employers not fond of msian uni grads?, something to ponder on..
employers not fond of msian uni grads?, something to ponder on..
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Oct 23 2013, 06:33 PM
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What is alaskanbunny's point?
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Oct 24 2013, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM) just sharing something i had found on the net.. Thanks! It was a good factual-sharing from the non-academic perspective. Do you want to change people's perception of Malaysian Universities? |
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Oct 24 2013, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(malleus @ Oct 24 2013, 11:57 AM) in fact, you even see this during the transition from lower secondary to upper secondary too (going from pure multiple choice exams to short question & essay questions) Are you hinting that statistically, students tend to do better in Soalan Aneka Pilihan (SAP) than in Essay-type questions (long answers) or Problems/Computational questions? |
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Oct 24 2013, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(malleus @ Oct 24 2013, 12:18 PM) no, I'm saying that there are those who do well in one, and there are others who do better in the other. True! |
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Oct 24 2013, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 24 2013, 06:23 PM) You mean local unis or private unis ? Does it make any difference? |
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Oct 24 2013, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 24 2013, 08:34 PM) but unfortunately non are up to standard including UM... so sad to say exactly against what academic standard? |
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Oct 25 2013, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 24 2013, 11:45 PM) definitely not the local msian standard.. Alright! Even when you claimed that any of these hardly exist, they are good criteria. Now, let's go 360°. hardly any of these exist... Generally, when we set standards for people, we need to ensure that the standard we set is not open to misinterpretation and provide as much appropriate detail as it can. One tried and trusted method that is used by numerous organizations in all sectors, is called S.M.A.R.T. Standard. You probably already know S.M.A.R.T. stands for: S = Specific M = Measurable A = Achievable R = Relevant T = Time-bound Here are some examples to you would want to tie in to globally acceptable S.M.A.R.T. Standard. Without that, the criteria will probably end up with paradoxical thinking, e.g., "I define the BEST, so this must be the BEST." (1) What specifically is the BEST? (2) How many individuals should the university train them to think for themselves? (3) What are the reasons they don't like to be challenged? Lack confidence in their own ability? Or fear they are being set up to fail? (4) How relevant would you like the universities to show contributions to the society? (5) When is the good time to bring betterment to humankind? This post has been edited by Critical_Fallacy: Oct 25 2013, 01:01 AM |
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May 26 2014, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(TheOwl @ May 21 2014, 04:19 AM) I would say it's a FACT. Many students are unable to handle computational questions bcs they cannot analyse or think logically. They are unable to handle essay-type questions bcs they are weak in language,esp'ly english and poor in logical thinking/analysis. Bcs of spoon-feeding and the lack of reading they cannot write on questions that require some facts. I've seen exam transcripts of of Form 4/5/6 students and undergrads. How could they expect to be given 15-25 marks by writing a one-sentence answer to an open-ended question like ... Why do you agree or disagree? The answer - I agree bcs ...or I disagree bcs ... that's all. No elaboration. They do not know how to present their case,how to argue for or against etc,how to persuade the readers to agree with their views which they dun seem to have. That's the low quality of students and graduates today. +1 There are also masters and Phd students of such low calibre. You should read the kind of sentences these post-grad students write. Even those at the NUS can't write well. I've seen some in my time. ![]() |
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