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employers not fond of msian uni grads?, something to ponder on..
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Oct 23 2013, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 23 2013, 11:11 AM) no idea... dont know the methodology.. they are not professional stats coyQUOTE(mycolumn @ Oct 23 2013, 11:38 AM) not broken leh..QUOTE(Pacmangoku @ Oct 23 2013, 12:26 PM) heh? scholarship? |
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Oct 23 2013, 02:05 PM) Given a choice, I would prefer a foreign grad but then..... i also merely pass during uni time... but from kindergarten all the way till college i had straight As.... probably lost interest or teenage puppy love broke my heart... anyway, i found out that in local unis, 1/3 of the class gets 1st class hons... and some of these students dont even have a single A or usually pretty poor results during high school.. not implying that all grads from local gov unis are not up to par, but it says something.. and these are from um, ukm, usm..A fren's son graduated from a oz university and wrote in to apply for a post with an international bank. He was among the 100 shorlisted and was given a short interview over the phone and thereafter was among the few shortlisted and asked to attend an interview in person. He speaks good english and was a good communicator but the interviewer was in for a shock when he notice from the results transcript that this chap just merely passed most of his papers with some supplementary passes. If it was a marketing position it doesn't really matter but this position deals with analysis of figures and comes up with a summary and interpretations. QUOTE(cnvery @ Oct 23 2013, 05:15 PM) impossible for everyone to be rich, impossible for everyone to do well, impossible for a lot of things...QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 23 2013, 06:33 PM) just sharing something i had found on the net..This post has been edited by alaskanbunny: Oct 24 2013, 12:54 AM |
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Oct 24 2013, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 24 2013, 12:49 AM) definitely.. and hopefully one day i can be proud to be promoting the premier msian school to others... but unfortunately and sad to say, chances of this happening is diminishing year by year... |
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Oct 24 2013, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Oct 24 2013, 09:01 AM) You had the intelligence but got love struck. The interviewer would have asked you, what happened? they did, i mentioned i gotta work while i study Unfortunately, first impression counts unless limited choices well... went through 4 interviewers, the 1st to 3rd didnt look at my results and the 3rd was the ceo.. she accepted me.. the 4th was the chairman, when he noticed, it was too late for him to retract... hahahaha, a little bit of luck QUOTE(ryan18 @ Oct 24 2013, 10:20 AM) well this survey is conducted globally so highly unlikely Malaysia uni will be in the chart. however if its a local survey,then Malaysian uni would be well placed well, it was conducted in countries that are listed below, including malaysia... therefore recruiters from even msia are within the sampleQUOTE(malleus @ Oct 24 2013, 11:57 AM) what you mentioned is actually very common in a lot of universities. take note that the method of learning and examination during primary, secondary schools and college is quite different when compared to university. hence the difference in results. probably that was it... anyway, shouldnt have studied... i think i would have enjoyed being a pilot a person who merely passed in secondary school could be a top scorer in university and vice versa. in fact, you even see this during the transition from lower secondary to upper secondary too (going from pure multiple choice exams to short question & essay questions) |
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Oct 24 2013, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Oct 24 2013, 10:33 PM) definitely not the local msian standard..very easy, a crude method would be to take the criteria used by those ranking reports.. admit the best, create individuals that can think for themselves not mindless robots, challenge the norm when it is wrong, contribute to society, bring betterment to humankind... stuff like that hardly any of these exist... |
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QUOTE(TheOwl @ May 21 2014, 04:19 AM) There are also masters and Phd students of such low calibre. You should read the kind of sentences these post-grad students write. Even those at the NUS can't write well. I've seen some in my time. well, u cant take the few u know and generalize it across the whole school... apparently those u know arent up to par, ppl say if u wanna be successful u gotta mix with the right ppl which u arent doing... also internationally, ppl dont agree with what you're saying bout nus |
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QUOTE(TheOwl @ May 22 2014, 07:37 AM) I'm not just saying about NUS. It's happening all over the world at almost all the unis except perhaps the ivy leagues. It's the falling standards all over the world but it's worse in MY. How do you know I'm mixing with the wrong people? Dun tok like you know me. I could be doing better than you,you know and perhaps I am too so dun patronize. if it happens all over the world then its not a comparison point... with u saying 'except perhaps' means u are not too sure?standards arent dropping, because it is set by the general student population at that time and in fact it is going up not down due to competitiveness and increase population for the good schools well, u already mentioned bout u seeing some of them in your time, i didnt mention it... |
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QUOTE(ainafoon @ May 22 2014, 01:46 PM) If you plan to work in Malaysia, IPTA with cgpa around 3.5 is enough. I have friends graduated from UMT and Unimap working at Petronas and Intel now. Starting salary 3k+ hi there...the question is not whether enough or not... the question is whether they are up for high value employment.. 1. u can just handpick a few and use them as an example.. we should look at the cohort in general.. not the top 90% percentile... 2. petronas is a glc, intel in msia is a manufacturing cost centre... rm3k i must say is a reasonable pay in msia... but internationally, its not very good |
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