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post Dec 21 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 21 2013, 12:53 PM)
BTW guys rhbosk indo equity as well eastspring indo equity took a big loss this couple of month..drop ard 20-30% in nav value.... an y of u guys interested to go in on this unit and hope it will bounce strngly later?
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hmm.gif has their fundamental and valuation changed as big?
it may continue to drop or stayed low for sometime...just like the China funds in the 2008
hmm.gif for me, I think I will stay away from this direct country specific only funds. My risk appetite is limited .... sweat.gif sweat.gif my Asia x Jpn funds did have some exposure in it.
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post Dec 21 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 21 2013, 12:41 PM)
Hi bro. I'm just newly invest as well. R u an active trader WHR u buy n sell frequently or u buy n only sell in few years time after considerable profit have been achieve?
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I'm not an active trader at all - often I just buy then don't check for quite some time. Not looking to sell at present unless significant gains have been made as I'm holding for the long term and looking to diversify rather than sitting on cash.

I'm not heavily invested at the moment - less than 9.5% of my assets are in funds/equities.

Although looking to increase this a lot over time, especially the weak MYR hasn't been good to me recently shocking.gif


QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 21 2013, 12:53 PM)
BTW guys rhbosk indo equity as well eastspring indo equity took a big loss this couple of month..drop ard 20-30% in nav value.... an y of u guys interested to go in on this unit and hope it will bounce strngly later?
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I'm interested in Indonesia focussed funds too , performance has been pretty poor

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But if you look at USDIDR / MYRIDR the IDR has lost a fair bit of value over the last year - but those 2 funds are MYR based so taking into account the currency drop ... fund performance hasn't been too bad just the IDR being cheap! :

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The JCI has lost less than 1% during this year. Cheap time to buy Indonesian stocks / funds, tempted blush.gif

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post Dec 21 2013, 06:19 PM

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Recent article RE Indonesia

http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/11/0...yone-thinks-so/
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post Dec 21 2013, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 21 2013, 07:01 PM)
I'm not an active trader at all - often I just buy then don't check for quite some time. Not looking to sell at present unless significant gains have been made as I'm holding for the long term and looking to diversify rather than sitting on cash.

I'm not heavily invested at the moment - less than 9.5% of my assets are in funds/equities.

Although looking to increase this a lot over time, especially the weak MYR hasn't been good to me recently  shocking.gif
I'm interested in Indonesia focussed funds too , performance has been pretty poor

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But if you look at USDIDR / MYRIDR the IDR has lost a fair bit of value over the last year - but those 2 funds are MYR based so taking into account the currency drop ... fund performance hasn't been too bad just the IDR being cheap! :

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The JCI has lost less than 1% during this year. Cheap time to buy Indonesian stocks / funds, tempted  blush.gif
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good insight...i already bought eastpring indo equity fund rm2k on 18th....if it drops another 5% or more ill keep buying it in multiples of 2k... hope to see indo market rebound back in the coming months...
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 21 2013, 07:00 PM)
good insight...i already bought eastpring indo equity fund rm2k on 18th....if it drops another 5% or more ill keep buying it in multiples of 2k... hope to see indo market rebound back in the coming months...
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Lets see how it goes. I may add some and revisit in 3-4 months time to see what the situation is then with both the Indonesian market + currency.

Also considering a more "matured" fund - ie : 2]1]FOALL$$ALL_263&ClientFund=1&LanguageId=en-GB&CurrencyId=EUR&UniverseId=FOALL$$ALL_263&BaseCurrencyId=USD]This

Which is denominated in USD (as I have some USD to invest) This fund has been going since 1994 so there's also more history of past performance :

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Suddenly FSM thread become so anal with charts sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 21 2013, 07:29 PM)
Suddenly FSM thread become so anal with charts sweat.gif
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Charts are easier on the eyes than a bunch of numbers drool.gif
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 21 2013, 08:25 PM)
Lets see how it goes. I may add some and revisit in 3-4 months time to see what the situation is then with both the Indonesian market + currency.

Also considering a more "matured" fund - ie : 2]1]FOALL$$ALL_263&ClientFund=1&LanguageId=en-GB&CurrencyId=EUR&UniverseId=FOALL$$ALL_263&BaseCurrencyId=USD]This

Which is denominated in USD (as I have some USD to invest) This fund has been going since 1994 so there's also more history of past performance :

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based on ur historical charts now is definitely the mega sale discount time to buy indo funds... icon_idea.gif fingers crossed though and hope can profit in the long run with this scalping method...
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 21 2013, 07:46 PM)
based on ur historical charts now is definitely the mega sale discount time to buy indo funds...  icon_idea.gif fingers crossed though and hope can profit in the long run with this scalping method...
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I'll sit on the fence - the index has risen a lot in the last 5 years (difference between now and today 5 years ago is greater than 300%!)

But looking at currency history it's at a 5 year low against MYR so there may be some upside there too blush.gif either way, quite high risk (IMO, of course smile.gif)

Another option would be just to play the currency only (any banks in Malaysia offering IDR deposit accounts? sweat.gif )

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 21 2013, 11:52 PM)
I'll sit on the fence - the index has risen a lot in the last 5 years (difference between now and today 5 years ago is greater than 300%!)

But looking at currency history it's at a 5 year low against MYR so there may be some upside there too  blush.gif either way, quite high risk (IMO, of course smile.gif)

Another option would be just to play the currency only (any banks in Malaysia offering IDR deposit accounts?  sweat.gif )
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indeed thats impressive! the cycle seems typical to malaysia stock market and equity scene on 2008... average all malaysia equity unit trust performance between 2008 up until today is around 125%-150% increase in value...

it is a very high risk and bordering speculative but if one is able to take risk and can hold for the next few years im confident the return will be almost similar to 2008 bounce... double or more your invesment value in 4-5 years time sweat.gif
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Want to ask: I'm first time buying into kenanga growth fund via EPF. Can i email the a scanned copy of the form to them or I have to mail them a hard copy? unsure.gif
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post Dec 22 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(joylay83 @ Dec 22 2013, 11:19 PM)
Want to ask: I'm first time buying into kenanga growth fund via EPF. Can i email the a scanned copy of the form to them or I have to mail them a hard copy?  unsure.gif
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hmm.gif I guess you cannot scan the form.
because there is a requirement to use original kwsp 9N form
see other requirements
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=9567
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post Dec 23 2013, 12:02 PM

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JUst a note from FSM (malaysia)

and also HSAQ discounted SC ending next week


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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 23 2013, 01:02 PM)
JUst a note from FSM (malaysia)

and also HSAQ discounted SC ending next week
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HSAQ not end next Tuesday?
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post Dec 23 2013, 12:17 PM

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hmm.gif next tuesday is not in next week, no-no ? rclxub.gif
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asia market turn green today... hihihihi
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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Dec 23 2013, 12:25 PM)
asia market turn green today... hihihihi
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Indonesia and malaysia mkts also?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 23 2013, 12:29 PM)
Indonesia and malaysia mkts also?
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both still red.... hihihihi
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 23 2013, 01:17 PM)
hmm.gif next tuesday is not in next week, no-no ? rclxub.gif
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alamak.. my fault, ready too fast and reply too fast... tongue.gif soli soli
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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Dec 23 2013, 02:07 PM)
both still red.... hihihihi
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come on.. red somemore, so I can buy in a little.. tongue.gif

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