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post Jun 21 2006, 01:38 PM, updated 20y ago

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Thinking of spending some money to get these. My main focus now is Diet, i need to do alot of exercises at my abdominal.

What brands do you recommend? I only bought dumb bells before, and the quality is just so so, i prefer something good, but not too good (too expensive).

- For beginner like me, how heavy should I get those dumb bells? They have 5kg, 10, 20kg, hmmm. I weigh at 120+ Kg/6 foot.

- What about bar bells? Should I get those plates as well? I just need the bar to do some exercises for now.

- Bench? Some bench can be adjusted to diagonal form, some is only flat. Which one do you recommend.

- Exercise balls? This may sound stupid, does all the balls have the same sizes? doh.gif

Oh My, to get these 4 things, how much roughly? sweat.gif unsure.gif

Please state the brand as well, Thanks. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by zeist: Jun 21 2006, 02:04 PM
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post Jun 21 2006, 02:16 PM

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i advice u go for jogging instead ..
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post Jun 21 2006, 02:19 PM

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may be u can try out some gym before u buying those equipment coz u might get demoralize over sumtimes, i m not begin negative here, just an advice.... like may be u can try out the gym for one mths and u feel like u r addicted to it then... go ahead buy those gadgets, i bet u will feel better tat way. smile.gif cheers
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QUOTE(patrickyeo21 @ Jun 21 2006, 02:16 PM)
i advice u go for jogging instead ..
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QUOTE(patrickyeo21 @ Jun 21 2006, 02:16 PM)
i advice u go for jogging instead ..
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i advice you not advice jogging instead, but advice him on what he asked you to advice him on to begin with.

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Thinking of spending some money to get these. My main focus now is Diet, i need to do alot of exercises at my abdominal.

What brands do you recommend? I only bought dumb bells before, and the quality is just so so, i prefer something good, but not too good (too expensive).

- For beginner like me, how heavy should I get those dumb bells? They have 5kg, 10, 20kg, hmmm. I weigh at 120+ Kg/6 foot.

- What about bar bells? Should I get those plates as well? I just need the bar to do some exercises for now.

- Bench? Some bench can be adjusted to diagonal form, some is only flat. Which one do you recommend.

- Exercise balls? This may sound stupid, does all the balls have the same sizes? 

Oh My, to get these 4 things, how much roughly?  

Please state the brand as well, Thanks.


i think most brands you see nowadays in retail shops are of decent quality, get something that feels and looks solid, i personally prefer metal made dumbells over the synthetic ones.

- for the beginner, try the weights out at the shop and see what fits you best, have one of the shop attendents recommend something for you.

- barbells, eh if you only need the bar for now get the bar, you can always get the bells later.

- bench, no idea dont bench, no space for it ... to many computers tongue.gif

- exercise balls, ... dont have one, when i was looking at one my friend who came with me kicked it around and we got chased out of the shop.

- price, my weights (25lbs) were about RM40-50 per piece, got on promotion so i got the other side free. shop around, its amazing how much you can save during a sale. brand, cant remember the sticker came off a few years ago doh.gif

also... holy crap 120kg at 6ft? typo? thats nearly 265lbs... shocking.gif

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post Jun 21 2006, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 21 2006, 04:10 PM)
i advice you not advice jogging instead, but advice him on what he asked you to advice him on to begin with.
i think most brands you see nowadays in retail shops are of decent quality, get something that feels and looks solid, i personally prefer metal made dumbells over the synthetic ones.

- for the beginner, try the weights out at the shop and see what fits you best, have one of the shop attendents recommend something for you.

- barbells, eh if you only need the bar for now get the bar, you can always get the bells later.

- bench, no idea dont bench, no space for it ... to many computers  tongue.gif

- exercise balls, ... dont have one, when i was looking at one my friend who came with me kicked it around and we got chased out of the shop.

- price, my weights (25lbs) were about RM40-50 per piece, got on promotion so i got the other side free. shop around, its amazing how much you can save during a sale. brand, cant remember the sticker came off a few years ago  doh.gif
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Why buy an exercise ball when you've already got 2 between your legs?



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post Jun 21 2006, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 21 2006, 04:10 PM)
i advice you not advice jogging instead, but advice him on what he asked you to advice him on to begin with.
i think most brands you see nowadays in retail shops are of decent quality, get something that feels and looks solid, i personally prefer metal made dumbells over the synthetic ones.

- for the beginner, try the weights out at the shop and see what fits you best, have one of the shop attendents recommend something for you.

- barbells, eh if you only need the bar for now get the bar, you can always get the bells later.

- bench, no idea dont bench, no space for it ... to many computers  tongue.gif

- exercise balls, ... dont have one, when i was looking at one my friend who came with me kicked it around and we got chased out of the shop.

- price, my weights (25lbs) were about RM40-50 per piece, got on promotion so i got the other side free. shop around, its amazing how much you can save during a sale. brand, cant remember the sticker came off a few years ago  doh.gif

also... holy crap 120kg at 6ft? typo? thats nearly 265lbs...  shocking.gif
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Maybe I should go walk around, not sure places like Tesco, Carrefour are the cheapest.

Yes, i'm over-weight. sad.gif sweat.gif , that's why need to do something about it. flex.gif

Thanks.
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QUOTE(patrickyeo21 @ Jun 21 2006, 02:16 PM)
i advice u go for jogging instead ..
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I prefer swimming more than jogging. flex.gif
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post Jun 21 2006, 07:10 PM

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dude, can you post a pic of urself
you sound, gigantic
anyway, swim, weightlif anything ler.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 21 2006, 06:35 PM)
I prefer swimming more than jogging.  flex.gif
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Because swimming is easier right?
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jun 21 2006, 07:10 PM)
dude, can you post a pic of urself
you sound, gigantic
anyway, swim, weightlif anything ler.
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Sure, when I have the digicam with me again, but not now. Maybe next week.

I don't look that 'kind' of fat.
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QUOTE(bambambam @ Jun 21 2006, 07:11 PM)
Because swimming is easier right?
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Actually I like both, but due to my toe skins rubbing each other, it becomes redish and the skin peeling off. So I decided not to go jogging that often anymore, sensitive toes.

Yes, you can say that is easier. But swimming uses more strenght, and after you get out from the pool, whole body will feel very heavy and abit dizzy. laugh.gif doh.gif

Jogging = Only legs

Swimming = Everything. flex.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 21 2006, 07:17 PM)
Actually I like both, but due to my toe skins rubbing each other, it becomes redish and the skin peeling off. So I decided not to go jogging that often anymore, sensitive toes.

Yes, you can say that is easier. But swimming uses more strenght, and after you get out from the pool, whole body will feel very heavy and abit dizzy.  laugh.gif  doh.gif

Jogging = Only legs

Swimming = Everything.  flex.gif  thumbup.gif
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swimming > jogging, like you said full body work, also theres no worry about joint impact issues you get with jogging especially with the extra weight.

feeling dizzy after swimming isnt actually normal... it could be due to water entering your ear causing an inbalance of your inner ear(i get this, earplugs fix it), it could be other things.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 21 2006, 07:35 PM)
swimming > jogging, like you said full body work, also theres no worry about joint impact issues you get with jogging especially with the extra weight.

feeling dizzy after swimming isnt actually normal... it could be due to water entering your ear causing an inbalance of your inner ear(i get this, earplugs fix it), it could be other things.
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Oh yea, how much does the earplug cost? It could be the water that go into my ear. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 21 2006, 07:17 PM)
Actually I like both, but due to my toe skins rubbing each other, it becomes redish and the skin peeling off. So I decided not to go jogging that often anymore, sensitive toes.
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i used to morning jog till my nipple bleeds. dem sakit i tell you. and geli.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 21 2006, 07:42 PM)
Oh yea, how much does the earplug cost? It could be the water that go into my ear.  rclxub.gif
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its cheap, a few ringgit, check a sports equipment shop which sells swimming gear. you want to get something of high quality cause it sucks to have something break up in your ear requiring a trip to the hospital to get it out, trust me its not fun.

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 21 2006, 07:44 PM)
i used to morning jog till my nipple bleeds. dem sakit i tell you. and geli.
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W...... t........ f?
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lol. your nipple hardens in the morning when it gets too cold. and your cotton shirt is pretty abrasive when it gets wet. shi shet shi shet. ooooh.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 21 2006, 07:35 PM)
swimming > jogging, like you said full body work, also theres no worry about joint impact issues you get with jogging especially with the extra weight.

feeling dizzy after swimming isnt actually normal... it could be due to water entering your ear causing an inbalance of your inner ear(i get this, earplugs fix it), it could be other things.
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I tot it only happens at first. Then later okay adi 1?
It don't happen to me no more. However, if I don't swim for a long time, and I swim again, one whole day penat.
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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 21 2006, 07:44 PM)
i used to morning jog till my nipple bleeds. dem sakit i tell you. and geli.
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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 21 2006, 09:39 PM)
lol. your nipple hardens in the morning when it gets too cold. and your cotton shirt is pretty abrasive when it gets wet. shi shet shi shet. ooooh.
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um... wtf? bleeding nipples from cotton shirt + jogging? wtf? got such thing? wtf? did i say wtf? wtf?

err try a polyester shirt.

QUOTE(.:DaMan:. @ Jun 21 2006, 09:44 PM)
tell me u're a chick ...tell me u're a chick...*imagining*
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jun 21 2006, 11:24 PM)
I tot it only happens at first. Then later okay adi 1?
It don't happen to me no more. However, if I don't swim for a long time, and I swim again, one whole day penat.
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depends on the person, apparently it happens more often to people who also suffer from vertigo, it still happens to me and i've been swimming for a couple of decades.

i used to swim 3-5km every weekend for 2 years, i would still be sore the next day, definitely dont have that issue with running... 5mile runs in the morning no problems. swimming is definitely more exhausting than running.

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I think everybody has no problems exercising.
I can jog 30 minutes every day.

It's just the DIET.
Damn.
So hard to hold yourself when it comes to eating.

Some suggest went for operation.
Restriction operation for obesity..Stomach stapling.

For bodybuilders eating won't be a problem right? tongue.gif
More eat...even better...bigger muscle.

Anyone has a method to hold appetite...PLEASE SHARE cry.gif

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 22 2006, 12:18 AM)
I think everybody has no problems exercising.
I can jog 30 minutes every day.

It's just the DIET.
Damn.
So hard to hold yourself when it comes to eating.

Some suggest went for operation.
Restriction operation for obesity..Stomach stapling.

For bodybuilders eating won't be a problem right?  tongue.gif
More eat...even better...bigger muscle.

Anyone has a method to hold appetite...PLEASE SHARE  cry.gif
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its all about self discipline, screw surgery, screw supplements which suppress apetite, get a roommate or family member to rabbit punch you everytime you eat outside of your pre-set rules. he/she'll get a good workout beating you senseless and you'll lose weight. win win situation and its free.

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 21 2006, 01:38 PM)
Thinking of spending some money to get these. My main focus now is Diet, i need to do alot of exercises at my abdominal.

What brands do you recommend? I only bought dumb bells before, and the quality is just so so, i prefer something good, but not too good (too expensive).

- For beginner like me, how heavy should I get those dumb bells? They have 5kg, 10, 20kg, hmmm. I weigh at 120+ Kg/6 foot.

- What about bar bells? Should I get those plates as well? I just need the bar to do some exercises for now.

- Bench? Some bench can be adjusted to diagonal form, some is only flat. Which one do you recommend.

- Exercise balls? This may sound stupid, does all the balls have the same sizes?  doh.gif

Oh My, to get these 4 things, how much roughly?  sweat.gif  unsure.gif

Please state the brand as well, Thanks.  thumbup.gif
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- For dumbbells I use HealthLife(green weights) and MaXX Fitness(grey weights). My dad bought them some donkey years ago so I don't know how much they cost. But they function fine for me. A pair of good training gloves are vital though -- dumbbells have a coarse grip and can hurt when lifting heavy weights.

- How heavy a beginner can lift varies with each person. Try a weight and see if u can perform 12 repetitions(reps) of an exercise with it. If the last few reps are difficult enough to make you want to stop, that's the weight you should start out with.

- Personally, I don't use barbells. Maybe it's the scare that if I perform barbell exercises now I will stunt however little growth I still have in me(I'll be 20 this year). However, pretty much all barbell exercises can be substituted with a form of dumbbell exercise(and you save costs on buying a barbell and plates for it too!).

- Get a bench that can be adjusted into an incline, flat, or decline position. If possible, get one with a leg curl extension also.

- I don't use exercise balls(not really necessary I think) tongue.gif

To lose weight, cardiovascular exercises(jogging, swimming, cycling) and diet are the keys. Weight training will aid you by building muscle which ups your metabolism(muscle burns calories by themselves also). To train your abs, crunches(a form of sit up, but you don't raise your upper body so much) can help.

To know more on exercises and weight training, refer here.

Glad to know that you're taking the initiative to make yourself healthier. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 21 2006, 07:44 PM)
its cheap, a few ringgit, check a sports equipment shop which sells swimming gear. you want to get something of high quality cause it sucks to have something break up in your ear requiring a trip to the hospital to get it out, trust me its not fun.
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Thanks for that piece of advise, sounds scary, just like someone got choke while eating durian. shocking.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 22 2006, 12:18 AM)
I think everybody has no problems exercising.
I can jog 30 minutes every day.

It's just the DIET.
Damn.
So hard to hold yourself when it comes to eating.

Some suggest went for operation.
Restriction operation for obesity..Stomach stapling.

For bodybuilders eating won't be a problem right?  tongue.gif
More eat...even better...bigger muscle.

Anyone has a method to hold appetite...PLEASE SHARE  cry.gif
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IMO, not only the food you consume, the time you go to bed and wake up too. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sidewinder1009 @ Jun 22 2006, 05:01 PM)
- For dumbbells I use HealthLife(green weights) and MaXX Fitness(grey weights). My dad bought them some donkey years ago so I don't know how much they cost. But they function fine for me. A pair of good training gloves are vital though -- dumbbells have a coarse grip and can hurt when lifting heavy weights.

- How heavy a beginner can lift varies with each person. Try a weight and see if u can perform 12 repetitions(reps) of an exercise with it. If the last few reps are difficult enough to make you want to stop, that's the weight you should start out with.

- Personally, I don't use barbells. Maybe it's the scare that if I perform barbell exercises now I will stunt however little growth I still have in me(I'll be 20 this year). However, pretty much all barbell exercises can be substituted with a form of dumbbell exercise(and you save costs on buying a barbell and plates for it too!).

- Get a bench that can be adjusted into an incline, flat, or decline position. If possible, get one with a leg curl extension also.

- I don't use exercise balls(not really necessary I think) tongue.gif

To lose weight, cardiovascular exercises(jogging, swimming, cycling) and diet are the keys. Weight training will aid you by building muscle which ups your metabolism(muscle burns calories by themselves also). To train your abs, crunches(a form of sit up, but you don't raise your upper body so much) can help.

To know more on exercises and weight training, refer here.

Glad to know that you're taking the initiative to make yourself healthier.  rclxms.gif
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Thanks, maybe I'm getting a set of 10 - 15kg dumb bells, they usually have 2 pieces inside, the one I bought last time was 2.5kg and 5kg. I wanna get 5kg and 10 kg.

I think I'll get a bench and a set of dumb bells first. Will keep you all updated when I bought those two. flex.gif cool.gif

Yea, i learn all those exercises from bodybuilding.com tongue.gif , very useful site. thumbup.gif

I might also consider getting a Bicycle. I think that Bicycle shop boss can still recognise me. laugh.gif tongue.gif

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if you have knee problems or think you have knee problems, skip the bike. cycling is worse than jogging for your knees.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 22 2006, 05:50 PM)
if you have knee problems or think you have knee problems, skip the bike. cycling is worse than jogging for your knees.
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Actually, I think it's the other way round. Jogging is harder on the knees compared to the bike.
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QUOTE(sidewinder1009 @ Jun 22 2006, 07:28 PM)
Actually, I think it's the other way round. Jogging is harder on the knees compared to the bike.
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nope, bikes are worse for the knees or atleast thats what my orthopedist tells me. something about the angle of the knee and all that.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 22 2006, 05:50 PM)
if you have knee problems or think you have knee problems, skip the bike. cycling is worse than jogging for your knees.
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No problem with the knee all this while. In fact, i've planned to go to the foot massage centre once every month, to have some relaxing foot massage. tongue.gif

About RM40 for 40 minutes.

Can get some advise from the 'Sifu' and good for the foot and body as well. thumbup.gif

 

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