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post Oct 19 2013, 02:25 PM


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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Oct 19 2013, 02:01 PM)
Yeppers, A very Positive cash flow.. but im staying in a rented house.

At least, if i purchase my own stay house, it become my own house. Instead of renting.

Need some down payment to purchase a landed property while at the same time, Wanna use the profit from the sales to use as down payment for Own Property and will buy few more other properties for investment..

Do you think it's a good move? Need more input from those experienced investors. cry.gif  cool2.gif
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You first need to know if there is anymore potential upside for existing unit... Though from 280 to 500 in 2 years is very respectable already
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Oct 19 2013, 02:20 PM)
Thank you very much for your ideas smile.gif rclxms.gif  Appreciate it!
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Have you check with bank on your loan capacity? Since you are paying 1.4K as rental, you can get a condo within your budget, use the master room and rent out rest of the bedrooms.

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QUOTE(Glcotan @ Oct 19 2013, 02:25 PM)
You first need to know if there is anymore potential upside for existing unit... Though from 280 to 500 in 2 years is very respectable already
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I guess there will still be. Strong demand for the property. Cause that's the only condo in that area. Near Kampung Tunku. Less than 5 mins walk to LRT. blink.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Oct 19 2013, 02:29 PM)
Have you check with bank on your loan capacity? Since you are paying 1.4K as rental, you can get a condo within your budget, use the master room and rent out rest of the bedrooms.
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Errrm, looking for landed property in Shah Alam for own stay. Cause i heard, can't really buy landed properties with G&G concept at a lower price nowadays.. Eyeing @ Ken Rimba. blink.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Oct 19 2013, 02:01 PM)
Yeppers, A very Positive cash flow.. but im staying in a rented house.

At least, if i purchase my own stay house, it become my own house. Instead of renting.

Need some down payment to purchase a landed property while at the same time, Wanna use the profit from the sales to use as down payment for Own Property and will buy few more other properties for investment..

Do you think it's a good move? Need more input from those experienced investors. cry.gif  cool2.gif
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with that % of cash flow, i die die oso wont sell.. mayb refinance

on the buy for own stay house, try stretch a bit with help from spouse n family.. but don go too luxury, something decent & safe will be good
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post Oct 19 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Oct 19 2013, 01:32 PM)
Wanna seek for Some advice from experience investors .

I bought a property in PJ. Under MV for RM 280k in 2010. VP after sign S&P. Stay free for One year. Cause wait for transfer.  Been renting it out since 2012 for RM2.7k per month. I rented out my property While currently Staying in a Rented house for RMl .3k . My monthly installment IS Rm 1.4k. DO you think it's advisable to sell off my property now and get the profit to buy my own stay property & few more properties for investment? MV for my condo is Rm 480k at the moment. Planning to sell @ RM 500K at least.
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Refinance is better option. This is big positive cash flow property
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post Oct 19 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(cloner @ Oct 19 2013, 05:02 PM)
with that % of cash flow, i die die oso wont sell.. mayb refinance

on the buy for own stay house, try stretch a bit with help from spouse n family.. but don go too luxury, something decent & safe will be good
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Depends on the purpose. If one has too many properties, although all are giving very good, positive cash flow, it's still best to consolidate to have less properties. For example, if one has 3 RM300k properties and is planning to get a fourth prop, also at RM300k, he/she will need at least 30% downpayment. Instead, I would rather sell all 3 and get 2 properties worth RM700k each. It's pretty much the same as refinancing, as one will be taking loans that is based on the property's current market value. Refinancing a current property will give cash but without a doubt also increase the monthly installment.

Mathematically, it will work out to be the same.
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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Oct 19 2013, 06:07 PM)
Depends on the purpose. If one has too many properties, although all are giving very good, positive cash flow, it's still best to consolidate to have less properties. For example, if one has 3 RM300k properties and is planning to get a fourth prop, also at RM300k, he/she will need at least 30% downpayment.  Instead, I would rather sell all 3 and get 2 properties worth RM700k each. It's pretty much the same as refinancing, as one will be taking loans that is based on the property's current market value. Refinancing a current property will give cash but without a doubt also increase the monthly installment.

Mathematically, it will work out to be the same.
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For me, 3 props better than 2 props due to:
1. More diversified.
2. I guess it is easier to go from 300k to 400k, than from 700k to 800k?

But more props more hassle, may lose some precious family time. just m2c. cheers rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(flyingleaf01 @ Oct 19 2013, 06:11 PM)
For me, 3 props better than 2 props due to:
1. More diversified.
2. I guess it is easier to go from 300k to 400k, than from 700k to 800k?

But more props more hassle, may lose some precious family time. just m2c. cheers  rclxms.gif
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Yeah. I have the same opinions as well.
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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Oct 19 2013, 06:07 PM)
Depends on the purpose. If one has too many properties, although all are giving very good, positive cash flow, it's still best to consolidate to have less properties. For example, if one has 3 RM300k properties and is planning to get a fourth prop, also at RM300k, he/she will need at least 30% downpayment.  Instead, I would rather sell all 3 and get 2 properties worth RM700k each. It's pretty much the same as refinancing, as one will be taking loans that is based on the property's current market value. Refinancing a current property will give cash but without a doubt also increase the monthly installment.

Mathematically, it will work out to be the same.
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Yeah. I agree as well... Refinancing will add up to the debt income ratio as well. blush.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Oct 19 2013, 06:07 PM)
Depends on the purpose. If one has too many properties, although all are giving very good, positive cash flow, it's still best to consolidate to have less properties. For example, if one has 3 RM300k properties and is planning to get a fourth prop, also at RM300k, he/she will need at least 30% downpayment.  Instead, I would rather sell all 3 and get 2 properties worth RM700k each. It's pretty much the same as refinancing, as one will be taking loans that is based on the property's current market value. Refinancing a current property will give cash but without a doubt also increase the monthly installment.

Mathematically, it will work out to be the same.
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rclxms.gif nod.gif well considered.. good option indeed
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post Oct 21 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(cloner @ Oct 21 2013, 03:16 PM)
rclxms.gif  nod.gif  well considered.. good option indeed
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Example was given based on my experience and current position actually, LMAO.
I have 2 properties already, market value of each one is around RM300k+ now. Planning to get another one, around RM350k, but it means having to fork out 25% of the purchase price since LTV only 70% for the 3rd property. Luckily developer giving some rebate to cushion the impact. Regret that I diversified too much... :-(

I think I won't be touching properties for a long time (at least a few years down the road). Because if I do, I will sell my first 2 properties in order to buy my next one (so that I am entitled to 90% loan). And both still are within loan lock down period. Might also be taxed for RPGT since net profit will be more than RM100k for the first property. Damn.
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post Oct 21 2013, 03:36 PM

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actually thats the main issue of the most investor nowdays ... they diversified too much without considering the real risk once economy hit.. most will suffer n some will sapu

staying prudent while others is shopping spree... n start shopping when everyone is scared
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QUOTE(cloner @ Oct 21 2013, 03:36 PM)
actually thats the main issue of the most investor nowdays ... they diversified too much without considering the real risk once economy hit.. most will suffer n some will sapu

staying prudent while others is shopping spree... n start shopping when everyone is scared
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actually, how do you determine when's when going to happen. Even if everything going down south you will still be hesitating, on the other hand if properties keep increasing is it a mistake leveraging ur money on property instead of keeping in the bank?
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post Oct 21 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(boyslikeboys @ Oct 21 2013, 03:46 PM)
actually, how do you determine when's when going to happen. Even if everything going down south you will still be hesitating, on the other hand if properties keep increasing is it a mistake leveraging ur money on property instead of keeping in the bank?
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that my friend.. is up to each individual to decide
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QUOTE(FortuneClub @ Oct 18 2013, 11:15 PM)
from what i see here, only car to be a commitment .

remember now the banks are offering loan based on DSR 70%-80% and even 100% if you can prove u "cash rich"

500k - installment only 2.4k
600k - installment only 2.9k
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Bro, what do you mean by "cash rich"? If really cash rich, we can buy any property in zero loan

I am fine with the installment, now the problem is how to make the applied loan approve.

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Oct 19 2013, 08:31 PM)
Yeah. I have the same opinions as well.
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post Oct 21 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Oct 21 2013, 03:30 PM)
Example was given based on my experience and current position actually, LMAO.
I have 2 properties already, market value of each one is around RM300k+ now. Planning to get another one, around RM350k, but it means having to fork out 25% of the purchase price since LTV only 70% for the 3rd property. Luckily developer giving some rebate to cushion the impact. Regret that I diversified too much... :-(

I think I won't be touching properties for a long time (at least a few years down the road). Because if I do, I will sell my first 2 properties in order to buy my next one (so that I am entitled to 90% loan). And both still are within loan lock down period. Might also be taxed for RPGT since net profit will be more than RM100k for the first property. Damn.
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Can use your triumph card "RPGT exemption once in a life time" unless you want to keep it for later use. brows.gif

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post Oct 21 2013, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Oct 21 2013, 04:41 PM)
Can use your triumph card "RPGT exemption once in a life time" unless you want to keep it for later use. brows.gif
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Hahahaha, triumph card for a net profit of RM120k only? LOL
That means a tax of RM12k if within 2-5 years.

To make matters worse, exemption is for RM10k and below.

I think I'll only use triumph card much later on in life, then dealing with profits of a few hundred k... wink.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Oct 21 2013, 04:45 PM)
Hahahaha, triumph card for a net profit of RM120k only? LOL
That means a tax of RM12k if within 2-5 years.

To make matters worse, exemption is for RM10k and below.

I think I'll only use triumph card much later on in life, then dealing with profits of a few hundred k... wink.gif
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Lol...tats what I thought too. Better use it to slaughter big fish. Hopefully government don't take away this entitlement. biggrin.gif


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