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Investment 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market, Property Investment

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post Jan 9 2014, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(akh731 @ Jan 9 2014, 09:00 PM)
ha ha.. RM drop ... investor come to buy house??

oversea investment need to consider foreign exchange...

people would like to put in the country that exchange rate appreciate instead depreciate..

if you think depreciate is better, why not go to zimbawai to buy house there... doh.gif
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Banyak come buy house. Those work in Singapore come back buy house lor.

Lol come on zimbawai? Lol u know there meh? Later they cut u 18 pieces. Talk some place can make sense lar. Find a better example lar. Zimbawai...lol

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post Jan 9 2014, 09:13 PM

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If there is property bubble in Msia, do u think bank willing offer 90% loan to ppl? Depends on ur credibility or u might get 60-70% loan only n u need fork out tonne of cash to pay dwnpayment.
Not evry1 can afford.
Our psf still relatively reasonable compare neighbor country.

That time sales could b slow but doesn't meant price drop magnificent.
If developer willing drop by bank oso not dare offer too
My 2 cent


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post Jan 9 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(akh731 @ Jan 9 2014, 09:00 PM)
ha ha.. RM drop ... investor come to buy house??

oversea investment need to consider foreign exchange...

people would like to put in the country that exchange rate appreciate instead depreciate..

if you think depreciate is better, why not go to zimbawai to buy house there... doh.gif
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Malaysia is not Zimbabwe. It's still a place where ppl would like to invest because of it's potential.

To top up on this matter. I'm thinking 2014 is really a bad time. With all the price hike and so on.. I'm pretty sure less ppl would be buying property. Topping the fact of the price hike, there are abundant homes got VP 2014 and worst case scenario would be 2015... Question is who would want to absorb these houses? i don't think flipper would be able to hold them.

Houses below RM500k would be impacted as foreign investors would not have a chance on them. Home prices above the RM1m mark would definitely suffer less ppl would want to risk buying them..

i really do think its a wait and see moment.
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post Jan 9 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 01:26 PM)
investment in property still one of best way to againts inflation...but must very careful....buy at good location...
but good and mature location price is not cheap...
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Cheap or expensive thing - there is always a market for it. The hurdle is to find customers for it. Yesteryears, some locations r jungle, plantation estates, mines but today gold mine! Dunno if u call it luck or wat, sometimes a fool has a fool's luck, they say. Midas' touch. Touch wat, wat turn into emas! thumbup.gif

IMHO, Too mature n concentrated a location, may not be as attractive as it sounds. Take Klcc areas. Would u really want to stay there huh? So jammed, so polluted, so packed with ppl, so high the buildings ( in case of tsunami,how to climb down all the way safely huh? ), not to mentioned very expensive ( and we have not taken into consideration the monthly maintenance fee, cost of living in the heart of a city.. Etc ). Would u really call such a condo home sweet home? Dunno leh, speaking for myself, the day I semi retire, I'd find a place a little away from the city, it's pollution n jams.
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post Jan 9 2014, 09:56 PM

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Imho, if there's any bubble, it'd be the property bubble in the mature town s n cities due to their already expensive prices ( driven by high demand) . Won't be any bubble bursting in smaller townships where the prices are reasonable n demand/ supply moderate.

That's why I think, it's a good idea if we spread the housing concentration out of kl per se, n offer employment opportunities to ppl around these new areas. That way, mass migration to kl n demand 4 properties here can somehow be controlled.

If it's not because of commerce / cari makan, do u really think ppl from other states wanna migrate to kl huh?


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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 9 2014, 09:29 PM)
Malaysia is not Zimbabwe. It's still a place where ppl would like to invest because of it's potential.

To top up on this matter. I'm thinking 2014 is really a bad time. With all the price hike and so on.. I'm pretty sure less ppl would be buying property. Topping the fact of the price hike, there are abundant homes got VP 2014 and worst case scenario would be 2015... Question is who would want to absorb these houses? i don't think flipper would be able to hold them.

Houses below RM500k would be impacted as foreign investors would not have a chance on them. Home prices above the RM1m mark would definitely suffer less ppl would want to risk buying them..

i really do think its a wait and see moment.
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Think 2014.. Stil ada Many want to join in to buy a piece or a few of new props. Maybe 2016-17 Best time to shop for subsale?
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 9 2014, 09:56 PM)
Imho, if there's any bubble, it'd be the property bubble in the mature town s n cities due to their already expensive prices ( driven by high demand) . Won't be any bubble bursting in smaller townships where the prices are reasonable n demand/ supply moderate.

That's why I think, it's a good idea if we spread the housing concentration out of kl per se, n offer employment opportunities to ppl around these new areas. That way, mass migration to kl n demand 4 properties here can somehow be controlled.

If it's not because of commerce / cari makan, do u really think ppl from other states wanna migrate to kl huh?
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U mean built many satellite cities away from kl? Now klang valley ada banyak.... Heard macam ini Economy wise not healthy WOR. Government
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jan 9 2014, 09:29 PM)
Malaysia is not Zimbabwe. It's still a place where ppl would like to invest because of it's potential.

To top up on this matter. I'm thinking 2014 is really a bad time. With all the price hike and so on.. I'm pretty sure less ppl would be buying property. Topping the fact of the price hike, there are abundant homes got VP 2014 and worst case scenario would be 2015... Question is who would want to absorb these houses? i don't think flipper would be able to hold them.

Houses below RM500k would be impacted as foreign investors would not have a chance on them. Home prices above the RM1m mark would definitely suffer less ppl would want to risk buying them..

i really do think its a wait and see moment.
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property below 500k definetely i will buy....property above 1mil i also bought...but must b at strategic location....

i keep buying for last 5 years...n most of mine properties i oledi settled the loan...im not flipper...just not trust on our country currency only....

i think this market lot a people like me....

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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:07 PM)
property below 500k definetely i will buy....property above 1mil i also bought...but must b at strategic location....

i keep buying for last 5 years...n most of mine properties i oledi settled the loan...im not flipper...just  not trust on our country currency only....

i think this market lot a people like me....
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Err 500k for how big the size? 400sf Pigeon house?
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Err 500k for how big the size? 400sf Pigeon house?
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so far ...the smallest i bought is 1000sf......but with current price hike...is very difficult to find property 500psf.... cry.gif
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jan 9 2014, 09:59 PM)
Think 2014.. Stil ada Many want to join in to buy a piece or a few of new props. Maybe 2016-17 Best time to shop for subsale?
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speaking 4 myself, not really. Not really keen 2 buy this year. Unless prices drop like crazy or I strike lottery.

Also, no sub sale 4 me. I like brand new things with warranty ... tongue.gif Assets that offers deeper profit margin icon_rolleyes.gif I'm most happy if it's a good time for sub sale, though.... nod.gif
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:18 PM)
so far ...the smallest i bought is 1000sf......but with current price hike...is very difficult to find property 500psf.... cry.gif
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Why u want such small unit?
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jan 9 2014, 09:59 PM)
Think 2014.. Stil ada Many want to join in to buy a piece or a few of new props. Maybe 2016-17 Best time to shop for subsale?
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i not sure.. i bought one in August 2013.. This weekend i'm looking at another one.. planning to buy it because it's 30k cheaper than what others are selling.

QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:07 PM)
property below 500k definetely i will buy....property above 1mil i also bought...but must b at strategic location....

i keep buying for last 5 years...n most of mine properties i oledi settled the loan...im not flipper...just  not trust on our country currency only....

i think this market lot a people like me....
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i also agree.. our currency is too weak already. even if we are not buying property please don't keep cash. invest there somewhere else.. buy oversea bonds perhaps? That's why i'm planning to channel my cash flow back into property and perhaps take a 50% loan for a 400k 1000sft apartment.

QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jan 9 2014, 10:13 PM)
Err 500k for how big the size? 400sf Pigeon house?
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subsale still having alot 1000sft apartment. The problem with people and younger generation is that they do not have the first 15% payment. They rely on new development where it's 10% rebate.. free snp... That's why now days for >rm400k new development we are talking about pigeon hole. sad.gif

btw.. I'm also Gen Y hahahaha.
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:18 PM)
so far ...the smallest i bought is 1000sf......but with current price hike...is very difficult to find property 500psf.... cry.gif
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Around 1000sf still consider healthy size for me and good for long term.... I think...a bit No eye see 500k for size below 700sf....And getting sibeh banyak and away from kl city.... Local so fast want to stay like hongky style... Sibeh Sempit.
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:07 PM)
property below 500k definetely i will buy....property above 1mil i also bought...but must b at strategic location....

i keep buying for last 5 years...n most of mine properties i oledi settled the loan...im not flipper...just  not trust on our country currency only....

i think this market lot a people like me....
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so all yr $ u put in properties? N u hold on to these properties ( instead of keeping $ in banks?) What's d longest period u hold on 2 a property b4 selling it?

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jan 9 2014, 10:27 PM)
Around 1000sf still consider healthy size for me and good for long term.... I think...a  bit No eye see 500k for size below 700sf....And getting sibeh banyak and away from kl city.... Local so fast want to stay like hongky style... Sibeh Sempit.
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yup...1000sf still can for 2 generation....a couples n with 2 kids....

also dun understand the so called soho/sovo/sofo can buit at location at Bangi, Sg Buloh, Kajang...etc.... rclxub.gif

malaysia still got plently of land....but a lot of building built like pigeon hole....how to stay?? malaysia not singapore or hong kong... this bcos for greedy developers wanna to make maximum profits... mad.gif
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 9 2014, 10:29 PM)
so all yr $ u put in properties? N u hold on to these properties ( instead of keeping $ in banks?) What's d longest period u hold on 2 a property b4 selling it?
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im not put all my $$ in propeties....50% properties, 25% shares market, 10% FD, 5% Insurances 10% others like parents, car, holidays,.....

About the holding properties...still depand on individual invesment portfolio....shortest one year..... longest is forever...

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 9 2014, 10:24 PM)
Why u want such small unit?
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if today got developer sell new condo with 1000sf at 500k...located at Seri Kembangan or some where in Cheras....

i can bet u the units will 90% sapu within 2 days...

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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:36 PM)
yup...1000sf still can for 2 generation....a couples n with 2 kids....

also dun understand the so called soho/sovo/sofo can buit at location at Bangi, Sg Buloh, Kajang...etc.... rclxub.gif

malaysia still got plently of land....but a lot of building built like pigeon hole....how to stay?? malaysia not singapore or hong kong... this bcos for greedy developers wanna to make maximum profits... mad.gif
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we actually dont have much land left... those developer want to build something they need to beg from those jokers who once bought them at dirt cheap price. All used to use the term buying land to expand agriculture now...
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 9 2014, 10:48 PM)
if today got developer sell new condo with 1000sf at 500k..
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U misunderstood. Earlier, U mentioned it's difficult to find 500 sft unit. That's why I asked why u r interested in such small unit.

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