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 Iconia W4 (W3-810 refresh) 8" tablet IPS screen, Baytrail Z3740 - Available Dec 6, 2013

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post Dec 7 2013, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 7 2013, 07:06 PM)
thinking  got ppl compare acer w4, asus t100 and dell venue 8?
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First of all, regarding W4 and Venue 8.
- Ppl can get shocked by using such a small 8" Windows PC, so take note of that.

T100 now only has 32GB onboard instead of 64GB

Venue Pro 8 has a digitizer but uses the damn AAAA battery and also the digtitzer is Synaptics instead of Wacom, unproven track record.

All are using Baytrail, and have the same performance and also Office 2013 Student Edition so no difference there.

It boils down to
- which size you want? 10" or 8"
- build quality
- wheter you can buy in Malaysia or not.
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post Dec 7 2013, 08:30 PM

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haha oh i c
i think 10 inch better right ?
since if i watch anime xD
but i got a laptop using win 8 64 bit with 4gb ram = =
but feel bit lag ==
worry tablet will have same problem or more worst cause tablet 2gb > <
correct me if i am wrong
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post Dec 7 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 7 2013, 08:30 PM)
haha oh i c
i think 10 inch better right ?
since if i watch anime xD
but i got a laptop using win 8 64 bit with 4gb ram = =
but feel bit lag ==
worry tablet will have same problem or more worst cause tablet 2gb > <
correct me if i am wrong
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hmm.gif I tested my new W4, super smooth...............awesome keyboard responsive
got IOS feel. Of course my W4 still new, not many apps being install
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post Dec 7 2013, 08:33 PM

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how heavy is this tablet? btw, windows store got dedicated tablet style book reader?
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post Dec 7 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 7 2013, 08:33 PM)
how heavy is this tablet? btw, windows store got dedicated tablet style book reader?
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430g, a bit heavier compare to others 8' win8 tablet
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post Dec 7 2013, 08:36 PM

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hmm actually tablet win 8.1 and laptop win 8 got what difference?
i just know laptop win8 boot fast but .... when go to desktop mode need to load also > <
tab win8.1 is pro version can install apps if wanna do coding basic coding like html coding those be ok right ?

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post Dec 7 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 7 2013, 08:33 PM)
how heavy is this tablet? btw, windows store got dedicated tablet style book reader?
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430g is the same weight of the first generation samsung galaxy tab. It is heavier than current generation of 7" and 8" tablets, but it is still light enough that you merely feel like carrying a book.

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post Dec 7 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 7 2013, 08:36 PM)
hmm actually tablet win 8.1 and laptop win 8 got what difference?
i just know laptop win8 boot fast but .... when go to desktop mode need to load also > <
tab win8.1 is pro version can install apps if wanna do coding basic coding like html coding those be ok right ?
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yes
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post Dec 7 2013, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 7 2013, 08:36 PM)
hmm actually tablet win 8.1 and laptop win 8 got what difference?
i just know laptop win8 boot fast but .... when go to desktop mode need to load also > <
tab win8.1 is pro version can install apps if wanna do coding basic coding like html coding those be ok right ?
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tablet win8.1 is same with laptop win8.1...........

I knew Baytrail tablet like Dell Venue 8 Pro, Asus T100.............cool boot to windows is around 12second. W4 I not yet test.

W4's from Modern UI switch to desktop mode is super super fast.............is immediate, faster than you open a apps.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 7 2013, 08:33 PM)
how heavy is this tablet? btw, windows store got dedicated tablet style book reader?
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Well, Kindle is available for every tablet. This site is very good for recommending the best apps for Windows 8:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-...=0,1#Page-Index

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post Dec 7 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Dec 7 2013, 12:41 PM)
On real Windows 8.1, not RT version.

But it seems that other than metro UI, windows desktop mode isn't too suitable with 8" tablet.
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This tool is super useful if you try to use desktop mode using touch interface.

http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchmousepo...n-us/index.html
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post Dec 7 2013, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 6 2013, 02:16 PM)
Didnt asked if 1099 can be discounted later or not.

But really cold cold pc fair. This year may be the last of its kind. For the first time, no problem walking around. No need bumping and rubbing shoulders.

Saw T100 but meh, really much expensive at 1399 even though it has SSD and 500GB keyboard dock. I thought it had 64GB SSD but only 32GB SSD. I wonder what can you install with 32GB.
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Windows 8.1 is going to take 12.9Gb out of 32GB (which is most likely only 29GB), then depending on whether there is a recovery partition installed (which is likely to take 5-6Gb), you will probably be left with 13Gb. But if you removed the recovery partition then you will have about 19GB free. Still not much, so if you have big installation you probably want to move it to the microSD slot. Or keep the apps on the SSD limited to essential stuff, and keep others on the HDD in the keyboard dock.
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post Dec 7 2013, 09:02 PM

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oh ok
roughly know the idea already
cant compare a tablet with a laptop also xD
since the price and h/w are totally different
just plan to get a tab cause convenient but still thinking where got demo of t100?XD
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post Dec 7 2013, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 6 2013, 08:01 PM)
I only used it for short moment and my opinion remains the same as when I installed Win8 into my Acer 1825PTZ tablet. Microsoft ruin the whole experience. It is simple and utterly unusable. You can see why people rush to sell their W700, P3, Surface, for example. I suspect its gonna be worse with 8" models.

Microsoft really need to start deciding to implement two modes, not having it co-exist, especially in smaller form factor tablet. The big Metro UI are only useful for simple stuffs like surfing, playing games, launching apps, checking mails for example. However, when it comes to the need to change simple setting, you still need to go into Control Panel. The control panel that comes with Metro UI is just simple quite useless.

Just for example, I cant change the default search provider when launching IE from Metro UI. I need to goto desktop mode where everything is so tiny and hard to click. I need to go into IE settings, and then Manage Addons in order to change it. How do you think this make you feel Windows8 is likeable as a touch device? To adjust to bigger text size, you also need to go into Desktop mode control panel to do so.

I think the whole Windows 8.1 as being a huge upgrade is overhyped. It is still a pretty neat device to have, when you are on the go, no doubt about that, especially if you really need X86 compatibility. Other than that, this again proved why Windows is losing ground yet again, given how much Android tablets like Note 10.1 (2014) had advance once again. Microsoft is only saved by our own overly reliant on X86.
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Yup, desktop mode is not easy to use with touch interface alone. There are a few things can make it easier though.

1. As someone else has already point out, use a virtual onscreen mouse:
http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchmousepo...n-us/index.html

2. If you have a smartphone, a ipad or an Android tablet, you can use it as a mouse/keyboard input device for Windows. Try app such as Unified Remote:
http://www.unifiedremote.com/

3. Of course, you can always get bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo, or even those bluetooth mini keyboard. But those are costly instead of the free methods above.

4. Finally, get a USB hub and connect wired keyboard/mouse!

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post Dec 7 2013, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 7 2013, 04:20 PM)
how come you all got 999? mine one 1099, the Sales said no more 899, just bought around 2pm same Acer booth.. but then I got the 8gb thumb drive+ 3 years warranty package and bluetooth speaker + 100 Rm Parkson voucher without extra charges..
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Well if you get RM100 Parkson voucher, it seems it is more or less RM999 also?

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post Dec 7 2013, 09:51 PM

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Hey, the touchpad program is pretty useful actually. Highly recommended to anyone having difficulties with the desktop on the 8" tablets!
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post Dec 7 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 7 2013, 08:30 PM)
haha oh i c
i think 10 inch better right ?
since if i watch anime xD
but i got a laptop using win 8 64 bit with 4gb ram = =
but feel bit lag ==
worry tablet will have same problem or more worst cause tablet 2gb > <
correct me if i am wrong
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When you say you feel a bit lag on your laptop, what are you doing on it? You do realize things can't happen instantly if you're burdening the system right? There are limits to what a system can do.

Even more goes for an Atom tablet, the Atom Baytrail has very good performance for something of its class, just don't get crazy with it, like watch a Hi10P video with MPC while still trying to play candy crush or some other intensive stuff on your browser. Be reasonable and you'll find that it works quite well.

As for the size.. it depends. My wife complained that the W510 at 510+ grams was heavy, and now FINALLY with the W4 at 460grams (I think) she FINALLY said it's light enough for her to watch videos with.. she also finds the touchscreen better than the W510, which surprised me, since I was sure she would say it was a problem cause it's smaller than the W510.
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post Dec 7 2013, 11:35 PM

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oh
what i do ?
omg just facebook video it will lag = =
i dunno is it browser problem
other should be ok
just sometime it will hang on there but 10 times may be just hang once
so not a big issue except facebook video lag
the lag not internet lag is the voice out but the clip still no move lol

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 7 2013, 11:35 PM)
oh
what i do ?
omg just facebook video it will lag = =
i dunno is it browser problem
other should be ok
just sometime it will hang on there but 10 times may be just hang once
so not a big issue except facebook video lag
the lag not internet lag is the voice out but the clip still no move lol
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Desktop or Metro browser? Should be the stupid hardware acceleration video issue. I'm not sure how to set it in the Metrao one, but in desktop IE :- Internet Options -> Advanced Tab -> Check "Use software rendering instead of GPU rendering"

Restart IE.

Darn hardware acceleration causes weird glitches with browsers, have solved Chrome browser issues on laptops with switching graphics as well by doing this.

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