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post Oct 25 2013, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(shinnasuka @ Oct 25 2013, 02:15 AM)
one question: How many km can i postpone for 1k service? Cuz mine is reaching 960 liao, but havent keluar salary for service. Can postpone until berapa km before habis warranty?
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Can exceed,but not too much la. Within 100-150 should be ok
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post Oct 25 2013, 07:23 AM

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A short review on the side bar after a night of test driving yesterday.

After installing my side bar, I found that my rear is behaving better comparing to before feels like the rear and front is more connected. Before this, my steering respond and handling of the car is quite nice already but the rear seems to have a mind of it's own in following the front and sometimes sudden change from 1 direction to another direction prompted the rear to skip a beat compare to the front and it wanders too much. In the beginning I have no plan to install the side bar and I thought if I keep tuning the suspension the problem will go away but I decided to give the side bar a shot.

Now with the side bar the rear follows what the front do every time monkey see, monkey do. The front turn in, the rear just follow as it is and on corner the rear feels more settle compare to before, which previously felt a bit unsettle. Sudden change of direction is much better now that I don't feel the rear going off on it's own. Now the car is just point and shoot when I wanted it to. Yesterday main test was mostly doing corners and change of direction (situation where you will mostly get at hair pin turn and those left right left right overlapping turns you get mostly on trunk roads.) In which I believe the side bar is for.

The only thing I really hate on the side bar is the installation process. It is difficult as F*ck and I think clear indication should be label on the bar left or right and installation guide should be provided.

This is just my very layman experience and I think on next TT maybe can go for another night drive with davidke20 and let him have gave his feedback on this also.
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post Oct 25 2013, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 25 2013, 02:16 AM)
i wish it's a DSG laugh.gif

and yes, you are absolutely right on the external factor.
guess what else is connected to the AT box? throttle input. and i'm WOT'ing at low rpm, which by its TCU, it will tell the AT box to downshift to provide extra torque, however as i said, it's already on a down hill and i had my ignition advanced with octane boosters to prevent knocking. about 1 sec only i'm in the redline on 2nd gear and the AT box realizes that and quickly upshifts.

remember what i said on the blessing/curse? in this case i guess it is a blessing in the sense that if it's a MT, the clutching action (granted, i'm not a good MT driver and/or used to short shifters) would take ages while on the TC, it's almost seamless considering the expensive lubes i feed it. but 1-2 seconds of wasted torque is still there from the 2 shifts.

speaking of oil visco, on the last few laps of my 2nd run, basically where everything is overheating/overheated to hell, the AT box is yielding as well... no ATF cooler, even good fluid means nothing when its oil is expanded/thinned and 3rd gear has over 2-3 second delay in shifts. was often stuck on 7.5-8k rpm on the straight despite i'm in D. it was to the point i had to let go throttle a bit and let the AT Box do its job with lesser engine pressure.
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Clutch slip liao lar sleep.gif Time to throw away AT box and go stick lar whistling.gif
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Do some of this before you hit the track - take not on how the girl reacted AFTER the pod


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ruby1288
post Oct 25 2013, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Oct 25 2013, 07:23 AM)
A short review on the side bar after a night of test driving yesterday.

After installing my side bar, I found that my rear is behaving better comparing to before feels like the rear and front is more connected. Before this, my steering respond and handling of the car is quite nice already but the rear seems to have a mind of it's own in following the front and sometimes sudden change from 1 direction to another direction prompted the rear to skip a beat compare to the front and it wanders too much. In the beginning I have no plan to install the side bar and I thought if I keep tuning the suspension the problem will go away but I decided to give the side bar a shot.

Now with the side bar the rear follows what the front do every time monkey see, monkey do. The front turn in, the rear just follow as it is and on corner the rear feels more settle compare to before, which previously felt a bit unsettle. Sudden change of direction is much better now that I don't feel the rear going off on it's own. Now the car is just point and shoot when I wanted it to. Yesterday main test was mostly doing corners and change of direction (situation where you will mostly get at hair pin turn and those left right left right overlapping turns you get mostly on trunk roads.) In which I believe the side bar is for.

The only thing I really hate on the side bar is the installation process. It is difficult as F*ck and I think clear indication should be label on the bar left or right and installation guide should be provided.

This is just my very layman experience and I think on next TT maybe can go for another night drive with davidke20 and let him have gave his feedback on this also.
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me wat ranjiao bar oso tak de yet.
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post Oct 25 2013, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 25 2013, 12:18 AM)
First of all, why alignment will lari? Take a look at the picture you posted. After the adjusting nut, immediately is the tie rod. That end was secured with a diameter around 3 inches rubber. After a while you drive, the rubber get harden, more free play on the tie end, you get all sort of funny toe reading.

Take not, the tie rod is attached on the knuckle that host the wheel bearing/drive shaft/disc brakes. At the bottom, it connected to another big bar, which is the lower arm. The connection point is a big round thing, that is the lower arm bush. If this part of rubber is too new(soft), your alignment will lari almost immediately after you drove off the alignment scale.

Just incase if you still not die heart to accept the fact alignment WILL lari, here's the picture of what normal LOWER ARM looks like.
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There's another 2 more mounting points that will contribute to alignment lari other than the 1 I explained above.

The above are the major contributor of alignment lari. So, what about camber? Regardless, I have previously said, camber screw are after market part for those who can't afford to change suspension bushing. Have a look at below picture, you'll immediately know why camber goes out even didn't hit pot hole. As long those numbered part got movement, the rubber will wear off/get harden and create clearance. Once clearance became significant, then it become camber misaligned/toe misaligned or both.

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Ady TT with my new boifren liao
Which is why your 3AT refused to drop gear whistling.gif Coz your higher RPM were useless, or to be more exact it's only a noise generator after that RPM. There's a reason why they name it TORQUE CONVERTER geh whistling.gif The amount of fluid passing around the fins are already fixed to the amount of torque it will change gear at certain speed yawn.gif


Toe lari. Pergi alignment lagi. Your current alignment totally f***ed up.

Pay attention, after konar your steering will auto correct back or you need to force the steering to turn back? Get alignment guy to check whether steering bush sudah haus.
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post Oct 25 2013, 09:02 AM

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hi all sifus..here some problem from my fren. she asked me this.

"Salam..nak tanya sikit. Sy baru pakai saga flx m bln 8 yg lepas. awal bln 10 kereta sy x pick up especially kt traffic light dan naik bukit. sy bwk kt proton..diaaorg service throttle body..pakai dlm 2 minggu jd balik mcm tu. Naik bukit mcm kura2. nak masuk gear pun susah..awk pernah ada masah yg sama tak? ada advice? thanks.."

hope we can give some help here..
tq
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post Oct 25 2013, 09:02 AM

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tu mounting mia hose manyak gooding thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
if you are a seasoned CBT driver, already know how to step/release the pedal to minimise the jerkings, adding tu hose can say jerking rate has reduced by big heaps and leaps.
sometimes none at all rolleyes.gif
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davidke20
if you rmb the sound that I showed u and tikus V12, tu memang confirmed mounting gosok gosok mia sound.
should be CBT mounting not engine.
after add tu hose, sound either dampened by dam alot or non-existent at times.

aiks this one settled, now need to settle tu battery tray.
ytd see, more n more white powder liao.
tu acid makan kau kau.

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post Oct 25 2013, 09:46 AM

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Salam 1Malaysia tongue.gif

siapa ye yang hari tu DIY hilangkan bunyi rattling pd sebelah passenger seat.

need your help. dat sound sangat annoying!

try search tp tak jumpa. diz thread is damn fast.. faster then our campro engine

neway, mlm ni ada tt kah?
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post Oct 25 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Oct 25 2013, 09:46 AM)
Salam 1Malaysia tongue.gif

siapa ye yang hari tu DIY hilangkan bunyi rattling pd sebelah passenger seat.

need your help. dat sound sangat annoying!

try search tp tak jumpa. diz thread is damn fast.. faster then our campro engine

neway, mlm ni ada tt kah?
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post Oct 25 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Oct 25 2013, 09:49 AM)
tq bro!
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post Oct 25 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Oct 25 2013, 09:50 AM)
tq bro!
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no problem good luck in DIY.
takut nanti tu fix, tempat lain bising lagi yawn.gif

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post Oct 25 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Oct 25 2013, 09:51 AM)
no problem good luck in DIY.
takut nanti tu fix, tempat lain bising lagi  yawn.gif
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hahaha... with saga, semua mslh boleh diselesaikan...
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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Oct 25 2013, 09:53 AM)
hahaha... with saga, semua mslh boleh diselesaikan...
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betul
tapi kita mia tag line = saga everyday need to fix one whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Oct 25 2013, 09:55 AM)
betul
tapi kita mia tag line = saga everyday need to fix one  whistling.gif
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Good thing I no buy Gaga. icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 25 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Oct 25 2013, 10:59 AM)
Good thing I no buy Gaga.  icon_idea.gif
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ur car is besi buruk one. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Oct 25 2013, 09:59 AM)
Good thing I no buy Gaga.  icon_idea.gif
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itu tag applies to all Plotong whistling.gif
Ini gaga tered, I say gaga.
Kalau persoga tered, I say persoga. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 25 2013, 10:02 AM)
ur car is besi buruk one.  whistling.gif
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blink.gif Nope, it is Nuffmobile. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Oct 25 2013, 09:59 AM)
Good thing I no buy Gaga.  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Oct 25 2013, 10:05 AM)
blink.gif Nope, it is Nuffmobile.  icon_question.gif
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Persoga Nuffmobile Edition Everyday Need to Fix One... cry.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Oct 25 2013, 11:05 AM)
blink.gif Nope, it is Nuffmobile.  icon_question.gif
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so u agree u pun Nuff jugak la. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Oct 25 2013, 07:23 AM)
This is just my very layman experience and I think on next TT maybe can go for another night drive with davidke20 and let him have gave his feedback on this also.
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omg omg taxi plz! maybe this time can go harder as you're probably more familiar with the "course" brows.gif

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