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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V55, 2013 NST-MB Poorfag Car of The Year

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Quazacolt
post Nov 28 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Nov 28 2013, 11:19 AM)
FS = Rm150, Filter RM30

SS = RM80 , Filter RM30

Assume service every 5k, SS is RM110 for every 5k, but if you use FS, its RM180 for 5k, but since FS can last 10k whistling.gif
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and from this calculation:
FS = 150 + 60 for 2 filter at 10k km oci
SS = 160 + 60 using 5k km OCI

= brapa liao?

FS good leh? laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(blau-saga @ Nov 28 2013, 11:13 AM)
remembered this was discussed earlier. yet still no scientific proof that the oil filter can't last 10k or is it?
sc also didn't remind about the oil filter change every 5k even on FS oil.
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you want your scientific proof, send to UOA (iinm some people from ZTH or even LYN got go dig, iinm rm300-400 per UOA service)
for the filter, go cut open the metal part and open up the filter when you're disposing it. you then judge for your self (and whatever SCIENTIFIC methods you may want to apply) if that thin sheet of paper element clogged with waste/carbon/dirt/metal shaving etc is still able to provide good filtration/oil flow or not.

remember, most if not all oil filters/lubrication system will have a bypass where by if the filter is clogged, it will be bypassing filtration so that enough lubrication is cyled in your engine
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post Nov 28 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Nov 28 2013, 11:25 AM)
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thanks for your finding notworthy.gif
and yes, it is precisely as per your finding that i steer away from open pods because my car at the end of the day is still a daily driving car. how many km's i put on the track compared to your regular road?

i've had a lot of people poisoning/criticizing for going progressive springs over adjustable and not dumping in high cams/converting manual etc but in the end, i really don't want the car to be spending more time in the workshop than on the road.

btw, i was still rather surprised on your finding on the power band because open pods tend to push the power band to the high rpm range as:
- more air intake (and if you're going faster, temperatures go down as per your finding) or less air restriction definitely helps promote more horsepower. although MCM mythbuster busted it pretty damn well tongue.gif
- as with your finding, if you're going slow (similarly lower rpm) air intake temperatures will be higher and will have lesser condensed oxygen
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post Nov 28 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Nov 28 2013, 11:57 AM)
nod.gif  nod.gif
agree that POD is leaning towards intended for tracks just like racing performance EO.
BUT
not to say cannot put POD for daily use  icon_rolleyes.gif
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or racing EO! icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 28 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Nov 28 2013, 03:20 PM)
Sigh....not feeling very well today....MH.... =.='
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get more rest bro. i just worked from 9am to the next day 12pm (Then went to ea for some DIY lol)
so yea, head a bit light headed. will be sleeping after spamming lyn lolz
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post Nov 28 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2013, 04:26 PM)
or racing EO!  icon_rolleyes.gif

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empayar23 ah
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 28 2013, 04:33 PM)
empayar23 ah
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post Nov 28 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Nov 28 2013, 03:20 PM)
Sigh....not feeling very well today....MH.... =.='
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2013, 04:29 PM)
get more rest bro. i just worked from 9am to the next day 12pm (Then went to ea for some DIY lol)
so yea, head a bit light headed. will be sleeping after spamming lyn lolz
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Hi Bros... notworthy.gif

TitanRev
Yup, get enuf rest with plenty fluids = best care... thumbup.gif
Wat we do 4our kids, we shld do 4ourselves2...
Agreed, Bro? tongue.gif

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post Nov 28 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Nov 28 2013, 02:03 PM)
I only did timing belt replacement.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 28 2013, 02:11 PM)
No...if include those things sure >RM1000.
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hmmm...just called intisari (potong svc wshp) got quoted 480 for timing belt and acond belt change...this must be cheap kot..called another 'outside' workshop and got quoted 700 for timing belt only!
btw i did saw a brochure for service price sometimes ago (cannot find anymore) that say 80k package which include timing belt is slightly more than 1k..i believe it include major svc oso..
waiting gaji to do mine..
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post Nov 28 2013, 05:14 PM

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To put 4ward my own views re OCIs... rolleyes.gif

Feel in view of functions of EO & oil filters generally...
Me wld find a regular & more frequent change of both items wld b MORE beneficial 2any engine... tongue.gif

New clean oil with fresh additives is (IMHO) anytime better than a better EO carrying arnd contaminants 4dbl the period...of course if affordable... icon_rolleyes.gif

Present day philosophy is more inclined 2wards care of the environment...thereby now increasing the OCI & cutting down disposed EO... whistling.gif





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QUOTE(azam_halim @ Nov 28 2013, 05:06 PM)
hmmm...just called intisari (potong svc wshp) got quoted 480 for timing belt and acond belt change...this must be cheap kot..called another 'outside' workshop and got quoted 700 for timing belt only!
btw i did saw a brochure for service price sometimes ago (cannot find anymore) that say 80k package which include timing belt is slightly more than 1k..i believe it include major svc oso..
waiting gaji to do mine..
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change timing belt better change waterpump also
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post Nov 28 2013, 05:16 PM

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haiz..need get use to it on cvt...especially jam
biasa 4 speed auto style..end up moonwalking alot..
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QUOTE(azam_halim @ Nov 28 2013, 05:06 PM)
hmmm...just called intisari (potong svc wshp) got quoted 480 for timing belt and acond belt change...this must be cheap kot..called another 'outside' workshop and got quoted 700 for timing belt only!
btw i did saw a brochure for service price sometimes ago (cannot find anymore) that say 80k package which include timing belt is slightly more than 1k..i believe it include major svc oso..
waiting gaji to do mine..
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Normally...Usually... tongue.gif

Besides TB & FEAD belt change, there is the Bearings, oil seals change....

QUOTE(kausar @ Nov 28 2013, 05:14 PM)
change timing belt better change waterpump also
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Moreover, (as posted by Bro abv) also advisable 2change water pump & gasket...cos same area & a convenience/prevention 4future ie till nxt TB change...

Feel if one intends 2keep the car & b free of undue stress/worries, best 2do all as laid out in manufacturer's schedule...

As alwaz, the owner is the Paymaster & therefore the Decision-maker...true?

Best wishes...
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ps. For such important items, suggest best 2ensure Ori parts are used...they are not items 4savings...
Why?
Consequences can b very very regretful... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Nov 28 2013, 05:16 PM)
haiz..need get use to it on cvt...especially jam
biasa 4 speed auto style..end up moonwalking alot..
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haha, later u will ok wan... if possible come to TT tmr if u ard klang valley or KL... those sifu can teach u how to drive smoothly...
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post Nov 28 2013, 05:34 PM

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u all truely fast wei~
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post Nov 28 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(azam_halim @ Nov 28 2013, 05:06 PM)
hmmm...just called intisari (potong svc wshp) got quoted 480 for timing belt and acond belt change...this must be cheap kot..called another 'outside' workshop and got quoted 700 for timing belt only!
btw i did saw a brochure for service price sometimes ago (cannot find anymore) that say 80k package which include timing belt is slightly more than 1k..i believe it include major svc oso..
waiting gaji to do mine..
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NAH cool2.gif

IINM last 6 items (starting from timing belt) in the last column + water pump with gasket ?
coolkwc ericmaxman

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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Nov 28 2013, 05:34 PM)
u all truely fast wei~
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where got fassstt lerr....

all seeelllooowwwppppoookkkeeeee ooonnnlllyyyy mmmaaarrrr~~~~!!! whistling.gif whistling.gif
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My friend BLM had this lighted up while driving, send to SC they say no issue, oil level normal. Is it really normal?
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Nov 28 2013, 05:16 PM)
haiz..need get use to it on cvt...especially jam
biasa 4 speed auto style..end up moonwalking alot..
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Ape tu moonwalk? blink.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 28 2013, 05:25 PM)
haha, later u will ok wan... if possible come to TT tmr if u ard klang valley or KL... those sifu can teach u how to drive smoothly...
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Will stickers be ready tomorrow? not rushing you, just wanna know.
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Nov 28 2013, 05:54 PM)
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My friend BLM had this lighted up while driving, send to SC they say no issue, oil level normal. Is it really normal?
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Sometimes if the engine bay undercarriage kena air it will throw up the engine oil warning as well hmm.gif

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