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 Cyberjaya 2015, Why U buy Cyberjaya? v4

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post Aug 27 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Aug 27 2015, 09:56 AM)
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What's this project?
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Aug 27 2015, 12:48 PM)
That's Roppongi Cyberjaya.

http://www.roppongi.my/masterplan.html
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Looking at the master plan everything seems to be just "proposed"... is anything confirmed?
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post Aug 27 2015, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Aug 27 2015, 01:00 PM)
Beautiful proposal.

At least we know it is not some badly planned complex.
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Interesting proposal... but will it look good to have a block for young people and a block for elderly?
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post Aug 27 2015, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Aug 27 2015, 01:34 PM)
MM2H eyes 70,000 HK retirees
2014-09-17 18:24
HONG KONG (China), Sept 17 (Bernama) -- The Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) programme targets over 70,000 Hong Kong retirees. A MM2H agency, Aubella Sdn Bhd, has signed a joint venture agreement with Rainbow Credit Union, Hong Kong, to offer a new retirement solution and property investment in Cyberjaya.
The development offers investors and retirees a 10-year social visit visa as well as a unit of freehold property in Cyberjaya at an affordable RM500,000 (USD168,000) for a fixed period of five years.
Aubella General Manager Vincent Fong said at the programme launch and agreement signing ceremony that investors nearing retirement age could rent out their units as this offers a steady passive income.
"In the long run, the net worth of the property will grow due to capital value appreciation," he said in reply to a question from a potential investor at the launch held at the Malaysia Healthcare Travel Council (MHTC) office in Wan Chai here today.
The agreement signing was witnessed by Max Wong Wai Khuen, Regional Director (East Asia) of MHTC, an initiative by Malaysia's Health Ministry to develop and promote the medical tourism industry.
At the same occasion, Aubella also signed a memorandum of understanding with MHTC to unveil this new package to retirement investors. Also present were Rainbow Credit Union Director Terry Liew and BND Global Development Sdn Bhd Chief Technology Officer Seow Gim Shen, the project developer's representative.
Rainbow Credit Union is an international financial cooperative that encourages members to fully utilise their resources and manage their finances.
Liew said Malaysia was chosen for its climate and medical facilities as well as for its human, cultural and geographical environment.
The number of medical tourists to Malaysia has grown 226 per cent over the past six years, from 341,000 in 2007 to 770,000 in 2013, Wong said, pointing out that medical services in Malaysia are value for money, with no discrimination of foreign patients.
The new development is named 'Roppongi @ Cyberjaya' after a district in Tokyo. The concept integrates work, dining, shopping, entertainment and education all within a high-density, high-intensity yet green urban environment.
Seow said the 'Roppongi @ Cyberjaya' will be the first 'micro-climate township' in Malaysia and is expected to be completed in 2019.
"Roppongi will support a diverse population. Our civic facilities will complete the balance in lifestyle and convenience for all residents," he added.
Malaysia has been ranked as the top retirement destination in Asia by internationalliving.com for 2013 and 2014, while the Longstay Foundation of Japan rated it as the most popular long-stay destination for retiring Japanese for the eighth consecutive year since 2006.
- See more at: http://www.mysinchew.com/node/101809?tid=4...h.d8vDuCup.dpuf
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I don't know how our second home can compete with other western country in terms of benefit. It is not a PR, it only last for 10 years, you cant work, you can only spend money here. So we are only expecting people with no productivity to come?

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Aug 27 2015, 06:03 PM)
They come and spend money for house rental, foods, health care, and etc no good to economy? Expecting them to flight the jobs market? hmm.gif
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Depends on what aspect you are viewing this from. Are you viewing this from an individual perspective or country as a whole?

Singapore is as strong as they are today not just because of Singaporean, but they are clever enough to import top notch talent to the country and given PR or citizenship to them. Simple example:
1. Malaysia top 0.5% primary students are given ASEAN scholarship to study in Singapore and they never come back. rclxms.gif
2. UEC 5A students cant study in public Uni but can study medicine in Singapore and they never come back. brows.gif
3. Singapore wants to win a gold medal in Olympics so they imported china table tennis players. Well... they got silver. Quite close. rclxm9.gif


But Malaysia is the direct opposite. Our government don't welcome foreign talents. Foreign professionals find it hard to get work permit, don't even talk about PR. But a bangla or indon will easily get IC. drool.gif

So in a way Malaysian Govt has done a great job protecting our job market, because no Malaysians want to do the low level work so we got the foreign worker to do it. No competition. High level job is reserved for Malaysians because foreign talents can't get work permit to work here. No competition. thumbup.gif

Yes there is no competition! But .... That's what make Malaysia NOT COMPETITIVE! rclxub.gif


IMHO.

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Aug 27 2015, 01:47 PM)
Good observation skill.

Is this concept proven else where?
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I don't think so, that's why everything is just under "proposed". hmm.gif
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Aug 26 2015, 02:28 PM)
let's see in few years time, can't compare last time since it's limited choice and mostly cater for students. Not many people willing to stay in same building with majority students.

the good landed property will bring in quite a bit of family to stay in long run. let the market settles, flippers flip or burnt. Eventually, there will be adjustment and distinction between areas suitable for family to stay. For Chinese crowd, we'll know after the Chinese School opens  smile.gif
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Wow... i didn't know that after so many years Cyber is just starting to open a chinese primary school! Good effort in building the school, but no wonder the progress in Cyber is slow.... sweat.gif
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...for-new-campus/


Another project that i have invested in Seremban (Bandar Sri Sendayan), the township was only 6 years in development, their first chinese primary school will have its first intake in Jan 2016. No fund raising needed, state government donated the land and developer bear the cost of construction.

http://www.mainprop.com/2014/09/sjk-c-pari...i-sendayan.html
http://www.mchb.com.my/images/news/100215_NanYang.pdf

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Aug 27 2015, 07:42 PM)
Sell cheap cheap - many ppl but not classy later.
Sell premium - many ppl can't afford and slow development smile.gif
So - think carefully before investing in cyber lo.
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Is more about township planning... there must be reason(s) why cyber is moving slower than other areas.... just wondering! hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Aug 27 2015, 07:56 PM)
it doesnt matter slow or fast.. as long as there is progression...

sri sendayan is nice... but have you hear what the earlier buyer facing? there are lotsa major defect in theirs house.. every developments will have some defective flaws, but I'm considering sri sendayan as serious flaws..

yes, you have a chinese school ready in 2016... and what else do you have there? Uni? MNC? shopping? landscape?
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Yes, the developer admitted their defeats with the earlier phase projects and they have committed to improve the quality for the newer phase. Of course i hope they keep their promise.

The township is 5230 acres which consist of residential, commercial, education and industrial in the master plan.

It doesn't have much to show yet, it is still a fairly new township... but eventually they will have all the things you mentioned above.

I am sure you heard of the Malaysian Vision Valley, Sendayan is sitting in the heart of it with its own TechValley. There are already MNCs there, all the land have been sold and hopefully more MNCs are coming in.

http://www.techvalley.com.my/

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...low-reputation/

http://www.mainprop.com/2015/05/how-big-is...-announced.html

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QUOTE(angrysnail @ Aug 27 2015, 08:16 PM)
Hahaha..maybe u need a guide..u can go to propwall look for serin residency,read the analysis of cyberjaya story.Then u will understand why..
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Woow... really alot of story behind.... thanks for the guide! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Aug 27 2015, 08:24 PM)
Then lets wait and see... I think its a big risk, due to political instability.. anytime will be call off.. too many Vision valley, Silicon valley, Klang valley, Cactus valley,
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True... i didn't bet much on the Vision Valley, too big a project, too big a vision, too big a risk.

But Sendayan Techvalley is already in operation. All the land parcel has been sold and some MNCs have moved in. Should be good for the development of the township.
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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Aug 27 2015, 08:49 PM)
besides, where is bandar sri sendayan? In selangor or in N.Sembilan?
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it is in Seremban.
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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Aug 27 2015, 08:54 PM)
i saw 1 on map just below putrajaya, bandar sri sendayan, that 1 is different 1 is it?

the bandar seri sendayan you talking about is near to seremban 2?
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Yes near Seremban 2. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Aug 27 2015, 08:58 PM)
like this is in a big big big problem...

Mah Sing to rescind Seremban land acquisition

http://www.theedgeproperty.com/my/content/...and-acquisition
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Mah Sing wants to revoke a land acquisition contract in seremban.... Not sure how this is related to Sendayan. hmm.gif

Please enlighten me. smile.gif
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QUOTE(MakeYouHappy @ Aug 27 2015, 09:17 PM)
Malaysia couldn't even retain its top notch talent. To import more foreign talent will definitely further increase the nation's unemployment rate. tongue.gif
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That's why it depends on how you view this issue? Are you only worrying about your own rice bowl or the country's development? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(MakeYouHappy @ Aug 27 2015, 09:17 PM)
Malaysia couldn't even retain its top notch talent. To import more foreign talent will definitely further increase the nation's unemployment rate. tongue.gif
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Actually Malaysian's unemployment rate is super low, 3.1% only, we have serious labour shortage problem. The employers usually have to put up with the crap of the staff and compromise with low quality of work because they are afraid to lose their staff for being too straight.


Try to behave the same way you are in Singapore, HK, China.... immediately out you go, coz a long queue is waiting for your job.

Again, we are where we are because we choose to be.... Non Competitive! doh.gif


http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ysia/?style=biz


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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Aug 27 2015, 09:23 PM)
let say u stay in a SemiD and your neighbour is empty house.. overgrown with tall grass and wild tress.. what will happen to your property?
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Ghost town is bad i know. How is Mah Sing's case related to Sendayan? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Aug 27 2015, 09:33 PM)
MM2H will be interesting.

Lots of application from foreigners. Govt will lower the barrier.

Even Singaporeans are applying but most prefer Penang.
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Given the heavenly environment we have, MM2H could have done much better with a twit of the policy!
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QUOTE(MakeYouHappy @ Aug 27 2015, 09:17 PM)
Malaysia couldn't even retain its top notch talent. To import more foreign talent will definitely further increase the nation's unemployment rate. tongue.gif
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Actually your statement is contradicting itself.

We are losing talent and hence losing labour.... this should reduce unemployment rate. Even if we import foreigners to fill the vacancy then it will only be neutral. How will it "further" increase unemployment rate? hmm.gif

As it is now, any tom dick and harry is hired to fill the position... No choice cry.gif cry.gif

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Interesting studies on unemployment rate:

Malaysia: 3.1%
HK: 8.5%
China: 4%
Singapore: 2%

So if we analyse these figures, Malaysia as we all agreed would be the country that lost most of its talents, but our unemployment rate is lower than HK and China.

Singapore imported most foreign talents, has an unemployment rate of only 2%. Which means bringing in Foreign Talents didn't put Singaporean out of the job market.

So what is the conclusion?

My conclusion is:

Malaysia are not selective in hiring staff hence unemployment rate is low. cry.gif

HK is highly selective in hiring staff hence unemployment rate it high. sweat.gif

China is also selective in hiring people but they have enough jobs to put the unemployment rate low. flex.gif

Singapore is highly selective in hiring but their citizen is able to compete with foreign talents! thumbup.gif


IMHO

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/hong-kong/unemployment-rate

http://www.statista.com/statistics/270320/...-rate-in-china/

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/busine...in/2017174.html

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