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Sentinel92
post Jan 5 2014, 02:59 PM

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Hello people. I need recommendations for HDD, SSD and a PSU. Doing a major overhaul and pretty Much thrown out my crappy old components. I already have the following specs

Intel Core i7-4770K
Asrock Z87 Fatal1ty Professional
Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz CL9 16GB
Powercolor R9 290X OC Edition
NZXT Switch 810 Ultra Tower
Lite On Blu Ray Burner.
Creative X-Fi Titanium Professional

So what brands or models would you recommend for a fast yet decent in value SSD, a long lasting HDD, and a PSU that can handle 290X crossfire in the future? Budget is around RM1.8K or lesser if possible.

And any liquid cooling enthusiasts here? The liquid cooling club thread seems to be non responsive, so just wanna ask, is it better to spend a bit more for full WC like a XSPC D5 Photon AX360mm kit, or should I just get a NZXT Kraken X60 for CPU and Kraken X40/G10 for GPU, or is there anyone here who can recommend a list of components for a single loop GPU/CPU wc setup.

Thanks. =)

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post Jan 5 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 03:10 PM)
Again, mind clarify on what you want to overhaul?

HDD, SSD and PSU?

SSD - Samsung, Plextor or Intel should be fine

HDD - normal WD blue not long lasting enough for you?

PSU - Proper 750W 80+ gold should be ok, but to be safe, try get minimumly 850W 80+ gold. CM V series got it, but i think local distributor didn't bring the 850W model. Then get the 1000W model should also be fine, not too much pricier also.
For liquid cooler, I no idea bout it. But recently, I saw some article comment bout the inadequate design of Kraken G10, cause the VRM is not cooled, hence resulting exceptionally high temperature on VRM...
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Sorry my bad. I'm overhauling my entire system, and I'm pretty much 80% done except for the SSD, HDD and PSU. So yeah, just the three components.

As for SSD, I guess the Samsung 840 Evo 250GB should be fine then, since it's also cheaper than equivalent plextors or intel ones.

For HDD, I'm not sure as seagate has some pretty food stuff as well. I'm just looking at something that can run a long time unlike my older WDs which decided to die off after 3 years.

For PSU, hmmm, I've read that CM V models are basically rebadged of Seasonics. Will take a look at the V1000 model.

The G10 does have issue with VRM cooling, but some sticky thermal tape and chipset heatsinks is all that is needed to bring down VRM temps to around 50°+

No worries. No rush anyways. Wanna carefully look around at components before I commit, especially WCing. And seriously, thanks for the feedback. =)

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post Jan 5 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 03:23 PM)
HDD is all about luck, if you lucky, you get one that virtually can last forever, if you bad luck, RMA is like your daily routine... Even you turn seagate, it also won't guarantee that it won't fail in 3 years time.

Yeah, the V1000 is pretty cheap at Viewnet, RM649. Probably can ask for more discount if pay by cash.
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Yeouch. Feels like playing Russian roulette. Hahaha. But I can say I'm looking towards WD Caviar Red 1TB, or if have extra the Seagate Constellation SATAIII 1TB.

Hmmmm, that's a damn good price for a 1000W. Will definitely look into it

Thanks so much man. =)
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post Jan 5 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jan 5 2014, 03:39 PM)
What @Human10 said is correct,it's all about luck on HDD. tongue.gif
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Hahaha I feel like I'm walking a minefield now. Really hope I get lucky on this one. Thanks for the heads up. =)
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post Jan 5 2014, 06:56 PM

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Uuuuh guys, anyone knows any 1600W PSUs? And who's selling them. Friend wants to buy one.
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post Jan 5 2014, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Jan 5 2014, 07:04 PM)
Why he needs such a big psu for? Just curious here.. biggrin.gif
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Madafacka decided to sell his 780Ti and build a *bleeeeeeep* QUAD 290X CROSSFIRE.

Brb, imma go cry in a corner right now. T.T

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post Jan 5 2014, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Jan 5 2014, 07:12 PM)
Oh yeah?
I don't really know about the bitcoin..
Althugh the term "bitcoin and bitcoin.mining" are quite famous lately..
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It's basically online currency. And you use your systems to mine the internet for it, hence the term.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...J1LajDMFqYqiTJw


But I seriously don't think he is bitcoin mining.
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post Jan 5 2014, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 07:50 PM)
I don't think there are that huge single unit PSU out there... blink.gif

The power source from our wall socket are designed for under 1.5kW only IINM.
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There is actually. Just found it. Rosewill Hercules 1600W 80+ Silver. I'm still trying to comprehend such power. Now the problem is finding a seller. Hahah.

Edit: @.@ wut. 2400W. Holy.

Found a seller coincidentally. Haha. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2487261

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post Jan 5 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jan 5 2014, 08:05 PM)
Don't think our local sellers here sell more than 1000w , Probably 1200w , Corsair AX1200i you can find it somewhere. Btw why he needs so much gpu power? Is he venturing to mining?
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As I said above I did found a Rosewill 1600W but I'm not sure whether the LYN seller is still active. Hoping that he is since he hasn't closed the thread yet.

And yeah, he said he "might" get into mining. Hahaha. It's mostly for gaming. rclxub.gif

He bought the Powercolor LCS 290X btw which comes ready with waterblocks. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jan 5 2014, 08:22 PM)
Your friend might just want to show off his gaming pc build....who in the world wants to do Quad R9 290X Crossfire.Even a single powerful gpu or 2 cards SLI/Crossfire is enough.....  sweat.gif
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Hahahaha I'm asking him that question myself. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 5 2014, 08:30 PM)
quite minimal for gaming, but there will be a greater margin of difference if you use it to power up your integrated graphic card(i.e AMD's apu or Intel i3/i5/i7's HD series)
true also. since the power usage for that build would be too bad for price/watt  sweat.gif
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But he said he might do mining lah, so probably when he is not at home or something he'll just leave it running. Oh well.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jan 5 2014, 08:46 PM)
Well unless it's 4k (a three way sli/crossfirex is enough imo) then or multi monitor setup then there's no sufficient reason why he should go for a quad setup.

Plus he needs to have a good mobo as the pcie slots might limit it to x4 speed if he wants to go to that route.
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He is currently using a 4770K and MSI Z87 XPower, so I think the mobo is self sufficient. Hahaha. I won't be surprised if he does go multi moniters as a setup.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 07:48 PM)
Apart from electrostatic need extra care, I don't see much chances to spoil something in the assembling process.
1. Rdy all the parts and tools (screw drivers and so on)
2. Install the CPU (heatsink) and RAM onto mobo
3. Screw the mobo
4. Screw the PSU
5. Screw (some case no need) the HDD
6. Install the GPU
7. Connect the connectors from PSU to respective parts (note that some connector may be too hard to push in, be extra care on those)
8. Connect SATA from HDD to MOBO
9. Connect those connectors from your chassis onto the mobo

Start booting up the PC and see if everything is working. nod.gif
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You make it sound so......easy. blink.gif hahaha looking forward to building my own as well. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Jan 5 2014, 10:53 PM)
It's not a good habit to wait for things, especially in tech. Tech moves fast you know..
Just buy now, and save again for the future, that's my style.. biggrin.gif
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DDR4 and the newer Haswell-E are gonna cost a bomb, especially here. And likewise, buy now, and save up for a new system in 2-3 years time. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 10:57 PM)
Your previous built pre-assembled at store?
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My first ever comp was definitely ordered and assembled in a store, all the way back in 2003/2004. That one lasted 5-6 years. Got a cheap ass Acer in 2010, tried upgrading along the way but the damn thing died in 2012. vmad.gif

So yeah, this is definitely my very first gamig rig build. rclxms.gif

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post Jan 5 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Jan 5 2014, 11:08 PM)
My pc now was built in 2009.. with intel core2quad, gpu amd hd4850, 4gb ddr2 RAM..
And look, what I'm missing here?

1] usb 3.0
2] ssd
3] sata 3
4] ddr 3 RAM
5] pci-e 3.0 (maybe not that important) biggrin.gif
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That's why I said 2-3 years. Planning to do the same in 2017/8. XD

But again, USB 3.0 and SSDs are not life or death. Worse comes to worse, USB 2.0 and a dual 7200rpm HDD in RAID 0 mode will do you just fine. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 11:22 PM)
Since DDR3 isn't exactly cheap to begin with now, I don't see DDR4 will be much harder to swallow at.

Last time, when DDR3 is just coming out, DDR2 is already dirt cheap.
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Now yeah, don't know why prices shot up like crazy. Heck, I remember people selling Dominator Platinums for 500-600 bucks back in May. Now the same models go for 800-900.
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post Jan 6 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 5 2014, 11:36 PM)
agreed. wanna to buy 4 x 8gb value ram but the price is like 900+  doh.gif
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=_________= even value ram got jacked up. I had to Nego through my bloody teeth just to get my RAM at 700 plus delivery. I wished I bought it 4-5 months ago. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jan 5 2014, 11:49 PM)
Even waiting DDR3 price to drop will take a long time... sweat.gif

So why don't we wait and see how much can DDR4 offer.
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I hope DDR4 will be super pricey so I won't feel bad for buying DDR3. Hehehehehe. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 6 2014, 12:28 AM)
I feel that DDR3's price will raise and raise just like DDR2  sweat.gif
yeah...... 4 x 8gb for 700?  shocking.gif
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Buggers are ripping money off our wallets. Sigh. It already rose like crazy so no surprises.

And no man, it was only 2x8GB. f***ing hell I felt conned. But at least it's 1866MHz CL9. The new retails price being released end of this month Will be around 800+. T.T

Although I felt like I should have gotten GSKILL I heard from alot of people that after sales is nonexistent and RMAs take forever.

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