they said they never receive stock from fuji msia.

i tested with the x100s, there was xe and xm but i didn't ask as wasn't interested in those models haha. i tested at sunway btw.
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post Dec 25 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 25 2013, 12:31 PM)
My flickr.com/chongkiat , all from the canon 60d, will try the fuji out once I get the camera, and I found fuji xf 27 is so pricy, maybe will get a 35mm in future haha
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i think u referring to the 23? that one really is quite pricey sweat.gif . i sell to u la my 35 haha..i wanna switch to 23 as 35 is a bit tight for me. i only bought the 35 coz bundle is super cheap, save rm500.
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QUOTE(./Hack-Fusion @ Dec 25 2013, 04:28 PM)
thanks for the info , even i dont want buy yet, they still let me test? thanks  smile.gif
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ya bro..normally even lens i ask them let me test and if they have display unit they will let haha..normally shops won't open brand new to let u test, only display units.

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post Dec 26 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 25 2013, 07:12 PM)
When u wanna sell it? Wait I get the 1650mm and 18mm f2 first, I will pm u hehe, how much u wanna let it go bro?
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bro i selling now is still brand new haha. i got it just on friday haha. selling 1500, brand new 16xx
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post Dec 26 2013, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 26 2013, 12:24 AM)
ok bro , wish i can get from u , but i need to see that 16-50 and 18mm f2 is suit me or not , else i will sell 18mm f2 and fund for 35mm f1.4  biggrin.gif
Anyway did u face any focusing problem with ur xpro1 ? like the famous Sigma primes lens lemon copy  biggrin.gif  and the 35mm f1.4 is sharp wide open?
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no bro, sometimes is like the focus is off but re-press the shutter button then its ok edi. it'll just miss 1, but its really quite sharp at 1.4 bro. i was using it today (finally haha). down to 2 or 2.8 it gets really sharp!
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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Dec 26 2013, 11:03 AM)
IKR.  vmad.gif

When I work, I usually bring a 3kg+ full DSLR and a Fujifilm X-E1, the combo works great.  icon_rolleyes.gif

For travel, get a mirrorless, any mirrorless but for the best "gentle" and quality, you can relax when it comes to Fujifilm.
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hahaha. i already can imagine if i kept my 60D and bought an x100s or x-pro 1, i will want to bring all with me. ya i agree, i really like fuji's mirror less. i've tried some other cameras like the nex/lumix gf/etc etc (not sure if they're mirror less la but generally talking about cameras higher than compacts and lower than dslr), and i really like fuji's x series.

haha, i was at curve on xmas eve with a friend. she and I went to sit and laundry bar for some drinks but I was really afraid to take my xpro1 out as they were starting to spray the foam thingy even at 10+ doh.gif . saw many photo opportunities but I was afraid as its my newborn baby tongue.gif.
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post Dec 27 2013, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Dec 27 2013, 01:18 AM)
I never know he got sell battery haha, I thought he only sell camera
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he should sell tongue.gif. he gave me 1 free battery with my purchase so i think he sells accessories as well.

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