i guess this is how marketing works. make the cashback claim process hard enough so people wont bother claiming hahahhaha.

ok, a few months ago nottingham was voted top 5 worst place to live in the UK in a nationwide poll. this is primarily due to the extremely high crime rate. but nottingham university itself is a fairly safe place bcoz of its compound based campus. dont get put off though, notts is one of the top university in the UK. the city however, is a whole different story

what is this obsession of urs over HKU?

although HKU is ranked pretty high on the overall ranking, it doesnt house ALL the top courses in the world. remember that HKU is just one university, as opposed to the entire armada of universities that currently snuggles comfortably in the UK. u cant find more concentration of academicians in one country (per population) than in the UK. and what does that mean? they have better inter-university relationship, hence bigger academic prowess.

and how could u generalize UK degree is crap? what basis did u use this with? we all know a huge majority of UK degrees have become the standard which any university awarding degrees would based their benchmark upon. for example, i know HKU's architecture degree acquires british accreditation for their programme. now if they're THAT good, why request british accreditation at all?

remember that people studying in the UK dont just pick any crap universities here. when we come here, we pick the best. why bother studying here if u're gonna end up in some obscure university that has even worse ranking than UM and USM?

also remember that HKU is one university that is highly sought after by the chinese - everyone wanna go there. not to mention the living cost that annually gets higher and higher, it wont be a surprise that studying in HKU can be as expensive as studying in the UK. prospects? well, UK degrees have worldwide recognition, and definitely dont have any problem infiltrating China. ah, even my friends from UTM didnt have any problems at all working in beijing and shanghai, so why HKU at all? study in malaysia laaa haha...

whoa, what bitterness. getting a little jumpy now are we?

like i said, it depends on what field u're studying in. HKU would probably pawn others in technology courses, but not in arts/humanities, social sciences, lifesciences n bio-medicine or natural sciences. if u graduate from HKU in a lousy course, it doesnt make a big difference bcoz u're not taking advantage of the university's best expertise - technology.

so people have different fields. not everybody is studying technology. for example, i'm studying architecture in sheffield, which is ranked 2nd in the world for architecture. but overall? it's ranked 68. so would i choose HKU bcoz it's ranked 18, eventhough the school is ranked further below sheffield in architecture?

and what is it about ranking anyways? the ranking does not tell u how much ranking #1 is different from #2. the difference of the ranking steps are not of equal value. for all we know, #1 to #10 might be just a fraction of difference, but #11 and #12 is like a world apart. the ranking doesnt tell u that.

anyways, why dont u go and study HKU and tell us how much prestige it has. and perhaps u can brag to all of us of working in China.

the truth?

alaa brader, gua pun alumnus UCL laaa. sikit pun tak heran...

u do seem a tad immature for someone who've lived 15 years in the UK doing this and that. perhaps u've been making things up. maybe after this u'll start name dropping to convince us all .

i'm not even gonna start. i'm quite surprised that it only took 5 posts to prove fyire's points. so long buddy, i'm not gonna involve in ur bitter whining.

lets see... i bought a philips 32" HD-LCD tv for GBP450. there goes my scholarship money... (ok before anyone start getting me on this, i've been saving for a whole year people! )

if u buy from amazon, wouldnt u qualify for a free deliver over GBP15?

i'd recommend logitech 2.1 which i'm using now. i was a firm fan of altec lansing back in malaysia, but i couldnt find any here. so i got a logitech instead, and now i'm not even looking at altec lansing anymore hehehe....

u know, for a 35++ year old guy, u're not that bright. and even worse, u dont seem to understand how arguments work, and happily jumping around the points of others.

and u dismiss all glassy's points just bcoz he didnt study in the UK? ok, i so happened to agree with everything she says, and lets see how u counter-argue "our" arguments.

stop dancing around the points and give some good arguments or GTFO!

and this cock town happens to be one of the best architecture schools in the world, way beyond HKU . even if the best school's in timbuktu, i wont mind telling people about it.

anyways, i'm still waiting for ur arguments. keep wiggling ur way out of predicaments, i'm one who'll stick down until it's done. come on, dont waste time, u still have a lot of convincing to do to all of us here.

is that the best u can do?

u cant even write properly, let alone conjure a proper argument. u cant even score conversation points. and trying to poke me with personal attacks? i'm hardly the person to use that against. since u dont give a shit about what any of us think, why dont u just grow up like u're supposed to and leave? we dont care either.

and finally, i doubt u know anything about universities, let alone good ones, coz all u've been doing is dodging all the arguments, take a few potshots and dodge again. what, is this what turns u on? provoking reactions from people? like i said, lets talk seriously about universities, coz i'd like to see u stand up against what u've said.

if not, do us all a favor: leave and dont come back.

scholarship and a little bit of savings.

RM500k is about £23k per year.

what's the fees for that? lets assume it's about £10k per year. so that leaves u with £13k per year for accommodation and living expenses. £1100 per month is quite good actually. enough go jolly2, clubbing and a little bit of casual shopping.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Jan 21 2008, 09:56 PM

well, engineering courses in sheffield is quite popular nowadays, and i dont mean amongst malaysians . i havent heard any malaysians failing the course, if that's what u mean. so i'm pretty sure it's just as hard (or easy) as most other engineering courses elsewhere.

going with an A-levels get u into 1st year from the very beginning.

with a diploma, u may be able to transfer some credits on excellent subjects. this can shorten the course by a year. meaning u'll start at 2nd year rather than 1st year. but i'm no authority in mechanical engineering in UoS. just email them, they'll get back to u quite quickly.

technically, all 1st year subjects in ANY course are supposed to lay down the very basic building blocks that will later form the knowledge in the upper years. this is very important bcoz students come from various different backgrounds. a-levels students learn variedly different things than those in STPM, IB, matriculation, SAM and other foundation/pre-u in the world. as a course administrator, how do a university level the playing field for everyone? the answer is like i've mentioned before, to lay down the very basic building blocks. when everybody have the same toys to play with, the game will more or less even for everyone.

diploma is basically taking what u learn in 1st year into 3 years. and in the same time includes some applied knowledge so that u'd understand what u've learn by the time u finish diploma. 1st year (degree) doesnt need to include applied knowledge, bcoz u'll learn that in upper years.

so going back to ur question, some modules u've learned in diploma seem below standard. well, i cant judge that. but the school offering degree should be well equipped to answer that issue.

will it be harder for dip students compared to pre-u? in my experience, diploma holders fare much easier than pre-u. remember, diploma holders already have 3 years of experience in that field compared to pre-u holders with only 1 year by the time both of them get into 2nd year degree.

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Added on January 21, 2008, 11:20 pmi have a question to ask on behalf of my sister.

she's studying in glasgow since september last year, and recently she and a bunch of friends found a cheap driving license course. she doesnt have a msian driving license before. so she's asking if she takes this british license, is it valid for use in msia? or should she take an international license instead?

she has atleast another 5-6 years to go.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Jan 21 2008, 11:20 PM

it would be easier to get in touch with them before u embark from malaysia. that way, they could organize amongst those around who're leaving or moving away, pool the stuff u need, and keep it somewhere for u to pick up. most of my friends just throw away stuff they dont need, and never really bothered to sell them, mainly bcoz they dont know to whom they'd wanna sell em to.

oh just do a little research. almost all UK universities has a malaysian student body or club. sometimes it's a combination of malaysia+singapore+brunei club (if there's not many of them). birmingham? i'm sure there's one.

just email the university and ask for the contacts for the body/club.

by coursework, maybe a little harder. this is bcoz the research component is smaller, usually between 30-50% of the entire coursework only.

but by research, i know its easier to get bcoz there are lots of scholarships out there who wants to sponsor students to conduct research on their behalf. this may mean u'd have to take an area of their preference, but it's not always the case.

when i was in UCL, that's how it goes. a bunch of us were doing masters by coursework, and alot of the scholarships (either from the government or third party) prefers a certain amount of research component so that they could "insert" their interests in. the reason is so that they could get mutual benefits from sponsoring u. the university itself on the other hand does give scholarships without having any preferences, however we're competing against ALL masters students from ALL courses. we architects dont fare well in royal rumbles LOL...

anybody going to sheffield malaysian games on 1st march?



if anybody wants the registration form, i can pass it to ya!

well, having lived in london and currently in sheffield, i'd say MUCHO MUCHO DIFFERENTIO.

even back in 2003, i survived in london alone with about GBP200 per month for food, masak sendiri, transport and other stuff. my single room costs about GBP350 per month including gas, electricity, water and internet. today, food might be a little higher, but u cant expect anything lower than GBP400 for a small room. family would definitely cost more.

living in sheffield today i spend about GBP250 for food, transport and other stuff for two per month, GBP380 for a 2 storey, 3 bedroom house with a garden, and about GBP50 for bills (internet, water, gas and electricity).

yes, london's a killer. i couldnt even save enough money to travel . study kat london tapi duduk rumah? WTF man....