Ha3. Even a well engineered structure can fail, what do u expect those which has done by those who didnt even know physics n calculus.

U really dont understand engineering bro. Helping? Giving wrong advice can turn ur intention another way around.

When you do not agree you can ignore, ok? Let others judge themselves From a blog is better than some so claimed to be expert. I am not a civil engineer but my knowledge and experience don't fail me. I did my house extension 2 times on 2 houses already and am going to do another. No civil engineer. I have a niece a civil engineer expert in bridges but no need for her service for my house extension, not necessary at all.

If people need only experts to comments, this is not the place for putting your queries. Go see expert and pay and get conned. "Conned" here means pay unnecessarily.

Are you? if not shut up. Otherwise, answer my question. Did you or your parent did any house reno calling or paying a civil engineer???

Never claim as an expert. Time will tell bro. When ur luck faded away u will know. Even if u did ask ur neice, she will ask what is d soil load bearing capacity, else she wont signed anything.

Yes, but they dont pay anything because their son is one of them.

This post has been edited by platinum_12: Nov 17 2013, 07:54 PM

That's is interesting. So did the son did the load bearing and bring in equipment and load?

It was done long ago when d house was in design stage.

We engineer do things with data n figure n supported with enginering calculation. If anything were to hapen we have those to save our ass. But u, what u want to show to judges if something happen? Ur ass?

Soil data are important. U need to know what is undergrund, it might appear a solid n strong ground on d surface, but 10 feet below it might be a soft clay or even worst a landfill. If this is d case, if u choose a wrong method of foundation, it will affect d integrity of ur house, not now but in d future. It will slowly sinks.

This post has been edited by platinum_12: Nov 17 2013, 09:43 PM

Chill guys, everybody have their own view and experience. For instance, the indonesian wak kang have done all sort of construction (focus on housing ok).. they dont need laser kinda thiggy, the dont need calculator but yet they knw how to do it as experience play the main role..

for civil engineer, yes, it is undeniable their role to assist in designing the solid structure of the building or any other construction. Architect dreams, Engineer nightmare.

In a nut shell, both of u got the point....both of u r right.

Yup. But the way he gave his statement seems like we are useless. So i hit him as hard as i could.

So, you do not want to answer my question, right? no load test no telling what kind of test, so you are lying. What kind of engineer are you? Dont mind show a copy of photo the cert or ass? And so how your brother use what to see 10 feet under the ground? Your bro got the equipment? The one empty talk is you that is why you are so defensive otherwise the conversation should have ended long before. What have you commented? Nothing but get an engineer, get an engineer....engineer...engineer, we are engineers... I have so many engineers surrounding me and none show off, hardware, IT, software, civil, mechanic, telecommunication, electronics. None says we engineers... something like that to push for a point.

Cert pls or ass

OMG dont know there were "suspicious Engineers" lurking around Malaysia to attack their helpless victims.

Please also look out for and avoid all the "Suspicious Doctors", Suspicious Pharmacists", "Suspicious Accountants"

PMSL

Seriously, Engineers have studied their profession for a minimum of 4 yrs and are accountable and liable for the technical advice they give. eg if the house collapses due to their negligence or incompetence they are held personally liable for the material damages and they can be found guilty of manslaughter if there are any casualties.

An Engineer acting in the capacity of a consultant must be Chartered/registered with the Board of Engineers Malaysia or an equivalent such Engineering Society/Association that regulates its members (eg Institute of Engineers Australia).

Chartered Engineers must maintain their rating by completing a prescribed amount of Professional Development each year.

Engineering is serious business conducted by trained serious professionals that are held accountable for their advice by their Professional Body, the Govt and the Courts. Engineering is not something to be performed by a bunch of "Indon labourers" that don't know the folly of their half-baked "engineering advice".

Also AFAIK it is not expensive to engage an appropriate Structural/Civil Engineer to do the necessary minor calcs of footing, column, beam and slab specs that you would need for a 2nd storey extension. In any case I believe you can't/shouldn't get local authority approval for such an extesion without such Engineers calcs and drawings.

BTW I am hold the appropriate Engineer qualifications and Chartered status in Mechanical, Industrial, Structural and Aerospace Engineering. Though not holding any formal qualifications in Civil Engineering, I have also studied enough of Civil engineering to know what I'm talking about on the subject of footings.


Cheers

Ok la bro. U win lah.. here ur throphy. Congrates..

Me too, a proud enginering bachelor n registered engineer with bem.

Thanks for the trophy, not throphy, mr proud engineer.

Well written. But there is something we called real world as the world we are actually living in. All these approvals and engineers specs are mostly non-existing but just rubber stamps! Draft man draw and engineer sign and stamp, local authority sign and stamp and indon construct the reno extension. No engineer come to site even step in to look at it! So, If you were to hire an engineer the most is he steps on site, curi curi test and charge you a fee. So, suspicious engineer he is because he can even signs and stamps without being on site on most occasions. That is reality otherwise please tell me all these reno extensions all of them hire engineers and so to be approved by local council? We buy the stamp only la.

Ur r welcome. Miss english teacher.

Haha...Teacher teaches you learn, ok. If not when you do your spec and if you accidentally wrote an extra digit "0" it is 10X more.

Ok noted with thanks. We have systems to avoid such mistakes, dont u worried.