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 Proton PrevĂ© V19, Welcome our brother Suprima S

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post Jan 24 2014, 04:10 PM

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Mine currently at 8.2L/100KM. 4000KM mileage with Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 EO. Petron fuel. One tank RM96 goes about 500KM
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post Jan 24 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jan 24 2014, 04:42 PM)
what's the % of city n highway driving to get that type of FC? ..if 100% city drive for that FC I will take it laugh.gif
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Daily travel from Puchong to KL city centre. City driving style except for short burst on KESAS and MEX.

If fully highway, I'm sure it can do much better
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post Jan 24 2014, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 24 2014, 04:48 PM)
for preve, what tyre size suitable for 17" wheels? unsure.gif

i want it to be nicely fitted the wheel arch. like 2 fingers of space from tyre to body.

proper example of how nicely fitted would look like is the 18" wheels on R3 Inspira.
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My stock Preve LE tyres is 215/45/17. Can fit up to 225/45/17. But still won't have your 2 finger requirement because what you wanted is too flush. Sure will hit wheel arch or fender when full turn or fully loaded

This is how my stock car looks. Next round I'm going to go for 225/45/17, wider and slightly thicker
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post Jan 28 2014, 10:58 AM

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Set the expectation right and you'll be happy with the car. If expecting FC of a kancil then teruklah. Actually too many estimates about common cars like Myvi and Vios that is reporting over optimistically because the owner don't calculate but eyeball on gauge and feel only.
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post Jan 28 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(matS @ Jan 28 2014, 11:14 AM)
it is very bad in heavy traffic... mine usually RM50 around 200km to 240km..
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That's not bad. RM50 gives you less than half a tank @ 23.8L. Full tank is 50L. So a full tank gives you about 400KM to 480KM or more?

If RM 50 gives 200KM, then you have 11.9L/100KM. Not too bad for traffic if do not drive with economic practice.
If RM 50 gives 240KM, then you have 9.9L/100KM. Not bad for traffic at all!

I had Wira 4G15 carburettor with 3 speed auto gearbox, Persona and then Preve. Maybe I set my expectation low. But guess which uses least fuel; it's the old technology Wira, probably because of its light weight compared to others.

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post Jan 28 2014, 12:09 PM

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The estimation is based on your current driving style. Will change depending on traffic and driving style and may deviate a lot
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post Jan 30 2014, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 30 2014, 02:20 PM)
my advice, don't let your service km be more than 1000km of recommended service mileage, else you'll lose the warranty altogether. if unavoidable, just make sure 300km and below from recommended mileage.

something i noticed, my consumption is at 10.3L/km when i use TIP mode, but it went to 10.5L/km when in D mode. hmm.gif
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In tiptronic mode, the gear ratio is different from D. It's normal.
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post Jan 30 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 30 2014, 02:24 PM)
so better use TIP mode for saving? biggrin.gif

hey bro, know anyone who can remap the gear ratio for our CFE? i think current ratio is too early when it ask to change gear.it feels that the power didn't utilised optimumly when the engine asking to change gear. or is it my foot? unsure.gif
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D mode is most fuel saving. Secondly is tiptronic mode. Worst is S mode.

Using cruise control will go into gear ratio similar to tiptronic mode for my Preve LE, but due to a linear control of throttle, it saves more fuel than D usually.

QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 30 2014, 02:40 PM)
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i found a picture of preve with rims that can achieve my expectation of (nicely fit to fender). what size of the rim and tyre u think this is? unsure.gif

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Maximum you can have is 225/45/17 without rolling your fenders. Maybe this rim is 18"? But looks like 17" actually.
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post Jan 30 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Jan 30 2014, 03:06 PM)
Yeah.. i know that feeling... like shifting through 7 gears from 0 to 60 rite...
The ratio spread is too small... inspira ratio spread is better..
On mine i notice the cruise control like to apply abit of extra throttle... my right foot can get lower consumption at a set speed and not loose any speed... whats the lowest rpm u get @ 90kmh?
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I don't remember the RPM for 90. I think around 2k-2.1k?

Probably gear ratio changed to maintain the speed in cruise control mode, sticking closer to powerband allows the engine to resume to intended speed faster, in case a steep slope suddenly comes.

QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:14 PM)
well, if u know anyone who can remap the ratio, do share please! biggrin.gif
we need to utilise optimum powaah from this nicely built engine! rclxm9.gif
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I actually feel very happy with current gearbox. I can tell you that I hated CVT before buying Preve, I have bad impression towards it. I became to love it after driving it.

I also feel faster to accelerate on D mode, rather than tiptronic or S mode.

Btw, if you have to get so serious to change gearbox for track racing, get a track car. Don't use your daily ride.

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post Jan 30 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:31 PM)
no la...don't want to change gearbox tongue.gif
my driving style is rough. i just love how u can push ur preve, it still feels like it can give u more (like conti car, BMW for example). i just wants to confirm if the gearbox can withstand my driving style tongue.gif

i don't want to keep my driving style and later needs to fork out 10k for gearbox repairs... sweat.gif
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If you push it too hard, I think it will give more problem eventually. Since it doesn't run a torque converter to absorb those shock, if the pedal is sharply pressed and released repeatedly/regularly, I think the belt might slip. Some times I accidentally let go sharply and I could feel the mounting take the shock

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 30 2014, 03:36 PM)
I still remember that TT (I think you were testing driving my 6-spd piece-of-crap?) where you expressed interest in the Preve but was so put off by the CVT  tongue.gif

In a ironic twist, after test-sitting in your Preve LE with the new VT3+, it has rekindled my desire for the Preve/Suprima  wub.gif
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Yeah, I remember that was the time I realised Preve can wheel spin. And so far I have no major complains about the car. Happy with it. FC is getting better day by day

QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:37 PM)
I too was impressed with the CVT (still am), no jerking unless you step on the brake biggrin.gif
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Mine doesn't jerk when pressing brake.
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post Jan 30 2014, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Jan 30 2014, 04:25 PM)
No idea mate.. haven't been much a fan of modifying cars but I will advise not to modify anything within 1-2 years until you fully discover your car has no any defect/problem that requires warranty claim later on..
How's the difference of FC during the beginning and now?

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First time driving out, the average FC shows 14L/100KM. Crazily high but maybe because I'm also breaking in the engine whenever I can.

By now my average is 8.2 to 8.3L/100KM. Great improvement after first service.

Regarding modifying Preve for race, it's almost like saying VW has so many suitable models for race but you buy a Passat for race. Could have just gotten a Satria Neo for race.

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post Jan 31 2014, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 31 2014, 12:15 AM)
Guys, for preve CFE, k&N or works drop in filter, which one betteR?
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I was given a steel mesh filter from my friend for my Persona. Sounds garang. Performance feels the same. I gave him back and say thank you.

Using paper filter, throttle is still clean like new in 20000 KM. Use high flow filter, expect to clean throttle body regularly. True story.
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post Jan 31 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Jan 31 2014, 08:08 PM)
oh, excuse me. online thru hp, can't play the video at the time tongue.gif

what's the difference between oiled drop in filter and not oiled drop in filter? it seems they tested these two apart from normal paper filter rclxub.gif
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Oiled are like K&N, a thin layer of oil helps to filtrate. Works/Simota/stainless steel are not oiled. For oiled ones, I suppose there is better filtration but you need to buy the oil.

I'm really not interested with aftermarket filters especially non-oiled. Some says it last a lifetime as it can be washed, take a peek at the filter material after some washes, it doesn't seem like it filters well.
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post Feb 1 2014, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Feb 1 2014, 11:01 AM)
hi guys...the advertisement really deceived me.. sweat.gif

was looking for bulb producing white light (like the ones in lexus or bmw), so i bought meself osram night breaker unlimited as it claimed to produce whiter light, and i saw it has blue coating, 3900K rate, and seeing adverts around it seems white. change it myself and voila, its yellow... sweat.gif

disappointed.. doh.gif but as advertised, it is brighter and softer than normal, but distance, i'm not so sure of the claim. it seems the same. now got extra good condition philips bulb (the existing preve's bulb) who wants it? tongue.gif

anyway...changing lowlight bulb on preve is damn hard...not enough clearance. i think next time i'm gonna ask for professional service. at least they know how to properly disassemble other parts to give clearance or just disassemble the headlamp for bulb replacement. i'm not gonna change the bulb myself again. sweat.gif
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Proton sells the Philips bulb cheaper than market price. RM18 only. So how much to sell a used bulb? Haha..
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post Feb 1 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(theonlyvin @ Feb 1 2014, 08:47 PM)
I think both exec and cfe also got that issue lol...

I want to do the 1k service so badly o.O
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It's ok to do it earlier than 1000 KM.
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post Feb 1 2014, 10:00 PM

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Caused by brake disc that is not perfectly flat or warped. Can claim if severe.

Mine had the helicopter sound when new, but went off on its own after ~1000KM
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Feb 2 2014, 04:01 AM)
Just to confirm that you should be changing the brake pad right and how much they charged for that?
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If brake pad still new, can just use sand paper and not to replace.
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(13_baron @ Feb 1 2014, 10:19 PM)
thanks @mengsuan

but what do you mean if severe?how i know it's severe or not?
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If you brake from high speed and the steering will shake together with the helicopter sound, like kru-kru-kru-kru, then it's severe warping.

My Persona warped its disc when I drove up to 220KM/h then brake to about 50KM/h, instant helicopter sound with steering shake.

Preve only had sound but no shaking, so I'm not going to do anything about it yet, unless I have the time to claim.
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post Feb 5 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 5 2014, 03:18 PM)
Our front windscreen share the same specs as on all other windows?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I do feel the heat on my body when driving on PLUS highway at noon time. hmm.gif

Edit: Called up WeCare a.k.a WeDon'tReallyCare, saying that they used a low quality tint for front & rear windscreen, no TSER  sweat.gif
or the officer that picked up my call just anyhow answer me laugh.gif
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I think they simply answer you. It's a different tint model as I read from google, but it's pretty decent.

QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Feb 5 2014, 05:00 PM)
first mod for my car....reverse camera sweat.gif
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Need to drill?

QUOTE(fix24311 @ Feb 5 2014, 05:34 PM)
I've got the power window problem on driver side..

Auto wind up stops abruptly in the middle, auto wind down works fine. just when i was about to arrive at Proton Edar Service Centre the window suddenly function properly! vmad.gif

I've checked there are none any obstacle in the window that let the wind up stops abruptly, but it still did.
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I have seen some procedure to do calibration, like holding it up down manually in some sequence.
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post Feb 6 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(spikee7 @ Feb 5 2014, 06:13 PM)
u mean windshield is not eco tint? or eco tint but lower range type?
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It is ecotint. The back and front cannot be coloured or thick like 4mil security film to be JPJ compliant, hence another model is used.

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