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 Peugeot 408 Owners/ Fans Thread [V2], Motion & Emotion

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(kob1488 @ Jan 2 2014, 10:24 PM)
Thankyou! As for the problem identified was again due to battery failure and not performing well. Got new one changed by sc without cost. Picking up the car tomorrow as i let the sc do wheel alignment as well. Thought delkor battery would last but not really. Sc said maybe the one i got was a defect one do they had put a new one for me, but still delkor brand. So this is my third battery now...
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I am surprised it's the battery again. Especially since the source of electrics at the time of your problem is not from the battery. Did the SC do a systems diagnosis. Anyway tks for the alert. Most of us have gone on to 2nd battery. I guess that is an item to keep an eye on.

I changed my battery 6 months ago,OK till now. Anyone here having problems with 2nd battery? jessyeo was 1st to go on 2nd battery. Any feedback?

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(kob1488 @ Jan 3 2014, 10:49 AM)
yes, the SC had made full diagnosis and no sign of any electric problem other than battery not providing enough voltage, Once they changed the battery everything returned normal. Yea i think it is good to monitor your battery constanly.
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Tks for your feedback. Keep in touch! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 5 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Jan 5 2014, 03:34 PM)
Hi All 408 Owners And Sifu,

Im in abit of a dillema here. Im deciding to buy a new car and 408T is in my list. I hope to get some honest and unbiased feedback from you all. Unbiased coz all are owners here =P  Hahahahahah

I have test drove it before and i have no problems with the interior. VERY spacious and comfortable. The seats are really comfy for both drivers and passengers. The French are good at making awesome seats. Built quality i think can be better but i can accept the way it is.

Performance, im not too sure. When i was reading through the threads, it seems everyone is very impress by the 408T's power. But i dont get how everyone here feels though. On paper it is 163hp/240nm. But i dont feel it though. Is there something wrong with the car i tested? Or my butt dyno got problem? LOL. I feel is not really quick off the line and gear changes is abit sluggish. No problems on the stability and handling though.

I would really like to hear from owners here in regards to the performance.

By the way, im opting for a White Griffe. Looks so much better.

Thank you very much guys.
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Hi mtbk3
I can understand your delima. Let me try and explain.

The 240nm this engine puts out is pretty decent. It's not exceptional but not bad. It's about what a 2.5liter NA churns out. My previous car was 325 e46. Although my Bimer had higher hp (192hp), the 408t has better acceleration. This is because the 240nm is available at low end (1400rpm). On the Bimer i'll have to get it up to around 4000rpm to get same torque.

If you want the push back butt to the seat feel, then you need something like 350nm. What you need is the 508GT. 450nm torque will give that feel!
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post Jan 5 2014, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Jan 5 2014, 08:13 PM)
Hi SKYjack,

Thanks for your reply. I tested the Focus as well, and felt that the Focus is quicker than the 408T. The Focus only has 7hp more but the 408T has 40nm more. Of course the Focus has a better GB and im not referring to the GB's quickness and smoothness. Just  the way the Focus goes up to speed seems faster. I find it weird. And this is the reason im in a dillema. The 408T should be quicker with 240nm on tap. But i dont feel that way.

I would like to know what others have to say about the 408T's performance though.

Thank you very much.
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I'm really surprised you say the Focus is quicker. Focus churns out 200nm,40nm less as you said. GB will make a difference,but torque on NA's is at high end. For good acceleration low end torque is important.Like I said earlier,I find 408t acceleration a tad better than my 2.5 liter 192hp Bimer.

I can only conclude the Pug you tested did not perform as expected or had a problem.

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post Jan 6 2014, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Jan 6 2014, 01:06 PM)
Lolx, all the while I thought u are dilemma in Focus and 408T.
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I think we Lion owners managed to get him out of focus!
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post Jan 7 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Jan 6 2014, 11:08 PM)
ive met a few pug drivers...5008, 407, 308t, vti etc.......whilst the car is good, naza has absolutely no idea how to mentain these cars.

imagine to change engine oil u have to leave it overnight. hence why you see the value of 308t's falling like a ginormous snowball
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I guess they need time to read the 'mentaince' book!

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post Jan 7 2014, 03:59 PM

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8sec 0 - 100kpm by Focus is brochure figure. I wouldn't trust this. There is no way a 2Liter NA can do this unless fitted to a go-cart!

Renault Megan and Civic, both 2 liter 200nm NA engines, that I tested are definitely slower than the 408t with 240nm!
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post Jan 7 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jan 7 2014, 01:43 PM)
i'm not surprised when people come in and mention friends, aunties, uncles, nephews giving advices for something which they don't own  whistling.gif
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Yup happens all the time. Remember the idiot who told us we are wasting money on addons to beautify our car! It's plain jealousy. They would have paid much more for something that is no where compared to our Lion!
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post Jan 7 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Jan 7 2014, 04:04 PM)
Relax bro. Dont get so worked up. Hahahahaha. Dont so "kek dung". LOL.

Oh and one more thing i remember about the 408T. The gear change. Its smooth. I like it. But how responsive is the gearbox? Does it drop gear itself when we brake and go into a corner? Like u tekan the car, then near to the corner u brake, does the car drops gear itself? Or is it like my vios, it doesnt drop gear until u exit the corner and step on the accelerator?
Thank you very much.
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No not worked up la......hehehe! Just stating facts cos I happen to be a car enthusiast and have tested many cars. I have tested several 2liter NA salons. Non have better acceleration than this 1.6THP. In fact this engine produces same power as some 2.4/2.5 liter NA engines. The Accord and Camry 2.4 NA can't even compare to this little 1.6THP. So to me it is laughable when you insist the 200nm Focus is faster! biggrin.gif

No offense!


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post Jan 7 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Jan 7 2014, 05:50 PM)
If this car can modify to 200hp/300nm.....Sure damn terror.....
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Yes possible. This year the Prince 1.6THP270 will be available. This will churn out 266bhp/330nm! Fancy?
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post Jan 7 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Jan 7 2014, 07:31 PM)
When??? On what car??? Sweeeet....
But back to my dillema....408T Griffe vs 208GTi....How ler?!?!?!?
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That engine will be on the RCZ,not sure when NAZA will bring to Malaysia.

Now for your dilemma. 208GTi will certainly be a fun car to drive. However KL/PJ traffic is a killer,I rather take the 408t. But I'm uncle already la. For young man better take the 208GTi.

Waaaaah now you got me into dilemma also....hehehe!
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post Jan 8 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Jan 8 2014, 09:02 AM)
I saw somewhere before that this is normal, there is a (inter/ mid gear?!) In between gear 2 and 3.
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Yes bro this is normal. I'm silent cos I don't have an explanation for easy understanding. It's to do with attained speed Vs gear ratios.

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post Jan 8 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Jan 8 2014, 09:46 AM)
Hahahaha. Uncle also can drive fun and powerful car mah. BUY BUY BUY!!!!~~LOL....Im actually very surprised that the 208GTi's clutch is not that hard and difficult to modulate. Still deciding la....my brain say 408T my heart say 208GTi....

I read through the explanation on my gearbox question and i think something is missing......Let me put it in more detail.....Lets say u driving it or tekan it, then the car goes all the way to 160km/h@6th gear, then got corner, you break before entering corner, during that breaking before entering corner, does the car drops automatically gear for you???

Thank you very much.
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Not only uncle factor,got voice animated speed limiter all the time next to me. "Why so fast,why so fast,slow down". If I buy the 208GTI,got to leave her at home and go for joy rides. Then she's think I've got a women on the side. Ayiaaa too complicated la. Think I'll just stick with my 408T la......hehehe!

If the clutch is hard/heavy,then it is a factor to consider,especially in the heavy KL/PJ traffic. As for your question,yes the gears drop automatically whenever you slowdown on straight line or corner. If you brake hard,this is about the one time you'll feel the jerks as the gears step down automatically.
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post Jan 9 2014, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(puppydogpoo @ Jan 8 2014, 05:41 PM)
Noob question:

My Check/ODO button displays "7000km" next to a spanner icon. Is this the mileage at which I should send my car for servicing? I am at 6960km already sweat.gif The SA told me that the car was just sent for 6th month servicing in Nov 2013.

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The spanner symbol appears to remind the driver service is due shortly. This symbol is triggered based on the maintenance plan. The plan takes into consideration two issues.
Time - This is 6 months from the last service.
Distance traveled - 10K km from last service.

The symbol appears based on which ever is closer. In your case the spanner has appeared cos of time. Your 6 months is due in 2 weeks. I think the last service was much earlier than Nov13,I wouldn't trust the SA!

You can run 7K km more( on top of the 6818km already done ) before next service, but should not exceed 6 month from last service date to keep warranty valid. Check your service booklet for service record. You may have less than a month left! In reality, you have less than a month to run 7k km.

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post Jan 9 2014, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jan 9 2014, 12:00 AM)
Hope you can share your knowledge here with us,I believe many will want to know...
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Sorry bro,there may be others who can explain this better than i can!
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post Jan 10 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jan 7 2014, 08:46 PM)
Guys’ just wanna check with you all, when moved to 3rd gear, will it like it will drop another 200 rpm before picking up again? Let’s say 2300 change to 3rd gear, drop 500rpm then when going up the rpm, it will drop another 200 rpm..
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Let me try this without getting into sun gear and planetary gears theory. Here's a simplified version.

Whenever a higher gear engages, there will be a drop in rpm. This is due to the engaged gear ratio. For example if you are doing 50kmh on 2nd gear,the moment 3rd gear engages the rpm drops. The ratio of the 3rd gear allows you do do 50kmh at lower rpm. Therefore the drop in rpm is due to engagement of 3rd gear. Most of the time we do not keep a constant speed but keep accelerating. As a result after that drop, rpm picks up till engagement of the next gear. At that point of engagement,rpm will drop again due to that gears ratio. This drop and increase in rpm continues till top gear engagement.

As this GB is adaptive, everyone will experience gear changes at different RPMs. Hope this helps.

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post Jan 10 2014, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(puppydogpoo @ Jan 10 2014, 11:24 AM)
The screen only appeared because I pressed the Check/ODO button. Didn't pop up as a warning.

I notice today that instead of 7000km, the same screen says 6800km now. I guess it is actually counting down the number of KM until next service? tongue.gif Can anyone please confirm?
Service booklet was empty when I collected my car but I asked the service centre staff to fill it up based on their electronic records... rclxub.gif
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If you manually excessed this info,then you have 6800km before next service. As for date, you should insist service records filled in service booklet. For your own reference and any warranty disputes. Although they have stored electronically,always good to have your own records at hand!
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QUOTE(puppydogpoo @ Jan 10 2014, 05:26 PM)
Yes, that's why I made them fill in the booklet when I collected the car  thumbup.gif
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Oh good,then you have 6800km or April/May 2014 before next service - confirm! biggrin.gif

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post Jan 10 2014, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(ghost007 @ Jan 10 2014, 06:54 PM)
Hi mtbk,

When I first get the 408T, I found that the handling is damn good and grip the corner like a lizard, now almost after a year, I start to feel & found out the weak point of the Lion, - pull to the left, harsh ride ( but good in cornering ) can only choose one !!
Some noise here and there as the car is quiet, any rattling sound will be easily notify, wind noise from the window when speed above 110km/h, tyre noise ( tyre already 30 % gone at 16K km, aircon not cool enough in the hot sunny day, audio sound no good, no reverse camera, no GPS.

I still like the car very much, it is about passion. I think this car is a winner amount the 1600cc conti car, it worth every penny I spend on this car, the luxury, the safety, the power, the handling, you see, all cars take you from point A to B..............but , in a difference shape.

I don't agree that the far east car is low in maintenance cost, how about the Rm 2500 cooling coil of the Camry, the RM 3500 alternator, and the nearly RM 4 K steering rack, and RM 1500 front disc, a RM 1500 /pc absorber including installation at Toyota center.Once will have a jaw drop by seeing this and yes, it is my personal experience, so what is the best car to own, the answer will be own a fully maintenance covers company car.

From the above, the 2.0 Camry maintenance cost is not cheap at all, or very near to the luxury conti indeed., and I should mention the forever problems HONDA suspension , you think you can drive a Honda like the 408T  ???
no way, first year may be, after that.... god bless.

Buy the Lion if you have the passion on it, if you are the type that don't know how to open the front bonnet type, stay away form the Lion. doh.gif
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post Jan 11 2014, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 11 2014, 03:53 PM)
nah, you just bluff your ownself

408 and camry is diff category

if u want to compare, you have to compare w same catergory

anyway , just your pure opinion

you have problems w your car but u dun admit it
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Please tell us the bluff and the problems he won't admit.

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