Get a 4' x 2' min. so no need to upgrade.

Jln Pasar price>
silver -RM38(most stalls)
Pearl - 45 (Alive)
YT - 90(LiChing)

This post has been edited by ChelseaFan: Dec 8 2006, 01:21 AM

There are basically four different varieties of Red Arowanas namely Blood Red, Chili Red, Orange Red and the
Golden Red. In recent years, Chili Red, Blood Red, Orange Red and Golden Red are grouped together and
termed Super Red or `First Grade Red'. It has made the termed `Super Red' inferior since Orange Red and
Golden Red do not bear the qualities of the former two and they have only comparatively colors appear either
in orange or golden orange. The usage of terms has indeed changed over the years and the term Super Red is
now becoming more commonly used among breeders when naming their red arowanas.
The Chili Red and Blood Red are both originated from two famous waters in Western Kalimantan, Indonesia
called the River Kapuas and Lake Sentarum. Lake Sentarum, consisting of many smaller lakes interlinked
between each other, is at one end of River Kapuas. These waters are covered by the thick Peat Forest which
provides a very primitive environment for these Jurassic fishes, but with its naturally occurring minerals,
blackwater and abundance of food source produce very positive effects on the colors of this particular variety of
Asian Arowana. Also the vast areas of red arowanas habitat may be the reason behind the variations within the
red arowana variety. Some seem to have broader body, steeper spoonheads, greater red intensity and heavier
base colors than others, just for example. And, it is because of such differences in appearance, the early
dealers in Indonesia created another two general terms for two main groups of red-turning arowanas found in
that region. They are Chili Red and Blood Red. The names Chili and Blood were given because of their
difference in red intensity, Chili Red has a chili color while Blood Red has a red color that looks like blood color.
Apart from colors, Chili Red and Blood Red are also different in terms of shape. While Chili Red is broader in
shape, Blood Red is longer and slimmer. This broadness can be seen between the back and the bottom of the
body of a Chili Red that is both thick and wide. This wideness extends all the way backward to tail of the fish
rather than one that the usual tapering downwards to the tail, which belongs to that of a Blood Red. This
difference in shape together with its thick frame scales, spoonhead and intensified red color scales has made
the Chili Red look more massive, forceful, well-balanced and prosperous-looking.

The Chili Red also has large red-colored eyes and a diamond-shaped tail while
the Blood Red has whiter and smaller eyes and a big wide-opened fan-shaped
tail. Chili Reds has eyes so big that sometimes the edges of the eyes actually
"touch" the top of the head and the lower jaws. The tail of Chili Red is obvious
diamond-shaped which can be large and outward-extending as well. The Blood
Red on the other hand, has much smaller eyes that look somewhat "normal"
and a rounder, widely spread tail that is simply beautiful. These characteristics
are obvious even when the fish is young, so it is possible to spot a Chili Red or
Blood Red when young. Apart from the above, a personal opinion from us is
that the scales of Chili Reds have more obvious green cores and have heavier
metallic shines while Blood Red have shines that is shinier and tends to
resemble that of a Cross-back Golden when young. Also, the shape of a young Blood Red seems rounder as
compared to Chili Reds.
Despite the differences observed above, both Chili and Blood Reds are still the most stunning looking red
arowanas customers can get and it is most important for any hobbyists to get a red arowana that turns red,
Chili or Blood Red. These days genuine Blood Red or Chili Red are rare to find. And generally a Super Red type
with some Chili Red bloodline has sharper looking face and a pointed head/mouth region and naturally with
deep red color finnages. To get a good red, it is more advisable to approach a reputable farm that sells genuine
red arowanas.
The color developments of both fishes are also differ with Chili Red being a late developer while Blood Red are
early developer. To put it in simple terms, Chili Reds will normally achieve its full bloom red color 1-2 years
later than Blood Reds and this red color is often a breath-taking one, especially with its relatively thinner red
framed scales. This is as far as red intensity is concern. However, the stages of color developments of the body
for both fish are similar. Orange color is often the transitional stage to the eventual red color which some red
arowanas will experience. Of course, there are also red arowanas that, in their whole 8 years remained palelooking
and only to turn suddenly to full red color in a short space of one month, much to the shock of the
owners. The judgments on red arowanas can be difficult at times and it can take plenty of efforts and patience
to realize the true potential of a young red arowanas. These efforts are definitely worthwhile.

Yeah, like jebat said, better find cheaper one la
if price like that already have yellow tail, ok la
fish shop near my place also have YT price RM170 but no color at all, zero, nature color only
ONLY 2 inches longU r damn lucky man!
in KL RM400 1 set of tank only laaaaI bought my Silver at Jalan Pasar for RM45,
5 inches already but nice color n shape
no barbels n in nearly 2 weeks i kept it, 1 barbels grow only

This post has been edited by madstone: Dec 8 2006, 08:48 AM

ChelseaFan, thanks for the price update. what is the aro size with the price you said?

madstone, 2" YT aro cost rm170?? the YT I saw at subang rm180 already 5" I will try to take a pic next time I go there.

I still have no idea which filter is better? you guys using canister filter or DIY like c0c0nut did?? canister filter is expensive le..

I'm not buying it now lor, just surveying, no big bucks this time, lepas minum teh saja Try Kepong, opposite jusco there
Kedai Akuarium

That's y la i didn't buy at the fish shop near my house
better go to Jalan Pasar, i guess YT there aorund RM130
gonna go there tomorrow, survey survey, jalan-jalan cari pasal
looking for better WF there also

for WF if you want to breed aro, better use better WF (water filter)
better don't use cheap WF like me coz it will effect your aro's growth
me, using RM35 WF, cheap2 one maaa....looking fwd to change it ASAP

SnYY,

Around 4". Size doent matter, healthy Aro grwoth rate is 1"/ mth.
Most important is the quality.
Dont waste time with YT. No color and the 2tone yellow/orangie tail very jalat.
For budget get a Jardini. Try to find one with intense Gold/ Bronze.
2 wks ago, I bought 1 fr the stall next to the Chinese temple.

If money isnt a issue, start with a RTG (min.) Noregrets, even if u decided to give up ur hobby in future, u can still recover ur cost. Others(lower species) no demand.
Aferall mainteneance and feeding cost is the same

For filteration, an overhead filter and 30% water change weekly is fine.

This post has been edited by ChelseaFan: Dec 8 2006, 10:08 AM

before you change your water, make sure you keep the water for 24 hours to neutralise the chlorine a bit
and add more anti chlorine after u put the water in the tank

correct me if i'm wrong

anything less 30% change is OK, even without antichroline.
24hrs ?
No need so ma fan!

ok just answer this question....you wan frequent cleaning or less cleaning...

less cleaning is cannister ....more easy...unplug 2 hose...and clean every 6 months, have to breed the good bacteria again...

overflow filter like mine....clean when u think its dirty....sponge and cotton have to be clean every 2 weeks,....

top filter cheapest....easy to maintain...clean every week....due to small size...

my opinion only. anyone care to comment ?

guys this is how i do it.
remove 30% or 20% of the water. add vitamins and antichlorine. since the water is less in the tank the fish absorb the vitamin better. leave for 10-15 minute. den add the new water.

no point add water and den anti chlorine. by that time the chlorine already spread around the tank. and your fish might be half life....if chlorine level too high

REMEMBER:
anti chlorine den water, same like u make syrup. add syrup 1st den water. easier to mix rite ?. also add good bacteria 1 day after u WC cause anti chlorine kills good bac. so i only add bac 1 day after i do WC.

This post has been edited by c0c0nut: Dec 8 2006, 10:40 AM

anything goes...

oh.. then please let know what WF you get.



my fren also told me the same thing. at least start with RTG. but the problem is I don rear any fish b4. thay why I thinking to start with those cheap aro to get some experiences b4 going for those expensive aro. then after a period of time if my aro is growing well then only i go for those expensive aro. this is what I plan now.



with this kind of filter, izzit need to make a hole on the bottom of the tank? what is the size of tank you use for filteration?

my tank is 4ft x 2.5 and the filter system tank is 2ft. yes you need to make holes in the main tank. usually u do this when u order the tank. the come with the wooden cabinet set. if you just bought a tank with no holes no prob go for cannister.

This post has been edited by c0c0nut: Dec 8 2006, 02:05 PM

must have follower a???? hehhehehe

Snyy,
like me, i breed silv aro for gaining experience n in 6 months time wanna go for RTG
for now, it's learning time

for breeding expensive species like RTG or Chilli Red need a lot of experience n knowledge
buy silv aro 1st larrr...

i use RM35 WF only maa
this sunday wanna do WC

This post has been edited by madstone: Dec 8 2006, 03:33 PM

thanks c0c0nut for the valuable info

how long u spend doing those pics?

for pro about 20min...noobie maybe 1hr ??? i don know....but that is my set up. known as overflow or slump system.