I was replying to your earlier post which said something like 'white is more worth it' which I take to mean more resale demand which I don't plan to do. I don't want my desk to look like a playground and prefer to keep the black colour scheme. Maybe those who collect colourful keycaps don't mind but I do. And black keeps better with dirt and dust. Thanks for the tip.

zero and zero shine made in Chine,
shine series made in Taiwan, as far as I know..

Great to know that we are typing in the same layout. Cheers for that! Back to the topic, I do believe that any PBT can prevent the shiny surface after months of abuse. The only reason I went for thick PBT is for its surface feel which is supposedly much more superior than non-thick variant. With this being said, it does cost almost twice as much than the non-thick PBT. Sad that the items is still yet to arrive, otherwise I could have posted some pictures here already. 

P/S: I don't like the feel of ABS from the moment I touch them. It felt so, well, plastic. 

Great to hear that you are ordering a set of PBT just as I do. Funny that we are both still waiting for it en route. Lets cross our finger and see whoever ones arrived first. I believed you are purchasing them from Taobao?

Well I'm not a clerk so typing for the whole day is never a case for me. However, I do type often for research paper, note taking and online articles. I'm really aiming to reach that 150 WPM average speed on Dvorak though XD. Still 50% more to go.

ABS plastic is very durable against chemicals including oils. I don't think it got corroded at all but got covered a little thick with oils. You just have to wipe it down with rubbing alcohol or make regular wipedowns with soap and water.
The problem with pbt for me is that the lettering have to be darker than the keycap colour so there will be no black keycaps except for blanks.

Well getting shiny is one thing but the other poster mentioned corrosion which means the key caps would literally break down. My stuff gets cleaned without being damaged and I don't leave thick gunk around to marinate for months.

Do taobao agents normally repack goods (to make a single bigger parcel) in their warehouse to save on shipping costs? I've been planning to get a few other things while I'm at it.

Nope, our ultra acidic sweats from fingers never failed to made ABS keycaps to gone shiny after a few weeks/months of usage. Take a look at those typists/gamers around you, sure few keys on their keyboards are shiny and oily already.

No matter how you wipe it, the texture had already gone. If you are really cheapskate despo adventurous, you can try to use wet sand paper and sand it yourself, though till now, no much ppl actually succeed in creating back a suitable texture with sand paper on worn ABS keycaps.

If ABS is more durable, PBT or POM will not be having positions in market out there already.

Also, nope, PBT didn't really had the "lettering have to be darker than keycaps" rule (or you actually mean to say dye-sub?). Keycool grey pbt having no problem to laser white legends onto it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=keycool+gre...ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ

Somemore, swiss studio manage to dyesub lighter color on pbt keycaps while making the background black.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=26787264995

In conclusion, PBT can do everything that ABS can do, even the doubleshot (ikbc just succeed to make doubleshot pbt recently), while ABS can't do certain thing such as dyeing, dyesub, better resistant to worn and so on due to their lower melting temperature and durability. Though, I do agree that pitch black pbt is extremely rare or almost extinct out there in the market (thats why there are imsto pitch black thick pbt bulk order ongoing now). But then, since you are looking for printed black keycaps, ikbc fit in your requirements just nice. IKBC do offer white on black doubleshot pbt, and if you are lucky, you may order even other color on black.

p/s: This post made me sounds like ABS hater... I still love ABS plastic, they are perfect for lego and keyboard case. But for things like keycaps, they lack in durability, which made them awkward to be used in long run.

But then, since those who use the silicon keyboard protector thing eventually still do experience shiny keycaps after a long time, I suggested that the process of shining abs keycaps is unavoidable. It is the pressure of your finger that worn out the original matte texture of the abs keycaps?

BTW, IINM, last time there are a guy in geekhack which claimed he can literally worn and broke abs/pbt in a short time due to his extremely intensive typing... He then tried to resolve to metal keycaps, but I not too sure on the ending.

Guys, those who use dvorak layout, how do you guys play game? I agree that QWERTY mostly use my left hand.

p/s: The iKBC doubleshot pbt modifiers set is available in taobao already, can start to pm cloud your taobao agents already.

I so envy you.

Yeah, so I don't need expensive rig.

anybody here got anything from black friday or cyber monday sales?
huh, anybody?

soon! 

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btw, anyone know this news CHERRY presents the first MX keyswitch specially engineered for RGB Multicolor Illumination.

http://www.play3r.net/news/cherry-presents...r-illumination/

^ they called it as MX RGB switches, but im  anyone can briefly explain it?

Bang, lu terlupa the point - "truck and Lamborghini proof"

thank for suggestion guys

used to have cm quickfire pro then sell it because dont have palm rest

right now use razer deathstalker...so now thinking back to mechkeyboard

btw any other suggetion

Since V1.

B4 that not poison enough to pull the trigger on a keyboard cost over RM300.