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 employers not fond of msian uni grads?, something to ponder on..

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post Oct 23 2013, 08:11 AM, updated 12y ago

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post Oct 23 2013, 08:57 AM

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what happened ?
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:11 AM

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i wonder how many people contributed data for malaysia as compared to the other countries?
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:38 AM

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can't see what you've posted. the link seems to be broken too.
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post Oct 23 2013, 12:26 PM

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post Oct 23 2013, 02:05 PM

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Given a choice, I would prefer a foreign grad but then.....

A fren's son graduated from a oz university and wrote in to apply for a post with an international bank. He was among the 100 shorlisted and was given a short interview over the phone and thereafter was among the few shortlisted and asked to attend an interview in person.

He speaks good english and was a good communicator but the interviewer was in for a shock when he notice from the results transcript that this chap just merely passed most of his papers with some supplementary passes.

If it was a marketing position it doesn't really matter but this position deals with analysis of figures and comes up with a summary and interpretations.


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post Oct 23 2013, 05:15 PM

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Impossible to have all student graduated from above universities
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post Oct 23 2013, 06:33 PM

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post Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 23 2013, 11:11 AM)
i wonder how many people contributed data for malaysia as compared to the other countries?
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no idea... dont know the methodology.. they are not professional stats coy

QUOTE(mycolumn @ Oct 23 2013, 11:38 AM)
can't see what you've posted. the link seems to be broken too.
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not broken leh..

QUOTE(Pacmangoku @ Oct 23 2013, 12:26 PM)
Too bad not all of us can afford to study abroad  sad.gif
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heh? scholarship?

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post Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Oct 23 2013, 02:05 PM)
Given a choice, I would prefer a foreign grad but then.....

A fren's son graduated from a oz university and wrote in to apply for a post with an international bank. He was among the 100 shorlisted and was given a short interview over the phone and thereafter was among the few shortlisted and asked to attend an interview in person.

He speaks good english and was a good communicator but the interviewer was in for a shock when he notice from the results transcript that this chap just merely passed most of his papers with some supplementary passes.

If it was a marketing position it doesn't really matter but this position deals with analysis of figures and comes up with a summary and interpretations.
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i also merely pass during uni time... but from kindergarten all the way till college i had straight As.... probably lost interest or teenage puppy love broke my heart... anyway, i found out that in local unis, 1/3 of the class gets 1st class hons... and some of these students dont even have a single A or usually pretty poor results during high school.. not implying that all grads from local gov unis are not up to par, but it says something.. and these are from um, ukm, usm..

QUOTE(cnvery @ Oct 23 2013, 05:15 PM)
Impossible to have all student graduated from above universities
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impossible for everyone to be rich, impossible for everyone to do well, impossible for a lot of things...

QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 23 2013, 06:33 PM)
What is alaskanbunny's point? hmm.gif
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just sharing something i had found on the net..

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM)
just sharing something i had found on the net..
Thanks! It was a good factual-sharing from the non-academic perspective. icon_rolleyes.gif

Do you want to change people's perception of Malaysian Universities? unsure.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 24 2013, 12:49 AM)
Do you want to change people's perception of Malaysian Universities? unsure.gif
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definitely.. and hopefully one day i can be proud to be promoting the premier msian school to others... but unfortunately and sad to say, chances of this happening is diminishing year by year...
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post Oct 24 2013, 04:39 AM

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woot in the top 100!
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post Oct 24 2013, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM)
i also merely pass during uni time... but from kindergarten all the way till college i had straight As.... probably lost interest or teenage puppy love broke my heart... anyway, i found out that in local unis, 1/3 of the class gets 1st class hons... and some of these students dont even have a single A or usually pretty poor results during high school.. not implying that all grads from local gov unis are not up to par, but it says something.. and these are from um, ukm, usm..

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You had the intelligence but got love struck. The interviewer would have asked you, what happened?

Unfortunately, first impression counts unless limited choices
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post Oct 24 2013, 09:11 AM

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In my experience, it all depends on your employer, some employer only see the academic achievements, some see attitude.. i dunno how the survey is being done, but fresh grads from local uni still can cari makan.. haha...
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post Oct 24 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 23 2013, 08:11 AM)
well this survey is conducted globally so highly unlikely Malaysia uni will be in the chart. however if its a local survey,then Malaysian uni would be well placed
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it depends on the employers and also the companies. Most companies still employ local grads because either they are cheapskate (most of the time local grads demand lower salary) or they have no other option because oversea grads are rare
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post Oct 24 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM)
i also merely pass during uni time... but from kindergarten all the way till college i had straight As.... probably lost interest or teenage puppy love broke my heart... anyway, i found out that in local unis, 1/3 of the class gets 1st class hons... and some of these students dont even have a single A or usually pretty poor results during high school.. not implying that all grads from local gov unis are not up to par, but it says something.. and these are from um, ukm, usm..
impossible for everyone to be rich, impossible for everyone to do well, impossible for a lot of things...
just sharing something i had found on the net..
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what you mentioned is actually very common in a lot of universities. take note that the method of learning and examination during primary, secondary schools and college is quite different when compared to university. hence the difference in results.

a person who merely passed in secondary school could be a top scorer in university and vice versa.

in fact, you even see this during the transition from lower secondary to upper secondary too (going from pure multiple choice exams to short question & essay questions)
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post Oct 24 2013, 11:59 AM

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it's same like in out countries.
i do personally know a few companies in uk are outsourcing their cad drawings to india so that they don't need to hire a full time cad operator

Us too at times hire outside people because if i'm not mistaken , most foreigners are happy to have a job and would end working extra just to keep that job secure, whereas their own people tend to take things for granted.

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