Tks for the alert bro. I see it now! I guess any one is free to post any nonsense.

The reason for ATF being high is due to transportation from Japan to France to Malaysia. There was some discussion of Naza sourcing ATF direct from Aisin Japan. Any update on this.

2.1K is the total service price, out of which 1.3K is for ATF. 1.3K just for ATF is still pretty high. Bro lowpro might have some inside knowledge on this. May be he can enlighten us!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jan 14 2014, 09:16 AM

I find the acceleration on 1st & 2nd to be quite good since torque is available at low end. I would say it is a shade better than my former car,E46 2.5liter engine. Max torque,about the same as our 408t, but on my E46 was at 4500rpm. So I had to rev the engine to 4500rpm before I could get the pulling power. Where else on the Pug it is available at 1400rpm. The good low end torque on the Pug made the difference on acceleration. I have personally felt the difference and the above is the explanation. Of course top speed was higher on the E46 with 192hp!

Recently there was a discussion on a 2liter NA engine having better acceleration than our 1.6THP. I have tested several 2liter NA cars. Non have better acceleration cos torque is 200nm and available at around 4000rpm.How on earth can this compare with 240nm the 1.6THP is churning out at 1400rpm! The only way the 2 liter to have better acceleration is to be fitted to a go cart, compared to our 1.6THP pulling 1.5tons!

I must say I've never pulled 5.5k rpm on 1st or 2nd. Sayang my Lion too much to stress her out that much! Anyway enjoy your Lion!

Turbo technology today has improved by leaps and bounds. It's a lot more reliable form the old designs. The 1.6THP on the 408t is the more reliable of the Prince series. This makes ownership of this car a wonderful experience. However maintenance after warranty will be high.

The NA is certainly a great bargain. On the long run it will be cheaper to maintain too. Congrats on your NA,enjoy it bro!

Tks for the info bro. By the time we are ready for ATF change the new price should prevail.

Need to make appointment at Setia Alam SC?

I see there's already very good feedback to him. I think he's concerned over Pug reliability and support and service. Unfortunately we hear more complaints about support and service than positive news. More often ppl tend to voice out dissatisfaction and stay silent when a good job done!

Altis and Civic no match for our 408t in power,handling and feel. I was shocked how cheap Civic's dashboard looked. The plastic looked and felt cheap! Focus may have better acceleration than 408NA. Although both cars are about equally powered, Pug may be heavier and response from power shift GB of Focus is better than our CVT. Interesting to note, you feel the handling of Focus is not as good as 408t.

Of course it is not equal field to compare THP with NA. But I feel price bracket is an important issue. It boils down to finally what you are getting for the money! This is where the 408t is supreme,beats all competitors hands down! I can understand 408T being your 1st choice,go for it!

Air-con on the Pug is not that strong. It does take quite a while before it gets cold,especially on a hot sunny day. A good tint helps.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jan 20 2014, 10:48 AM

This is a beauty la. I would trade in mine for this,if NAZA brings. I can see 408 sales going through the roof,if price was right.

http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/pug408.jpg



This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jan 20 2014, 03:55 PM

Actually I also confused already la. I thought that was a new design but didn't find any info. On searching more, found this. This is the facelift. No idea is NAZA will bring this.

http://www.cbt.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2...1142184cafb.jpg

So if the new design is to come in the future, that will be great. 3 - 4 years from now I'll be ready to change to that. However like I said, I could not find any more info. For all we know it may be just a design in the books. In which case too bad, cos it's such a beauty!

That's great and just fine. 3 years is about the time I would like to look for a new ride. Anyway apart from just new clothes,I also want to see engine innovations. Very keen on turbo diesels.

Facelift,I'm not interested.

I think the suffer from reading disability. Like my brother-in-law, told me he prefers Toyota cos better spec than conti's!

Oh dear,I hope you mean light steering! If a steering is loose,there will be a loss of feel & feedback. One of the reasons I bought this car is due to it's precise feel and feedback of the steering. I rate the feel of the 408t steering better than most more expensive Conti's.

I like the heavy feel. But most ppl now may be prefer the light feel. I hope this new feel has not changed the precise feedback!

I remember testing the Accord and did not like it all. It was so light,there was no feel at all!

Tap water good enough. Coolant from sparepart shop will be better.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jan 28 2014, 09:57 AM

Can also buy pre mixed coolant. Just have to topup with this only,no need to mix.

Coolant is used to remove excess heat from an engine. Without coolant or water the engine will simply overheat and seize. This mixture is pumped into jackets running all over the engine block. It then returns to the radiator where it is cooled and pumped back into the jackets to keep the engine from overheating.

Jackets are passages in the engine block. Coolant is a mixture of glycol and water. Glycol is excellent in removing heat and also has anti-rust property. All modern engines use coolant instead of plain water!

The left pull appears to be a symptom with Pugs. I hope Peugeot has addressed this issue. New owners can tell us if it is solved. Anyway my car had it and Peugeot SC are unable to solve it. I solved mine at a tyre and alignment shop.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jan 28 2014, 11:59 AM

You are most welcome. At my last service I informed the SC about my coolant level low,they just filled up with water. I'm not happy about this. Continuos topup with water will dilute coolant. I want to topup on my own next time. I will scout around for the coolant premix brand and come back to you.

Good that Peugeot has corrected the left pull issue.

Modern engines don't need to run in. They are manufactured under a different process. In fact there is nothing mentioned about run in even in the manual. You can go ahead and drive fast. Anyway there is no harm in running in if you want to do it.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jan 29 2014, 01:13 PM