If they are of different class, comparing them will dwarfed one and not do it justice!
Peugeot 408 1.6T OR 2nd Hand Volkswagen Jetta 1.4, Only consider these 2
Peugeot 408 1.6T OR 2nd Hand Volkswagen Jetta 1.4, Only consider these 2
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Nov 10 2013, 02:53 PM
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If they are of different class, comparing them will dwarfed one and not do it justice!
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Nov 10 2013, 03:13 PM
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SEGMENT
ˈsɛgm(ə)nt/ noun 1. each of the parts into which something is or may be divided. "a large segment of the local population" synonyms: piece, part, bit, section, chunk, division, portion, slice, fragment, component, wedge, lump, slab, hunk, parcel, tranche; More antonyms: whole a portion of time allocated to a particular broadcast item on radio or television. "they probably want to tape you for the eleven o'clock segment" a separate broadcast item, typically one of a number that make up a particular programme. "Hammond and the others were filming a segment for his programme" 2. GEOMETRY a part of a figure cut off by a line or plane intersecting it, in particular:. the part of a circle enclosed between an arc and a chord. the part of a line included between two points. the part of a sphere cut off by any plane not passing through the centre. 3. ZOOLOGY each of the series of similar anatomical units of which the body and appendages of some animals are composed, such as the visible rings of an earthworm's body. 4. PHONETICS the smallest distinct part of a spoken utterance, especially with regard to vowel and consonant sounds rather than stress or intonation. verb verb: segment; 3rd person present: segments; past tense: segmented; past participle: segmented; gerund or present participle: segmenting sɛgˈmɛnt/ 1. divide (something) into separate parts or sections. "the unemployed are segmented into two groups" synonyms: divide, divide up, subdivide, separate, split, split up, cut up, carve up, slice up, break up, dismember; CLASS klɑːs noun 1.a set or category of things having some property or attribute in common and differentiated from others by kind, type, or quality. "it has good accommodation for a hotel of this class" synonyms: category, grade, rating, classification, group, grouping, bracket, set, division More BIOLOGY a principal taxonomic grouping that ranks above order and below phylum or division, such as Mammalia or Insecta. BRIT. a division of candidates according to merit in a university examination. "he received a third class in literae humaniores" 2. a system of ordering society whereby people are divided into sets based on perceived social or economic status. "people who are socially disenfranchised by class" synonyms: social division, social order, social stratum, rank, level, echelon, group, grouping, set, caste; This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 10 2013, 03:15 PM |
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Nov 10 2013, 03:21 PM
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i schooled in St Thomas High School, in A class is right, you cannot interchanged to segment A
In science lab, we cut the insect according to the different segment cannot interchanged with cut it into different class Cannot believe I have to give English lesson, aiyo |
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Nov 10 2013, 03:43 PM
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Well, if there's any instance that a dead horse could come to life, this would be it. Personally, I doubt Malaysians will ever accept the Peugeot brand of cars to be more premium over Volkswagen. They have a much better chance with Citroen, personally even I have a better impression and image of Citroen than I do of Peugeot.
Anyway, I'm moving on. This horse has been beaten to death and back. |
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Nov 10 2013, 04:42 PM
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U may find it surprising but I am not the first who disagree with evn the car maker definition of the car. Do you know Chevrolet classify their Malibu as mid size car despite its enormous size and ACCRIS members disagree and class it higher?
ACRISS is an Association formed by leading Car Rental and Global Distribution companies in Europe and high profile System innovators. Members are people like AVIS, Budget, Hetz, etc regard it as full size product http://www.budget.com/budgetWeb/html/en/cu...r/glossary.html Car Class Across the entire car rental industry, rental car classes include small (compact and economy), medium (intermediate and full-size), large (premium and luxury), SUV (intermediate, standard and full-size), specialty (convertibles, mini vans and 12-passenger vans) and Driver's Choice (other assorted car types). As you upgrade your car rental in class and price, you'll tend to find more extras like expanded passenger and leg room and better features. The rental car industry’s car-class terms and those of car manufacturers have never been fully synchronized. No matter which car rental company you do business with, you will notice that there are many more car groups offered than those described by manufacturers in their new car classifications. For example, Budget lists the Chevy Malibu within our full-size offerings, while Chevrolet classifies it as a mid-size. Budget considers the Malibu as a full-size product because it has the capacity in all metric categories (seating, trunk space, etc.) to qualify as a full-size vehicle. This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 10 2013, 04:43 PM |
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Nov 10 2013, 04:55 PM
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Nov 10 2013, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 10 2013, 03:21 PM) i schooled in St Thomas High School, in A class is right, you cannot interchanged to segment A Like what @zweimmk & and @kcng have said before.... different name, same meaning.In science lab, we cut the insect according to the different segment cannot interchanged with cut it into different class Cannot believe I have to give English lesson, aiyo In practical terms of automotive context, the terminologies segmentation & classification may also be described as a form of categorization, hence the interchangeability. Linguistically, some terminologies may have dynamic operability depending on context, purpose and what not. E.g. fat and obese carry different meaning in medical field i.e. rigid use, but they are used interchangeably beyond the field e.g. laymen. Even so, we do not force non-medical persons to subscribe to our rigid operational use of such terms nor ridicule them for not doing so as we are aware of its limitations and impracticalities. Btw, no one felt the need for an english lesson. Hopefully it doesn't stem from condescension on your part. Still, please note that your prevalent and persistent use of red herrings within the discussion will only serve to further reinforce your arguments as non-convincing and non-contextual, as illustrated by this discussion on use of terms. |
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Nov 10 2013, 08:14 PM
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Yawn
i have a segment D driving license This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 11 2013, 09:01 AM |
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Nov 11 2013, 09:26 AM
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i think i shall not embarrass u further...
and as zweimmk said, this is dead and buried... |
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Nov 11 2013, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 11 2013, 09:26 AM) ok, back into the shell where you belongFor the rest, you can read this your self and slap your face after This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 11 2013, 10:06 AM Attached File(s)
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Nov 11 2013, 10:45 AM
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The 408T is classified as a premium compact executive car
I could also say that the 408T belongs to the premium compact executive car segment. Is there really any difference in meaning? In Malaysia, people will always compare the 2 whether or not the 408T is a premium compact executive class car or Jetta is a mid compact family class car. All they really will care is the price of the car and what they are getting for the money. |
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Nov 11 2013, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 11 2013, 10:45 AM) The 408T is classified as a premium compact executive car don't know . Ask the smart ass industry connected KCng fellow.I could also say that the 408T belongs to the premium compact executive car segment. Is there really any difference in meaning? In Malaysia, people will always compare the 2 whether or not the 408T is a premium compact executive class car or Jetta is a mid compact family class car. All they really will care is the price of the car and what they are getting for the money. when I talk about class as in classification, he jump in and say i was talking about premium and then he mistook my classification of car as segmentation of car market and then you and AmenoJaku say it is interchangeable and the same. Well, why not continue telling me as you guys have, so far a) that I am misleading car buyers b) I am making all this up, a.k.a. delusional c) bring out red herring when all the reference sources are well documented d) that I am being cornered and not able despite telling in advance that i am not able to replied because of taking my family out and don't intend to talk about this and instead spend quality time with my family e) I was told to drop the subject (We ate dim sum at Marco Polo , KL, watched a few nice movies , Thor and then Carrie at GSC Pavillion, had a tea/beer break at Tom d*** & Harry, Pavillion, then dine and chatted at Khun Thai, Jln Gasing , PJ, not that that makes any freaking differences to the ill manner, disrespectful you know who) Accusations, one after another, while i was trying to have and keep a healthy debate Since he has all the answer, and you guys choose to believe him wholeheartedly, why not ask him? This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 11 2013, 11:17 AM |
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Nov 11 2013, 11:23 AM
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What is it about can't compare this to that because it's "different class". I read this too often. If you want to compare, there is nothing wrong with it. Differences in features, driving dynamics, comfort etc. all can be compared.
Class range(size) or price between the two vehicles can be different, but if people want to compare let them compare it. What is wrong with that. |
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Nov 11 2013, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 10 2013, 03:13 PM) SEGMENT Don't need to google and paste it here. Just a waste of space.ˈsɛgm(ə)nt/ noun 1. each of the parts into which something is or may be divided. "a large segment of the local population" synonyms: piece, part, bit, section, chunk, division, portion, slice, fragment, component, wedge, lump, slab, hunk, parcel, tranche; More antonyms: whole a portion of time allocated to a particular broadcast item on radio or television. "they probably want to tape you for the eleven o'clock segment" a separate broadcast item, typically one of a number that make up a particular programme. "Hammond and the others were filming a segment for his programme" 2. GEOMETRY a part of a figure cut off by a line or plane intersecting it, in particular:. the part of a circle enclosed between an arc and a chord. the part of a line included between two points. the part of a sphere cut off by any plane not passing through the centre. 3. ZOOLOGY each of the series of similar anatomical units of which the body and appendages of some animals are composed, such as the visible rings of an earthworm's body. 4. PHONETICS the smallest distinct part of a spoken utterance, especially with regard to vowel and consonant sounds rather than stress or intonation. verb verb: segment; 3rd person present: segments; past tense: segmented; past participle: segmented; gerund or present participle: segmenting sɛgˈmɛnt/ 1. divide (something) into separate parts or sections. "the unemployed are segmented into two groups" synonyms: divide, divide up, subdivide, separate, split, split up, cut up, carve up, slice up, break up, dismember; CLASS klɑːs noun 1.a set or category of things having some property or attribute in common and differentiated from others by kind, type, or quality. "it has good accommodation for a hotel of this class" synonyms: category, grade, rating, classification, group, grouping, bracket, set, division More BIOLOGY a principal taxonomic grouping that ranks above order and below phylum or division, such as Mammalia or Insecta. BRIT. a division of candidates according to merit in a university examination. "he received a third class in literae humaniores" 2. a system of ordering society whereby people are divided into sets based on perceived social or economic status. "people who are socially disenfranchised by class" synonyms: social division, social order, social stratum, rank, level, echelon, group, grouping, set, caste; |
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Nov 11 2013, 11:23 AM) What is it about can't compare this to that because it's "different class". I read this too often. If you want to compare, there is nothing wrong with it. Differences in features, driving dynamics, comfort etc. all can be compared. good ! now we are getting some where, yes, if they want to compare, they can compare and i cannot stop themClass range(size) or price between the two vehicles can be different, but if people want to compare let them compare it. What is wrong with that. if it is car market segmentation, would you not usually say, it is unfair to compare a A segment to a B segment car because it wouldn't be fair? Raise hand and say 'Aye' for those who has said so. Now when i see in terms of car classification terms by many institutions China-NCAP, EPA, HLDI, NHTSA, one car would be classified as a different class from another, and say should not compare because it wouldn't be fair Why the hell every one was so jumpy and raise all kind of alarms? |
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 11 2013, 09:42 AM) ok, back into the shell where you belong u might want to re-read that and understand it better...For the rest, you can read this your self and slap your face after then u will know i already mentioned this before few pages back... no point going into page 100 or 200 of google search to make a comeback... u keep shooting yourself in the foot time and time again... kinda embarrassing u know.... if you choose not to learn and still be ignorant, can't stop you right... |
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 11 2013, 01:12 PM) u might want to re-read that and understand it better... ? why coming out from the shell, thought u want to drop the subject and moved on?then u will know i already mentioned this before few pages back... no point going into page 100 or 200 of google search to make a comeback... u keep shooting yourself in the foot time and time again... kinda embarrassing u know.... if you choose not to learn and still be ignorant, can't stop you right... |
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 11 2013, 11:49 AM) good ! now we are getting some where, yes, if they want to compare, they can compare and i cannot stop them Because I have hurt their German VW loving pride? perhaps? if it is car market segmentation, would you not usually say, it is unfair to compare a A segment to a B segment car because it wouldn't be fair? Raise hand and say 'Aye' for those who has said so. Now when i see in terms of car classification terms by many institutions China-NCAP, EPA, HLDI, NHTSA, one car would be classified as a different class from another, and say should not compare because it wouldn't be fair Why the hell every one was so jumpy and raise all kind of alarms?[SIZE=7] |
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 11 2013, 02:27 PM) Why you're answering yourself??? LOL!Honestly, segmentation or classification of cars, even if Peugeot wants to classify the P408T as an entry level luxury premium compact car or whatever it is - at the end of the day, it's still doesn't change anything except the price. And I don't think the average consumer really care how they want classify their cars. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 11 2013, 03:07 PM) Why you're answering yourself??? LOL! just wondering is that it? if it is, then now I understand. Should have seen it coming Honestly, segmentation or classification of cars, even if Peugeot wants to classify the P408T as an entry level luxury premium compact car or whatever it is - at the end of the day, it's still doesn't change anything except the price. And I don't think the average consumer really care how they want classify their cars. |
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