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post Dec 9 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(irienaoki @ Dec 9 2013, 11:09 PM)
not enough tube bro.
order 3ft but they mistakenly sent only 2ft and customer rushing wanna complete it.
modding + wc assembly + leak test & bleeding = few hours only.
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doh.gif that's a shame.
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post Dec 9 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(foohoa @ Dec 9 2013, 11:25 PM)
hi, something to ask the the GPU water cooling
currently running HD7970
somebody say the VRM need some cooling too and the small chip at front

so, must use the full cover water block?
or a gpu water + some headsink for VRM and the small chip??
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If you get a full cover water block, the VRM and whatever that small chip in the front is, will be covered. If you go for a universal water block, then you'll need to find heatsinks or other methods of cooling, though will not be as effective as a full cover.

QUOTE(codenamew @ Dec 9 2013, 11:35 PM)
guys, im looking for advice whether 1x 240rad is sufficient to support oc 3570k + rx 290 in 1 loop. i will be overclocking my rx290 too and i would like to keep the temp cool by wc. pls advice
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How cold do you want to go? With the OC-ed CPU, you should be hitting around 55 - 60 degrees on a 240 rad. Plugging in the 290 and OC-ing that, expect to see temperatures of possibly about 65-75 (guessing here) on both your CPU and GPU if running both on 240mm.

IMHO, throw in at the very least a 360 rad. If you already have the 240, get another 240/360. skip a 120mm.

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post Dec 10 2013, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(foohoa @ Dec 9 2013, 11:56 PM)
so the VRM and small chip need fan blowing??
or a heatsink is enough??
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Well, for any heat sink to be efficient in cooling anything, it needs to have air flow around it. So have fans in your case that moves air through your case if you're gonna get heat sinks.

In some cases, like mine, there's pretty much zero air flow for the case environment, except from the radiator fans which I feel isn't enough for any form of passive cooling of components so all my stuff either is water cooled or has some form of heat conduction to something else.

I don't think you'll be able to do extended gaming or OC your GPU with just passive heatsinks.

But bro, do this. Calculate the cost of buying heatsinks + thermal pad/thermal adhesieve and the universal block and compare it to buying a single full cover water block. If the price difference is not something you can afford or want to pay for, then in some way you already have your answer. laugh.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(irienaoki @ Dec 10 2013, 12:04 AM)
ran 5 pieces of WBs with 360mm rad.gaming @ ultra setting gpu temp max 5x-60 for both.
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specs? Also, fans at 100% ?laugh.gif

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post Dec 10 2013, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(babyskiraz @ Dec 10 2013, 12:52 AM)
used to do that since older days... but now with the calculations of positive af case vs negative af case, i can see that negative af case benefits alot because you always get new air, while open air cause air turbulence/ spin in the same place thus receiving back same temp air instead of fresh air, my 2 cent though.

I use some of the modding car theories in pc since both are physics related brows.gif
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Well, if you can get a good flow through your case, and balance out the flow, you'd actually be perfectly ok. Did it before and damped the intake with DIY air filters. Got pretty good temps, and that was on air. thumbup.gif

And car theories are not always relevant to water cooling here. haha. But hey, what theories you using? Interested to know. smile.gif

QUOTE(irienaoki @ Dec 10 2013, 01:02 AM)
i7 920 d0 @ 4.2ghz
rampage 3 extreme
dom trip
evga gtx 570 sc sli

rx360
fan default speed @ 12v.
push pull (cheap arse fans).
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hot stufff. eh, rx360 thick ler sure no problem. haha!
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post Dec 10 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(babyskiraz @ Dec 10 2013, 02:43 AM)
the way car engine block being cooled off is the same theory with our wc here. But cars have bigger advantage as they move around the air flow into bay through reservoir where speed is in their favor.

some people are crazy enough to get car radiator and better pump to cool off their comp system, there are bunch of people do that.

while the damped intake with DIY air filter you mention can be similar to car intake filter(where in car its necessary as if not carbon will build up).

in fan movement theory, front case is intake, while the back act as exhaust, top or back can be intake or output, where what i can say is floor air temp is always lower than top.
currently im running :

asus z87-a
asus gtx770
4670k i5 oced to 4.6ghz synced core with turbo and speedstep enabled ( 35 Celsius on idle / 75 Celsius on full load)
* i dislike the 75 Celsius, so i hit it back down to 1.2v and see what i can do with that volt, ends up 4.3 ghz with (35 Celsius idle / 50+ ~ 60 Celsius on full load)
cosair dominator 4x8 quad channel kit

ekwb supremacy lc nickle + acetal
ekwb blood red coolant
cosair sp120 high performance twin fan for rads
ekwb 240 thick radiators
ekwb res with d5 pump
bitspower high compression fittings which cost me rm50 per piece * 6 rclxub.gif
cosair fan with 3.0mm /h20 static pressure ( the fan h100i using)

currently there is 3 fan pulling air into case, while 3 pushing out.

It's not perfect yet... but im still modding and tweaking along the way.

Sleeving and changing to z87 sabertooth and buying cosair gt ssd undergoing (wish me luck!) =]
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Yeah, people used to do the car radiator for computer. Now I rarely hear or see it.

QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Dec 10 2013, 03:54 AM)
guys, 1 bottle of Mayhem Pastel concentrates (250ml) enough to fill loop with 240mm rad and bitspower 250 water tank reservoir ?
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1 bottle makes 1 litre of coolant. When you flush/clean/rinse your loop, keep track of how much water you use. Or premix the concentrate in a bottle then pour the mix into your loop. smile.gif

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post Dec 10 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(steve1703 @ Dec 10 2013, 05:27 PM)
guys, i got sp120 fan for the radiator, which will be more eficient in pull or push for sp120 fan?
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Pretty much the same really. But use it in push. Some fans give out a hum when in pull, like my noiseblocker e loops.

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post Dec 10 2013, 07:38 PM

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So Swiftech had a hand in Cooler Master's Glacer 240L. blink.gif


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post Dec 10 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(codenamew @ Dec 10 2013, 07:56 PM)
im looking for performance price balance here in setting up another rad and block for my 290. im fine with 50-60c @full lpad on my 290. but must be in overclock setting.

btw im using corsair 500r. afraid I cant fit in another 240 without modding. any idea on the type of 240 that I should get?
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Perhaps an XSPC EX240? They're pretty slim so they kinda fit most cases. unequalteck, yours was 400R right? got any recommendations for our friend here since his case is a brother to yours? laugh.gif

QUOTE(kizwan @ Dec 10 2013, 08:13 PM)
Yes & the performance is pretty good. No surprise there since it is based on Swiftech H220 AFAIK. With some difference like pump speed & fans.
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Yeah, in the video they referenced the H220. Looks pretty much the same, even the style of packing.
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post Dec 10 2013, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(babyskiraz @ Dec 10 2013, 10:04 PM)
i did research in that as i hav previous question, seems that pristine bro using push method and im also...

push : pulling air from a bigger environment allows pressure to build up from back and pushing air into rads fins seems better

pull: pulling air from rads fins into bigger environment will be less ideal, due to the theory that the air pressure is unable to build up in front of rads and less air volume to be gathered.
as i can see top and beside hdd cage of 500r can be mounted 2 120mm fan, aint it?
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Only reason I'm using my fans in push is coz my setup is rather weird, and three of my fans make a hum when in pull. Might change my bottom fans to pull though. see how.

Also, even though on paper it allows for 2x 120mm fans, it does not mean it'll accommodate a 240mm radiator. Sometimes, the space just isn't there. Like unequalteck said, probably gotta remove the HDD cage, unless can find a short (in terms of length) radiator.
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 11 2013, 12:59 AM)
Not much difference, push or pull you probably see around few degrees difference. Its better to go with pull config to make your life easier when it comes to cleaning. Else you can go for both push + pull config like what I did with mine since space isnt an issue. Cleaning however will be a pain in the ass in the future.
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Yeah, this is what people mostly base whether to push or pull on. laugh.gif But can't always have pull. Depends on the fan. I get stupid humming fans when pull.
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(babyskiraz @ Dec 11 2013, 01:08 AM)
precisely, besides push+pull, unless you can sync both fans rpm, its pointless,

1)the 1st fan rpm high, but 2nd fan rpm low, 2nd fan cant push all air from 1st fan quick enough
2)the 2nd fan rpm high, but 1st fan rpm low, 1st fan is unable to pull more air compare to the air 2nd fan is going to pull

even if you sync both fan

1 * 1 amount of air, still = 1
anyway, minor improve everyday makes huge dif in tmr, aint that right? =]
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Actually, it won't matter about the rpm sync. Both still will rotate at similar rated speeds and will catch up with each other all the same. And no, RPMs of SAME fans are NEVER the same. Rated on paper the same, but when you run them, the speeds you get can vary. It's doh.gif

QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 11 2013, 01:08 AM)
Depends on the fans I guess, no issue with corsair & SGT fans for me.
Yeap, actually got people do tests on ocn as well. I think it was martin or bundy...forgot dy but I read their test before. Difference is too small, its better to delid your cpu to gain lower temp.
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My SGTs are fine. Only happens to E-Loops, I think. And maybe a few others.

Martin was the one who tested. Bundy doesn't really test alot of stuff. Mostly simple reviews/unboxings. Martin's more technical.

Delid. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 11 2013, 01:20 AM)
Yeap thats right, only reason why I run push + pull so that I can run at a much lower rpm but still able to push sufficient air through it for optimal silence. But then pump & psu makes more noise than the fan now  doh.gif Need to get RM series psu & not sure about the pump haha. Didn't had noise previously, maybe there is air bubble stucked in it  doh.gif
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RM series. lol. Are they really the quietest in the market now?

Air bubbles in the pump are the worst.

You can always dual pump and put low rpm. brows.gif laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 11 2013, 01:27 AM)
Not sure about the noise but I believe it is since corsair hand pick the components to ensure there is no coil whining components in it. Hard to say la but should be better than my stupid silverstone tongue.gif Dont feel like changing too since made custom cables for it already. Oh well, just go with the flow...

Wont be able to do that, only have space for 1 pump. Pump is under the psu cover so super hard to squeeze another pump in there laugh.gif
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Can always put the pump elsewhere, one pushing, another pulling. HAHA!
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Dec 11 2013, 01:29 AM)
hey guys
is it too much for EX240(rad) with EK DDC 3.2(pump) to cool an overclocked i5 3570k +  overclocked GTX 670?
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Should be alright. Just don't expect much. haha.
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 11 2013, 01:37 AM)
Mana boleh...will spoil the clean aesthetics then hahaha
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Always got mod kits or ways to hide away. Even DDC pumps now got choice of Koolance or EK mod kit. Maybe Bitspower will follow next.
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:40 AM

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damn double posted.

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post Dec 12 2013, 09:16 AM

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Those who like their Scythe GTs better grab them before they start disappearing off the shelves. There's a possibility the GT will be no longer produced and replaced by the grand flex fans.
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post Dec 12 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Dec 12 2013, 10:10 AM)
What's the cheapest price for blue SP 120 O_O?
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Buy from drivenheat
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post Dec 12 2013, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Dec 12 2013, 12:43 PM)
Hi guys, wanna ask any of you have experience with Mayhem White UV Pastel? At first it is like very bright white under uv or without, now it look like pale white after a week or two sad.gif
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Eh. Did Alex/APES build you rig?

As for the colour, pale white or turn yellowish ?

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