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post Apr 19 2008, 12:39 AM

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i wan TO buY cafe32+ any sales man here? or any 1 kno where to buy????? pls tell me..... icon_question.gif
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post Apr 19 2008, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 4 2007, 01:33 AM)
Recently I saw a few cybercafes using client server based game server.
They dont load full game on client pc, they have a server store game files and client is actually running game off the server.

And the  server will automatically update/patch the game (online game) when there is a new version.

I heard it costs $20-30 per client... Anyone knows who is selling this solution ?
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They are 1 software call CGO and my friend said it cost RM50/pc, or u could call the KL supplier (Maxspread) 012-3346728. Last time they come to SP and give some products introduction. A few of my friend brought it and so far so good la..


Added on April 19, 2008, 6:15 pm
QUOTE(weiyann83 @ Apr 9 2007, 09:35 AM)
i also saw some cyber cafe they have Server Based game server all the games is store inside server. client PC just OS, just want to know is that possible can make it? what software have this kind of function? do u all think shortcut from server will it able to work?
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Yes, with CGO.


Added on April 19, 2008, 6:35 pm
QUOTE(Kemen @ Oct 7 2007, 10:34 PM)
Yeah, but quite pricy.  blink.gif
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Use Richtech Diskless XP, it is more reasonable prices, DDS server software = RM4,999 but Richtech Diskless XP server software is FOC shocking.gif

And the DDS client licensing fees is RM199/pc but Richtech only RM150/pc

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post May 6 2008, 10:33 PM

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Richtech is using windows 2003 server - charge RM2500 per server . If using two server then need RM2500 x 2 units server = RM5000, DDS is using LINUX therefore is REAL FOC!

DDS licensing fee is depend on quantity of PCs...
<40PCs is Rm199/pc
40 - 80 PCs is RM188/pc
80 - 100PCs is RM175/pc
and etc...
more than 200 PCs is RM120/pc

DDS use as easy as ABC, haha...our cafe used for 1 year ++ already also not call DDS support for one time....too stable already...cannot believe!

Last time our cc also test on DOE/DOL and also crack version richtech.
DOE/DOL too bad - DOS Interface in server
RICHTECH performance no good...DDS boot 20PCs within 1min, load game also faster than richtech...... RICHTECH boot 20pcs need 3-5 min and load game also slower than DDS.

Now DDS got new game menu and can save game and load game and lock screen and + 500-600 Preinstalled Games......so nice....haha...i already contact them ask them to give us the latest master hdd...haha...FOC also.........
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post May 11 2008, 11:36 AM

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guys... need help here....

im just wondering...
lets say i open a cyber cafe...

im thinking to use smartlaunch as my cyber cafe management controler... (open pc, transfer pc, lock pc, unlock pc, etc etc)

then michealsoft DDS as for my client pc to connect to my server and load the game etc etc....


so my question here....
so far after i read all replies in this topic...
im interested with smartlaunch and ecafepro... between this 2, i choosen smartlaunch. but since i nvr use either 1 of them... so is there any experienced user can enlight me about this 2 software? which 1 better?? can smartlaunch set different price for different pc? lets say maybe pc01-pc50 i wan set X price. then pc51-pc60 i set Y price. can i do that with smart launch?


as for michealsoft DDS... if i use this software in server. as said u just need install in ur server and all client run from ur server. right??? so how do i buy the license thingy? lets say i install warcraft. i just install once into the server. but the CD key? all the same in all client pc? so i just got to pay 1 license for all pc in my cyber cafe??? but since it is just 1 CD key... means just 1 of my customer can enter official battlenet of warcraft in my cyber cafe per time? or how do i settle this? nvr use before...



hope to get some helps here....
thanks in advance... smile.gif
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post May 12 2008, 12:49 PM

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why no one say about cafe suite?? is free right? i'm now using it and didn't face any bug so far. the games server is that so efficient for cycber cafe use? if the server down then how? and for EA games is need to using different registration key then only can be play in lan mode. so if using one game server would it can be done this all?
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post May 12 2008, 04:09 PM

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guys... need help here....

im just wondering...
lets say i open a cyber cafe...

im thinking to use smartlaunch as my cyber cafe management controler... (open pc, transfer pc, lock pc, unlock pc, etc etc)

then michealsoft DDS as for my client pc to connect to my server and load the game etc etc....


so my question here....
so far after i read all replies in this topic...
im interested with smartlaunch and ecafepro... between this 2, i choosen smartlaunch. but since i nvr use either 1 of them... so is there any experienced user can enlight me about this 2 software? which 1 better?? can smartlaunch set different price for different pc? lets say maybe pc01-pc50 i wan set X price. then pc51-pc60 i set Y price. can i do that with smart launch?


as for michealsoft DDS... if i use this software in server. as said u just need install in ur server and all client run from ur server. right??? so how do i buy the license thingy? lets say i install warcraft. i just install once into the server. but the CD key? all the same in all client pc? so i just got to pay 1 license for all pc in my cyber cafe??? but since it is just 1 CD key... means just 1 of my customer can enter official battlenet of warcraft in my cyber cafe per time? or how do i settle this? nvr use before...



hope to get some helps here....
thanks in advance... smile.gif


we already have solutions for the warcraft cdkey issue. so dun worry about tat. as for licensing issue, for example: if u haf 100pc (all using michaelsoft dds solution), u will still need to pay for 100pcs (100x PCs warcraft license). there's no way u can escape by paying only 1PC license for ur 100 PCs cafe. if u still have any question, pls kindly pm me biggrin.gif

and for cafe billing software, may i add in a recommendation? one cafe is not bad. tongue.gif
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Added on May 12, 2008, 4:15 pmwhy no one say about cafe suite?? is free right? i'm now using it and didn't face any bug so far. the games server is that so efficient for cycber cafe use? if the server down then how? and for EA games is need to using different registration key then only can be play in lan mode. so if using one game server would it can be done this all?


cafe suite are up to preferences tongue.gif Michaelsoft DDS Solutions uses 2 server. If one of the server goes down (hardware problem), the other will back it up. so in conclusion = 0 downtime. as for the ea games LAN play cdkey issue, we also have solutions for it biggrin.gif and calling the servers "game server" isnt tat appropriate. if u are really interested, pls give a call to Michaelsoft DDS SDN BHD to clear all ur doubts and questions. biggrin.gif PM me for contacts.

abt efficiency, is very high. save u TIME, COST, and HEADACHES. it is very user frenly.

situation: 100pcs. using hdd.
comparison: ghost to clone hdds, deepfreeze (recovery software) vs DDS.

how long do u nid to clone for 160Gb HDD ?45minutes to 60minutes?
deepfreeze? freeze unfree 100pcs ?

dds: 1 pc update, all get the updates =D and runs extra fast...

no matter how i try to explain, u wont believe it until u c it, u can always go to Sky Online, Rock Cafe at sunway to see our setup there. =D

This post has been edited by lynch: May 15 2008, 02:41 PM
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post May 15 2008, 06:09 PM

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i got CC software from google HERE..just wanna share..if anyone want Faronics.DeepFreeze.Enterprise.v6.20.220 u can pm me.. biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2008, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Radeon @ May 13 2007, 12:54 PM)
why don't you guys start with the free ones first,
if it's buggy then only consider the pay version
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yes,cafe 123 is the simple and good cc client
max_chong2
post May 16 2008, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Radeon @ May 13 2007, 12:54 PM)
why don't you guys start with the free ones first,
if it's buggy then only consider the pay version
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i support you. if you try on the free vision is better you use thounsand for a system. save your cost.
cafe suite is a free vision now. i use it so far no bug... but you need to download it and doing some file copy then only can be properly use. seen that malaysia here still is a free vision bcoz nobody is agent for that. maybe have but i dunno. about the server system is really save cost but take a expensive cost to setup.... but if you have enough technician you can try to ghost one to one then slowly change the payment system.

This post has been edited by max_chong2: May 16 2008, 02:33 AM
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post May 17 2008, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(general @ May 15 2008, 06:09 PM)
i got CC software from google  HERE..just wanna share..if anyone want Faronics.DeepFreeze.Enterprise.v6.20.220 u can pm me.. biggrin.gif
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u giving FREE LEGAL LICENSE to everyone? if u are count me in, if u arent, hope u dun get a warning or a ban. tongue.gif
Takashi
post May 18 2008, 06:15 PM

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Yes, DDS or richtech both are diskless programs for cafe used. The perfomance and reliabilities is based on the configuration of ur server. matter of how much $$$ u dumb in and the how u configure ur network. some running manage switch and some unmanage.

to be frank, the resolution of ur screen directly affect the volumn of date been transfered from server to ur client, what i mean here is not the desktop resolution by gaming resolutions. 1680x 1050 COD4 need almost double of size if compare to 1024x1050. so different spec need different server. the attachment is what i have been tested for a newly cafe.

u can see that 3x500GB RAID0 with buffer on can highly transfer more than 200MB per seconds. so the bottle neck is on ur network adapter. maybe some of u will say i have 2 network adapter in my server configuration with different IP. eg: 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.101

ok, do u noticed that this configuration is seperated the client pc into 2 channel. which mean 1 to 30 pc refer to adapter no1: 192.168.1.100 and pc 31 to 60 to adapter no2: 192.168.1.101. what if all ur customer is sitting only from pc no1 to pc30? this means ur adapter 2 is on idle (sleeping mode) all the data is transfer throught adapter no1: 192.168.1.100

everyone knows that 1000based /1Gbps is 1000 mega bit per sec but not mega byte:

1byte = 8 bit

so ur 1000based is around 116Megabyte per second.

u can cleary see that even ur HDD can transfer 200MB per second but u running on adapter no1: 192.168.1.100 which caused the bottleneck 116MB limit. so i advice running network teaming as a solution. with Network teaming (NLB) u can easily combine 2 network adapter or 3 above to become a single channel. which means u have only 1 IP on ur server with 2/3 network card.

when the bandwidth is more than 100mb and the program will automatically using the 2nd adapter to transfer date for the following transfer, and if ur server is really powerful HDD trasnfer rate is more than 350MB .. so the program will use all the 3 card to transfer ur data.


Added on May 18, 2008, 6:33 pmas refer to above ....someone mentioned running 2 diskless server will have zero downtime.. sorry and no offence, infact u still need the 3rd server.

the 2 server running on synch is to reduce the heavy duty carry on single server. which mean load balance. ok now is the prob. when the admin update or do some changes on server 1 and endup a mass or something wrong... sorry to say that the synch is real time.. so ur server 2 is gone as well. for me.. i'll try my best to backup a single server for ER used.

from the above post, i have tested on some issue... personally, i think that from the review and attachment above... i barely believed that 1 server could support up to 60 PC without synch. of coz.. matter of how do u set on ur write sector. ( new VR150 300GB WD HDD with RAID0 buffer on ) could solve all the doubt.

approximately 150MB write speed ... (review on google) .. no HDD to test yet.. i'll post my review once i got the HDD.

no hard feeling or offence to any parties..just my 0.02 cents


have a nice day


best regards


Takashi

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post May 19 2008, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(ichals @ Feb 22 2007, 05:32 PM)
Anyone want to use my own Cyber Cafe software? da software can handle more than 200 PC Client, stable, easy for install, user friendly, compatible with all Hardware/Software

Support DeepFreeze & WinXP1.2/98/NT/2000/Me.(Deep Freeze makes ur PC maintenance very easy!!)
This software very Famous and 100% develops by Indonesia Programmer, 85% Cyber cafe at Jakarta using this Software.

Just PM me for Details...

PRICE: RM200 Only (Unlimited User Client)
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can i knw what is the name of ur software??
max_chong2
post May 21 2008, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(crazy_pc @ May 19 2008, 05:32 PM)
can i knw what is the name of ur software??
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why dun want juz to share the software here?? here is to get more right!


Added on May 21, 2008, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(ichals @ Feb 22 2007, 05:32 PM)
Anyone want to use my own Cyber Cafe software? da software can handle more than 200 PC Client, stable, easy for install, user friendly, compatible with all Hardware/Software

Support DeepFreeze & WinXP1.2/98/NT/2000/Me.(Deep Freeze makes ur PC maintenance very easy!!)
This software very Famous and 100% develops by Indonesia Programmer, 85% Cyber cafe at Jakarta using this Software.

Just PM me for Details...

PRICE: RM200 Only (Unlimited User Client)
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why dun want to share it here. here is the way we share what we know..

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post May 22 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Takashi @ May 18 2008, 06:15 PM)
Yes, DDS or richtech both are diskless programs for cafe used. The perfomance and reliabilities is based on the configuration of ur server. matter of how much $$$ u dumb in and the how u configure ur network. some running manage switch and some unmanage.

to be frank, the resolution of ur screen directly affect the volumn of date been transfered from server to ur client, what i mean here is not the desktop resolution by gaming resolutions. 1680x 1050 COD4 need almost double of size if compare to 1024x1050. so different spec need different server. the attachment is what i have been tested for a newly cafe.

u can see that 3x500GB RAID0 with buffer on can highly transfer more than 200MB per seconds. so the bottle neck is on ur network adapter. maybe some of u will say i have 2 network adapter in my server configuration with different IP. eg: 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.101

ok, do u noticed that this configuration is seperated the client pc into 2 channel. which mean 1 to 30 pc refer to adapter no1: 192.168.1.100 and pc 31 to 60 to adapter no2: 192.168.1.101. what if all ur customer is sitting only from pc no1 to pc30? this means ur adapter 2 is on idle (sleeping mode) all the data is transfer throught adapter no1: 192.168.1.100

everyone knows that 1000based /1Gbps is 1000 mega bit per sec but not mega byte:

1byte = 8 bit

so ur 1000based is around 116Megabyte per second.

u can cleary see that even ur HDD can transfer 200MB per second but u running on adapter no1: 192.168.1.100 which caused the bottleneck 116MB limit. so i advice running network teaming as a solution. with Network teaming (NLB) u can easily combine 2 network adapter or 3 above to become a single channel. which means u have only 1 IP on ur server with 2/3 network card.

when the bandwidth is more than 100mb and the program will automatically using the 2nd adapter to transfer date for the following transfer, and if ur server is really powerful HDD trasnfer rate is more than 350MB .. so the program will use all the 3 card to transfer ur data.


Added on May 18, 2008, 6:33 pmas refer to above ....someone mentioned running 2 diskless server will have zero downtime.. sorry and no offence, infact u still need the 3rd server.

the 2 server running on synch is to reduce the heavy duty carry on single server. which mean load balance. ok now is the prob. when the admin update or do some changes on server 1 and endup a mass or something wrong... sorry to say that the synch is real time.. so ur server 2 is gone as well. for me.. i'll try my best to backup a single server for ER used.

from the above post, i have tested on some issue... personally, i think that from the review and attachment above... i barely believed that 1 server could support up to 60 PC without synch. of coz.. matter of how do u set on ur write sector. ( new VR150 300GB WD HDD with RAID0 buffer on ) could solve all the doubt.

approximately 150MB write speed ... (review on google) .. no HDD to test yet.. i'll post my review once i got the HDD.

no hard feeling or offence to any parties..just my 0.02 cents
have a nice day
best regards
Takashi
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know so well de?
u open cyber cafe de ar?
or intend to open 1? O_O
know so much cyber cafe related? lol. share share a bit come over ler.. hahaha...
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post May 27 2008, 12:06 PM

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Such as great benchmark !! But finally diskless it do really helps on cyber cafe or networked PC which all centralizing to server.
DDS makes Hassle free, easy maintenances, cost saving and etc!!

extra from our planet too!! no more HDD in your cyber cafe's client PC.. hehe smile.gif
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QUOTE(raymondng76 @ Jul 5 2007, 01:55 PM)
who was interested this software ? CCdisk 1.6 Full
i have original version with lifetime upgrade !!!! only sell rm 450 (New)for cycbercafe or company . good software
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i got problem with iscsi cake a.k.a cc disk.
i already install all my online game into my server game.
and now i got problem with certain online game. i cant play on my client... for example, ran online, rakion, wolfteam, etc.
silkroad and others can play...
anybody how to setting this software? any solution?
tq!!!
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any one know how to setup deep freeze? i have install but why can't configu it?

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whats prob with deepfreeze?
what version?
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post May 30 2008, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(weiyann83 @ Apr 9 2007, 09:35 AM)
i also saw some cyber cafe they have Server Based game server all the games is store inside server. client PC just OS, just want to know is that possible can make it? what software have this kind of function? do u all think shortcut from server will it able to work?
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ok.. im a basiclly know well about networking and databasing....
yeah, im totally agreed about the 1 server game..
and at my cc is do the same thing...
i have a 3000Gb of hd with the total of 120 Lan games, 32 Online Game, plus some boring game from gamehouse and so on..
i used special server Mb...

but there are some problems occur...

1. The internet will be slow.. i'll tell you why..
the LAN will get BAD traffic.. because 40 client sim' running through server...
the laggy problem comes just from the cc itself..
this problem is called network jam...

solutions??

for your Internal Network (LAN) you can use a Fibreoptic network lines and Fibreoptic hub...

solve problems...
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QUOTE(ChristineMcGowan @ May 30 2008, 01:17 PM)
ok.. im a basiclly know well about networking and databasing....
yeah, im totally agreed about the 1 server game..
and at my cc is do the same thing...
i have a 3000Gb of hd with the total of 120 Lan games, 32 Online Game, plus some boring game from gamehouse and so on..
i used special server Mb...

but there are some problems occur...

1. The internet will be slow.. i'll tell you why..
    the LAN will get BAD traffic.. because 40 client sim' running through server...
    the laggy problem comes just from the cc itself..
    this problem is called network jam...

solutions??

for your Internal Network (LAN) you can use a Fibreoptic network lines and Fibreoptic hub...

solve problems...
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gigalan cant solve?

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