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post Feb 26 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ Feb 26 2015, 06:47 PM)
4years experience only 4k..mz be small firm.

I join audit in 2009, in 2013. my salary is 5.7k
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post Feb 27 2015, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 27 2015, 01:42 AM)
Guys, it becomes apparent that if to measure your salary properly, you need to state how many hours do you actually work in a week.

i've shifted jobs and typically i put in 10-12 hours a day which got me to think, if i devide my working hours ( which is actually 8 hours a day) for the money i'm being paid vs the many more hours i am required to work ( say 10-11 hours a day coz the job needs me that long instead of being lazy - mostly due to timezone differences), its apparent that i am way under paid
So i guess we need to look at this salary measurement approach a little bit more realistically. ie if ur paid 7k for 8am to 5pm, you basically make 43 ringgit per hour. If you do 10 hours a day, you basically make 35 ringgit per hour.
So in totality, those earning big numbers - especially in IT line, may not be making a whole lot compare to the guy earning 1-2k lesser.

just a thought?
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you got a point.
which is why the perks of the company comes into play, if you get big fat bonus like 6 months bonus, then i guess you are well compensated?
and other benefits in kind....?
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post Feb 27 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Feb 27 2015, 12:17 PM)
Great idea. I was counting my salary down to an hour yesterday and you guys mentioned it this morning! laugh.gif Since I already had a little bit head start, I'll share mine. tongue.gif

Job Title : Event and Marketing Exe
Job Desciption : Create event, brand awareness
Years spent in company : Nov 14 (4 Months)
Company : Gadgets trading
Industry : Distribution, Digital imaging
Tenure : Permanent (Just passed probation)
Employment Level :  Junior Exe
Experience before joining : 3-4 years in event field
Highest paper qualification/ education background : SPM
Salary : RM10.76/hour, 10 hours work/day.
Location: Shah Alam, Selangor

So, any comment on my salary? smile.gif
Oh okok. If you speak mandarin I bet you get another RM300. tongue.gif
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it is not a very accurate way of counting though.

sometimes i can work from 8am to 4-5am in a day. or even don't go home at all.

sometimes (when free), go into office at 10, lunch from 12-3, then leave at 5. how to calculate like that?
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post Feb 28 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pitt @ Feb 28 2015, 01:03 AM)
Job Title : Tech Support Level 2
Job Desciption : Support Internal IT Operation
Years spent in company : 3 months
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Tenure : Contract sad.gif Wub Wub
Employment Level : Junior Exec
Experience before joining : 6 yrs same industry
Highest paper qualification/ education background : SPM (Who says no Degree cannot live?)
Salary : RM4k
Location: Bangsar South

Got any better option out there?
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Feb 28 2015, 08:53 AM)
Without Degree yes you can still live, but can you break the 'ceiling'? How high can you climb the cooperate ladder? Can you take managerial position?

I am just asking, wonder if there is any SPM that is now holding high position in cooperate. I know many SPM who earns huge sum of money doing own business, sales, highly skilled technician, etc.
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yeah, agreed with rd33, yes of course you can live without a degree... but how far can you go in life is another thing. those days people without education can still live their life, cutting rubbers, growing vege, etc...

nowadays, degree is like a minimum passport to most of the job in the market (i'm not talking about admin, clerk, etc.), like rd33 said, can one without higher education take on those managerial role, like GM, head of a department, director, let alone executive director, coo, ceo and etc.

open up any of the annual reports on bursa, see which company has board members are without higher education, SAVE FOR the business founder(s) and their connected persons. i would dare to say, the least they have is a degree. Masters, professional affiliates and etc are amongst others the most commonly seen in the quality of the directors.. of course i'm talking about some sizeable companies, and not those small super micro cap companies.

well, disregard all the above, you can still be on top, be your own boss. you can still live without a degree. no one will die for not receiving proper education.
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QUOTE(god2077 @ Mar 10 2015, 11:15 AM)
Job Title : Consultant
Job Desciption : SAP
Years spent in company : 3 months (under probation)
Industry : IT
Experience before joining :0
Highest paper qualification : Degree
salary : RM3k
Location: Bukit Jalil

Anyone have similar experience with me?
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i thought it was a good start already.
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post Mar 10 2015, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(god2077 @ Mar 10 2015, 11:20 AM)
Are you in the similiar Field? Some of my friends getting higher paid hmm.gif
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nope. but not point comparing la.
5 years down the road you could be much better than them.

experience comes first, for fresh graduate. money will follow.
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post Jun 4 2015, 11:23 PM

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guys guys... remember...

read this with a pinch of salt.....

have a good malam jumaat...
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post Jun 25 2015, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(AshLeong @ Jun 24 2015, 08:27 PM)
Job Title : Senior Contract Executive
Job Desciption : Pre & Post Contract
Years spent in company : 5 yrs
Company : Main Contractor
Industry : Construction
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining : half yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
salary : RM 3.7k + 400 petrol + 400 OT + Company Car + Company HP + Tol Reimbursment + Min Every 2yrs Company Trip + Min 2 Month Bonus
Location : KL
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quite decent i would say.
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post Jun 30 2015, 01:55 PM

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maybe when we open the next version we can add the age factor into it.

i added the education background, because i believe it does plays a factor.
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Jul 3 2015, 04:09 PM)
Job Title : Outside/Inside Plant Engineer
Job Description : Doing networking stuff
Years spent in company : 0
Company : Confidential
Industry : Telco
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in EE
salary : RM2.5k + RM200 parking + RM150 phone bill
Location: Mont Kiara

is it good? going to join this company next month, first job after graduate anyways biggrin.gif
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not too bad la... they even subsidies your parking and phone bill... not bad for a start. good luck.
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post Jul 7 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(ScaredOfFuture @ Jul 7 2015, 03:43 AM)
Hello everyone can you help me ? I'm 16 years old , and my result in pt3 teruk... And now my teacher letak saya ke dalam kelas perdagangan + ekonomi asas + tasawur islam ... What should I do after I habis sekolah ? What's the best course to study and the job that I will get is a good pay.. I really want a job that salary can reach rm10k++ within 10 years of experience , I saw IT is really good but is there any better ?
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scared of your future then study properly, pursue tertiary education.

There is no guarantee that tertiary education will get you rich, however, it is like the minimum requirement to the working force now and you are certain that you won't die of hunger but you may not be rich.


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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 9 2015, 12:09 AM)
Anyone know the salary range (plus commisions if possible) for a premier banker? One who serves high networth clients.
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maybe you can share with us on how you are doing? smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2015, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(lolip0p7 @ Aug 13 2015, 09:47 PM)
Job Title : L1/1.5 Mandarin service desk
Job Desciption : Provides technical support to end user
Years spent in company : 1 and a half
Company :  MNC
Industry : ITO
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Snr Exec
Experience before joining : 3-4 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
salary : RM 4.2k + 1 month contractual bonus
Location: KL
Age: Almost 29

Am I earning it right for my age?

This is an easy job, always leave on time and there's no more work after working hour, due to this, I have become lazier, and my brain somewhat become dull, because every day just doing trivial troubleshootings for noob users, as opposed to previous job where I need to deal with server and networking.

my lead has made it clear that this job won't have fat bonus and increments, maybe only less than rm100 increment each year, but everyday you just clock in clock out on time, end of month you shall receive the salary without stretching much of your mental and physical.

I am now in a dilemma, shall I step out of my comfort zone and try something more challenging?  but I am the kind of person who doesn't like official stuff after working hour, I see most of my friends having to stay back or work during weekends, I don't want to be like them, but at the same time, the salary seems like not enough these days, especially the fall of ringgit

what would you do if you were me?

btw I am single, one of the reasons is I don't want to have a busy career which hinders me from looking up for potential partner. I become worried as I see my brother and most of his colleagues who work as journalists, have no time for dating.
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i think you should take a leap of faith. if you don't want to work hard when you are still young, then when? forever be like that? nothing challenging in your life?

sometimes long working hours is good. no one ask you to go for a job that you doesn't have rest time at all. strike a balance.

partner will come when the time is right.

funnily you're saying like those auditors/investment bankers/ any other busy profession won't have partner?
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post Sep 7 2015, 09:26 AM

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the Gen Y nowadays need to see more before commenting OT = inefficient.

they are still fresh, not fully/completely exposed yet. wait till they see more fields and more things before making general statement.

etc, research team usually work round the clock, they start their work after the market closes, prepare research report by 9am next morning. they use their lunch window period to prepare update report before the market re-open by 2.30pm.

in some investment banking line, authorities come back to you at 4-5pm with a 2-3 pages queries sheet and demand clarification by the next morning. means that night you have to work like mad.

Gen Y nowadays want high salary, easy life, easy workload, no OT, sharp sharp leave everyday and any other thing that you can think of.
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post Sep 9 2015, 09:32 AM

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actually i feel we need to put in our effort to learn. gen y nowadays need to also take a step back and self examine, can I really just demand a high salary, etc?

my hod once told me, you're paid to learn and I it will be paid off if i'm a quick learner and performer. which i agree. i learned a lot in the good few years there.

true enough, i doubled my salary in about 3 years time. tripled in about 5 years plus. so............
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 9 2015, 12:36 PM)
I am working in KL and I had been working in IT MNC like IxM and Hewlxtt Pxckard for number of years. I am Gen X when I join the IxM as fresh grad and I leave Hx the fresh grads were occupied by Gen Y.
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My own personal opinion. Gen Y is generally creative than previous Gen and they tend to think of the box too. There are many fresh ideas from Gen Y which might be or might not be accepted by company. Gen Y open to speak their thought out freely and communication is better as well. However there are few things I discovered myself where there are comment weakness of Gen Y.

1. Careless - Working on the task is quick but less precise.

2. Less hardworking - Gen Y always emphasize on work life balance no matter in what situation. Thanks to Airasix always has promotion and Gen Y are more enjoy their life in travelling than working. I almost find none of the Gen Y willing to share the workload of other colleagues and they claim it was not inside their responsibility.

3. Less considerate - Gen Y commonly found as much ego compare to Gen X or earlier. They can argue and talk loud and rude to their senior or leader without considerate other's feeling.

4. Demanding - I am wondering how the fresh grad or Gen Y junior dare to ask for high salary or increment when they are yet to prove their performance to the employer. I have met few Gen Y asking for more than 8% increment where their KPI is average or below but even the better KPI worker is getting about 6%.

We are not saying to pay fresh grad at RM1500 but not as high as somewhere RM3000, have to be realistic figure for inexperience person. If fresh grad thinking to pack their bags to go SG it is up to them. There are many people went to SG earning big exchange rate to enjoy better lifestyle which is good thing. However my advice to those who ambitious may think twice before moving to SG as the corporate ladder for Msia is least when come to think there are many elite from SG, MY, China, Philippines, Thailand, Japan, Korea, HK, Taiwan etc countries. Many of the management posts are held by either SG people or Caucasian. There maybe 70% of Msia end by earning average of 5-7k (at least degree holder) till their retirement age and yet still stuck at senior officer role. In SG there is very least opportunity to become entrepreneur even a small retail shop, the competition is intense and small enterprise or small player unable to survive as few big players capture the whole market.

FYI, there are many big corporate or listed companies in Msia paying more than 10k salary for manager or senior manager role. For director level the remuneration can be anything more than 20k per month excluding bonus. Beside if individual want to self-employ, there are opportunities to become entrepreneur but it subject to condition such as capital, location (much bigger than SG), products etc.
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post Sep 16 2015, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Sep 16 2015, 04:40 PM)
Wow, very aspiring !

Might consider being MP after graduate.

What's the requirement? icon_idea.gif
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must be brave enough. need to talk very highly, or very maslanly to get famous. need to be corrupt enough. don't be afraid to get jailed.

anymore to add on?
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QUOTE(IVL @ Sep 29 2015, 09:30 PM)
Job Title : Graduate Trainee
Job Description : Training Programme
Years spent in company : nil
Company : UK MNC
Industry : OnG
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : fresh grad
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Salary : RM5k + 700 fixed allowance
Age : 23
Location: KL
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you're doing very good there mate, kudos!
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QUOTE(magnesium @ Oct 23 2015, 03:36 PM)
Job Title : lorry driver
Job Desciption : drive lorry
Years spent in company : 3
Company :
Industry : trading
Tenure :
Employment Level :
Experience before joining : driving van
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree in electronic
salary : RM1.5k
Location: peninsular
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you got a degree and you drive a lorry?
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 3 2015, 08:56 PM)
This thread has reached way beyond 2500 posts. Time to close and open a new version. Else, it will interrupt the server load  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah, someone to take the initiative please?

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