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 -= MyForte - Naza Kia Forte Owners Club =- V20, Leaves You Speechless

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post Jun 25 2014, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Jun 25 2014, 08:48 AM)
Kindly search my previous posts..I post about this somewhere in May or April if i'm not mistaken  nod.gif

U also owned Forte 2.0 right?
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yup.


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post Jun 25 2014, 08:56 AM

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This might helps..Forte 2.0 electric steering (MDPS) are prone to this problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBTdDzQ3ris
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post Jun 25 2014, 09:04 AM

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Hi g88, sure thing, hopefully the below gives a clue about the car. Hopefully some insights would arise. The leak is basically on the rear side of the engine, facing the firewall. Leak went down that side of the engine and onto the drive shaft and subframe.



QUOTE(g88 @ Jun 24 2014, 09:49 PM)
Sorry to hear about the case but I am more interested to know about it...

1. Can i know what is the mileage of your 3 months old car now? - 6000 KM when it happened

2. Did you buy the car from AZ the dealer coz of free 3 years service and freebies etc  (Sa approach thru approach) ?  - yes

3. When was you 1st found of the leak how long AFTER that then only you go to SC (i presume its AZ SC), and they just wipe it off and let you go ? Did you go into the working area and SHOW them the leak ?  - right away on the same day. I went in there to show them the leak and after that they wiped it off

4. The Naza HQ  person you refer to, are they coming to AZ SC or you go to another SC (If yes which one is it) ? - They came from Naza HQ, Haji Mustafah, who FFK me on my appointment yesterday and leave me to deal with 3 engineers to explain my case, which eventually steamroll me

5. After the INITIAL wiped until now , how long edi and is there still leak at the same spot ?  - no spots visible, and that is the mysterious part


6. Did you leave your car there before hand prior to let the Korean engineer (btw my experience tell they are very bad in english - almost can't communicate at all) - I drove in on the day the korean engineer arrived.



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post Jun 25 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(perror @ Jun 25 2014, 09:04 AM)
Hi g88, sure thing, hopefully the below gives a clue about the car. Hopefully some insights would arise. The leak is basically on the rear side of the engine, facing the firewall. Leak went down that side of the engine and onto the drive shaft and subframe.
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If no leak is not more spotted, seriously its hard to 'argue'....my advice is that do consistently keep an eye on the same spot which you suspect/saw leak previously, once it happen again go back to SC asap and bag their table.


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post Jun 25 2014, 10:00 AM

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I certainly agree with that bit. I am hoping that they take up more responsibility on the matter since the evidence has already been presented and it was their own guys that wiped it off, causing it not to be seen anymore. Also mainly due to the age of the vehicle, barely 3 months old when it happened, along with other issues that occurred with the auto transmission earlier.

Hopefully something comes out of it eventually...

QUOTE(g88 @ Jun 25 2014, 09:18 AM)
If no leak is not more spotted, seriously its hard to 'argue'....my advice is that do consistently keep an eye on the same spot which you suspect/saw leak previously, once it happen again go back to SC asap and bag their table.
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post Jun 25 2014, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(perror @ Jun 25 2014, 10:00 AM)
I certainly agree with that bit. I am hoping that they take up more responsibility on the matter since the evidence has already been presented and it was their own guys that wiped it off, causing it not to be seen anymore. Also mainly due to the age of the vehicle, barely 3 months old when it happened, along with other issues that occurred with the auto transmission earlier.

Hopefully something comes out of it eventually...
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yea bro i understand ur concern, maybe u can go to few different SC and request them to check.
seriously those !@#$%^& dont know our worry and inconvenience they will cause for that kind of attitude.

when i got my car last time, my AC blew hot air after few weeks, brought it to nearby SC, they refilled my gas and they claimed 101% no leaking, then during my first service I requested them to check again, and again they said 101% no problem. i trusted them and 2 weeks later, what a lol, it blew hot air again.

i went to another SC, which is really good last time, they identified my problem in first visit. solved my problem in a week during CNY somemore. too bad that the SC already shut down.

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post Jun 25 2014, 10:19 AM

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I think it's time to change my forte disk brake after drive for almost 4 yrs. Any member here have change the disk brake oledy? How is the total damage for changing the disk brake?
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post Jun 25 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(perror @ Jun 24 2014, 07:51 PM)
I had a pretty bad experience with KIA after sales services today. My 3 month old Cerato had an engine oil leak since a month ago. The SC at Seri Kembangan wiped off the leak and after that it could not be found again. Naza HQ technical people took a look at it and also could not find the leak.
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2-3 years ago , few members blew their gearbox due to faulty hose (it's KIA fault)
They've no prob to get gb replacement from SC. After that, NAZA annonuced for free hose replacement.
Worst come to worst, u can log a case to tribunal pengguna...

QUOTE(izputra @ Jun 25 2014, 12:02 AM)
By the way, just to update about the steering (MDPS) knocking issue on Forte 2.0. Finally i managed to fix this issue at Alor Setar NazaKia SC. Got one 'otai' service technician there (i have raised the issue & talk to him personally) that competent enough with MDPS to do the job successfully. Cost? All i can say is that, it is much cheaper than if we do it at alternative steering specialise (Non Kia SC) at Singapore. Good job NazaKia SC
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Aik... x share pun bro what item has been replaced... Depa replaced steering bush kaaa...

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QUOTE(ylchew77 @ Jun 25 2014, 10:19 AM)
I think it's time to change my forte disk brake after drive for almost 4 yrs. Any member here have change the disk brake oledy? How is the total damage for changing the disk brake?
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My biggest concern is there was oil coming down the sides of the engine, plus a puddle of oil on my parking lot floor which was not there before, right where the engine is.

As much as I'd like to shake the issue off that it is isolated, I can't because the evidence seems to suggest something.

QUOTE(dvinez @ Jun 25 2014, 10:12 AM)
yea bro i understand ur concern, maybe u can go to few different SC and request them to check.
seriously those !@#$%^& dont know our worry and inconvenience they will cause for that kind of attitude.

when i got my car last time, my AC blew hot air after few weeks, brought it to nearby SC, they refilled my gas and they claimed 101% no leaking, then during my first service I requested them to check again, and again they said 101% no problem. i trusted them and 2 weeks later, what a lol, it blew hot air again.

i went to another SC, which is really good last time, they identified my problem in first visit. solved my problem in a week during CNY somemore. too bad that the SC already shut down.
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post Jun 25 2014, 04:02 PM

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Hi! Guy, I'm new here. Does anyone know about current Recall Campaign from KIA? KIA SC give a message about service ATF HOSE. Is it true? Thanks.
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QUOTE(AiEki @ Jun 25 2014, 04:02 PM)
Hi! Guy, I'm new here. Does anyone know about current Recall Campaign from KIA? KIA SC give a message about service ATF HOSE. Is it true? Thanks.
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i think a year ago or so already have recall for certain batch regarding atf hose.
hose will burst suddenly when u are driving. they can check whether you are affected or not by chassis number.
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post Jun 25 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Jun 25 2014, 04:29 PM)
i think a year ago or so already have recall for certain batch regarding atf hose.
hose will burst suddenly when u are driving. they can check whether you are affected or not by chassis number.
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i think they will call u to go sc and replace. if no call then no need go.
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Jun 25 2014, 04:29 PM)
i think a year ago or so already have recall for certain batch regarding atf hose.
hose will burst suddenly when u are driving. they can check whether you are affected or not by chassis number.
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oh thanks for the info. much appreciate it.


QUOTE(craxors @ Jun 25 2014, 04:34 PM)
i think they will call u to go sc and replace. if no call then no need go.
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yeah i got msg from them last week to comeby for recall. i thought that was a fake. thanks anyway.
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post Jun 25 2014, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Jun 25 2014, 11:49 AM)
Aik... x share pun bro what item has been replaced... Depa replaced steering bush kaaa...
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The main culprit is the flexible coupling inside the MDPS assembly. Small thing only. What surprise me the most is the price of that flexible coupling itself..RM3.47 only. But the labour cost is quite high due to hard work to dismantle the steering assembly + steering recalibration. Anyhow, the price is reasonable for almost a 3 hours job.

Flexible coupling looks like this
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post Jun 25 2014, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Jun 25 2014, 06:53 PM)
The coupling looks like this
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So what's the faulty one look like ? One of the stick broke ?
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post Jun 25 2014, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 25 2014, 07:06 PM)
So what's the faulty one look like ? One of the stick broke ?
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I'm not sure bro..they never show me the faulty one..whether it simply broke or maybe due to wear & tear
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post Jun 25 2014, 07:37 PM

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Aisey… awat x request back the faulty one ?
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post Jun 25 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Jun 25 2014, 07:37 PM)
Aisey…  awat x request back the faulty one ?
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Yalorr..should request that faulty one. Forgot la.. doh.gif
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About 2 weeks ago i noticed that my car's engine idling unsteadily for a while then the engine suddenly stop by its own. Then i restart the engine with no problem whatsoever & use my car as usual until suddenly this morning when my car's engine suddenly stop several time after several start attempts. Though finally i managed to start the engine & go to work, i noticed that the check engine indicator lit up at the dashboard & the engine idling unsteadily again.

Sent back my car to SC this afternoon & they diagnose it, my assumption is right that one of the engine sensors is faulty..the MAP sensor to be exact. Changed the MAP sensor & all back to normal. Again..good job SC


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