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post Feb 6 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(lelidanlyo @ Feb 6 2018, 12:27 AM)
Honda's quality really dropped when there is a huge sales which is sad for owners.
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What year your car again ?
2009 - 2015 design, major cost control by CEO Takanobu Ito trying to beat Toyota profitability
For sure when cost is a factor, quality goes down.

QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 6 2018, 10:02 AM)
Yeap, i wasn't really expecting for major parts like "steering rack" to go bad in less than 2 years. Perhaps, it's not Honda's problem, it's Honda "MALAYSIA's" problem.
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Yeah, possible, CKD, local suppliers for many parts.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Feb 6 2018, 11:08 AM)
I have to agree with you, the quality of Honda is now far below if compare against years back.

I used to drive Nisssan, no major parts go bad in the 1st few years.

But my G9 Accord 2.4, there are so many major parts went bad and claim warranty. The SC is very kind to claim warranty, but it is the hassle to go back for the part changed.
Things like engine mountings (full set), absorber mounts, window channel run, engine idle puley...those parts in my many previous cars, never need to change in the 1st few years.

But with my new Accord, all claim warranty in the 1st 3 years, really surprised me. Nissan seem much better in quality control.
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Yeah, 7th gen Accord quality is better, less parts failing prematurely.

At least with the new CEO Takahiro Hachigo, it looks like there is an improvement, starting with the Civic FC launched in 2016.
Feedback from friend with car accessories business, material quality much improved with the FC.
I see fender plastic also change and looks like the one used by Audi
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post Feb 12 2018, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(lelidanlyo @ Feb 11 2018, 02:13 AM)
I wonder what fuel is the best for our car?
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The car is designed to use petrol as fuel icon_rolleyes.gif
Of course can use those ethanol mix or convert to NGV also, but not best for the car.

Please don't use others like coal, diesel, kerosene, heavy fuel oil. tongue.gif confirm engine damage
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post Mar 15 2018, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Mar 14 2018, 09:26 AM)
SC no solution, i gave up already, SC cannot solve this issue.

one thing i have not tried = may be change the brake pad outside, see any difference? cause i suspect it is the materials used in honda brake pad.
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Go to spare part shop and ask for Brembo brand brake rotor, the normal OEM type replacement, not the slotted race type (unless u wanna pay more).
My ex-Honda SC mechanic told me this is a proven solution.

SC cannot because they will replace with original part.

Mine didn't have any problems, so didn't change, but the mechanic told me if ever I have the problem, don't bother to change to original rotor
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post May 7 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(terryfu @ May 7 2018, 04:28 AM)
Yeah. Need to really enjoy the car without paying bank. Been paying car loans like for all my life from Kelisa to city to 308T and now the accord.

Will see how long can ‘tahan’ 😅
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Go for used bro... only my 1st car was brand new because not familiar with cars and workshops.

My 2nd car was purchased used at 5 yrs old and is now 13 years old and still going strong.
My 3rd car was purchased at 8 years old and so far so good except for minor stuff that need fixing.

Yeah, would love to buy brand new, but unfortunately not rich enough.
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post May 7 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 7 2018, 11:32 AM)
:haha: what is your 2nd and 3rd car?

if continental cars, buy used very dangerous D:
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H.City, Civic and Accord respectively laugh.gif

Plan to get continental cars already, Japs driving, interior and power just cannot compare with the contis
Drove BMW, VW and Audi, so much better... just not as reliable sweat.gif
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post Jun 4 2018, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 1 2018, 12:34 PM)
Hi all, anyone tried stiff ring on our accord gen 9? will it reduce the bouncy effect?
The car was so bouncy. Mine was 2.0. Any solutions?
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My advise to you from own experience (on a Civic).. dun do it... it's an overpriced gimmick.
For my it interfered with the proper functioning of the suspension system as designed by the manufacturer

The bouncy effect got nothing to do with the stiff ring, the Accord suspension system was designed more for comfort.

If really want less bouncy, change to sports or adjustable suspension, but don't complaint later all interior parts loose and start to rattle

e.g my Civic is so noisy and rattle everywhere with the stiff ring, strut bars, anti-roll bars, adjustable suspension, etc ... the Accord is much more comfortable and quiet.
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post Jun 5 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 4 2018, 10:24 PM)
Bro, thanks for the advise but the accord bouncy was different. I was suspecting the suspension got problem. Simply say, it was bumpy for passenger but at the same time only driver can feel very bouncy as the car trying to adjust the spring/suspension back to normal position. Sorry. Cant find better description. Thanks anyway for the stiff ring advise.
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Have you tried the test of pushing each corner of the car down by hand, put your body weight into it when pushing down ?
It should easily return to the original height and you should not hear any weird sounds.
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post Jun 5 2018, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 5 2018, 12:00 PM)
Wonder if it happened to every honda accord. I knew another few owner. 3 among 5 reported the same thing.

That is where the idea if stiff ring can resolve this. Thanks.
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I assume you tried driving another owner Accord, same model ?
We are not sure if it's the car design, or just a problem with your car in particular.

To me the Accord has the stiffest suspension compared to Camry or Teana.
So it's the most stable of the 3.

I'm not sure exactly why, but my stock Accord takes corner better than my Civic which has all the bars, adjustable, etc
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post Jun 5 2018, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 5 2018, 05:02 PM)
Yes, same model. Some gen 9 and 9.5.

I agreed the accord handling is very good.

Just the comfort level very annoying. It wobble alot.
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laugh.gif then you need to get Lexus, Merc, BMW, Audi or at least VW already thumbup.gif
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post Jun 6 2018, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jun 6 2018, 09:49 AM)
Lexus, Merc = yes i love the smooth and sofa ride.

BMW, Audi, VW = also bit like honda, quite bumpy / sporty ride to me.
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Eh... i misunderstand TS requirement then hmm.gif
Complain was bouncy and not hard / firm.
I thought he don't want the sampan feeling, which was bouncy , wobbly

To me I don't like the sampan feeling of Nissan / Toyota..
I prefer the Honda / BMW / Audi firmness
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post Jun 10 2018, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(bamkai @ Jun 7 2018, 12:47 PM)
Any1 eyeing the new accord. Great 2.0 turbo + 10speed gear. Dont think malaysia will get tjat 2.0 turbo thou. . Anyhow when vs the new mazda6 and camry its the fastest interior quality also much better then the camry
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hmm.. but i think we will get the 2.0T... Honda is not as large as the other japs, their models more globally standardized.
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post Jun 11 2018, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(minibeany @ Jun 10 2018, 06:42 PM)
just wait... if 2019 launch the 1.5T, then the 2.0T will be 2020.  whistling.gif
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Hmm.. cannot lah... will eat into their Civic and CR-V sales.
Of course my opinion only.
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post Jun 13 2018, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jun 12 2018, 09:44 AM)
the introduction of the 2.0T here will not eat into the Civic or the CR-V sales because the latter 2 serves a whole different demographic.

while the current Civic and the 2018 Accord shares almost a similar outward appearance, their driving dynamics are still significantly different due to the size, weight and many other more. not many will want a car the size of an Accord (mid-size sedan) - it's just not "type R-ish" enough for them.

as for the CR-v, anyone who is in the market for a SUV will not consider a sedan as an alternative. they are more likely to consider its same class competitors, the 3008, CX5 - perhaps even the Boyue when it finally launches later this year.

the delay in launch is normal as there are many preparation that needs to be done - there will be a lot of machine replacements and tech implementations to the plant in Malacca before it can roll out its first Accord - Honda Malaysia also need to consider the timing gap - if it launches too early, they might not even be able to cover or justify the million dollars investment if the pre-orders do not come in.
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Since when the majority of Malaysian choose cars based on driving dynamics... we all here in Fast & Furious are biased of course laugh.gif

Maybe can argue between SUV and sedan... but Civic and Accord are both sedans, so they are the same market.
The Civic already using 1.5T, so if you launch an Accord 1.5T... it will need a price sweet spot (not too high, maybe 15-18K above the top spec Civic)

Most people i know also using SUV as a sedan... SUVs are basically sedan with higher seating position
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jun 13 2018, 09:49 AM)
The last I checked, both sedans were in different segments. Civics are C-segment sedans while the Accord sits comfortably in D. Did the Civic got promoted or the Accord got demoted? D:

SUVs are not high riding position sedans, SUVs are SUVs. High riding position sedans are crossovers like the CX3, HRv, KONA and others alike. If you take a sharp corner at the same speed as a sedan would, its passengers would probably being sway like in a swing dance :haha:
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I understand completely, those are the more technical explanations for us.

But considering people who are not into cars or those who don't care about segments, they don't differentiate that way. Just a demographic of the population

I know many who have moved from (note the 2 way arrows) B <--> C <--> D <--> SUV based on prices, looks, features, etc... not because it's a sedan or SUV or segment.

e.g a Honda City which has more space than a Toyota Camry.. so got people who effectively "downgraded" because the newer H. City was
"better" vs an older Toyota Camry based on his/her decision criteria that is more space oriented, and of course the price got a lot to do with it also.

e.g people who gave up their E segment 8th gen Accord for a C segment Civic because it looks better and has better response due to turbo, another who sold his <1 yr old Civic 1.5 TCP for the CR-V because it had Honda sensing

e.g an even funnier one, is someone who got the Vios because the older generation Altis and Camry had fugly fake wood interior which he just can't stand.

Taking corners is more about balls than type of cars... except for race drivers and maybe 1 crazy friend, I don't know of anyone else who willing to push the car cornering ability that much.


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post Jun 26 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(minibeany @ Jun 26 2018, 12:21 AM)
Gen10 the answer might be Malaysia wants cheaper roadtax, hence 1.5 turbo is good enough  mega_shok.gif
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Yeah... my annual road tax cost is more than my annual service cost for my 2.0 and 2.4 cars
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post Jun 27 2018, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jun 26 2018, 11:08 AM)
thought the yearly road tax for a 2.4l car is around RM780 only o_O?
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Yes, and my annual service cost is lower than that.... engine oil fully syn, filter, gearbox oil, other fluids that may need changing doesn't reach RM700
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 1 2018, 01:46 PM)
I was also surprised by honda malaysia part quality. Its still a very new car and yours have already some defects.

Mine was the leaking driveshaft and the driver vibrating side mirror. Both claim under warranty. Positive think is that honda malaysia is kinda easy to claim warranty if customer do complain to their sc and hotline.
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Honda Malaysia assembled CKD cars are known to have low quality parts, most parts are locally sourced anyway.
At least easy for you to claim.
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post Aug 21 2018, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(grisslebear @ Aug 21 2018, 10:31 AM)
Hi,

Apart from brake noise, anyone encounter rubber/sour smell when accelerating or driving at 80km/h above?
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Nope, unless like below.

QUOTE(kiatzz @ Aug 21 2018, 12:08 PM)
Yes, example after toll full throttle til 120KM it will have weird engine smell.
But i think that is kinda normal because previously my City'09 also having the same...
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Full throttle, engine hot, if your air-cond intake seal not so good then got smell i think....
You also get those exhaust smells in traffic or following behind buses and lorries ?

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post Aug 22 2018, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Aug 21 2018, 02:20 PM)
accord sound proofing really not good.
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QUOTE(grisslebear @ Aug 21 2018, 03:25 PM)
Fully agree with this...when above 120km/h the sound macam duduk kereta myvi je..no pun intended. But this are just the few cons that still willnot make me hate accord because the exterior is just a handsome car for this segment.
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Yeah, hopefully 10th gen is better.

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