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hitsugaya2010
post Jul 14 2014, 03:43 PM

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Let me elaborate my experience with MU or Malaya U. In the early 80s, I studied mechanical engineering in a Polytechnic in London. Later, I went on to study Law in a university in Wales. In the early 1990s, when I was back in Malaysia, I visited MU during an open day there. Out of curiosity, I checked out their engineering stand and talked to the students manning the booth there. I was shocked to discover that they had no training or access to CAD/CAM programs and worse still, no access to computers. They told me that they had to group together to buy a personal computer to be shared amongst the group and buy pirated CAD/CAM programs to learn on their own. 10 years previously, in a polytechnic (not a University mind you) in London, I was already proficient with CAD/CAM programs, with access to dumb terminals connected to a mini computer, where we learned to write programs in machine code and Fortran.

Surprisingly enough, a few months later, still in the 1990s, during a radio interview with the secretary of the Institute of Engineers Malaysia, I managed to get through and asked him why was it that our so called premier university, Malaya U, were so backward that they could not provide or train their engineering students in CAD/CAM programs, when 10 years earlier, I was already being trained to do so in London. That stupid secretary's reply was that MU was training their students for local Malaysian conditions and standard, which were not as advanced or required to be as advanced as Western countries!

When I informed an uncle of mine who was a London graduate from the 1960s and had had his own civil engineering firm in KL since the 1970s, he was shocked and said what absolute rubbish! All the main engineering firms during the 1990s already had computers running CAD programs and were hiring engineers who knew how to use them in order to stay on top! Our Malaysian engineering firms are quite capable and can compete on the international stage, given the opportunity. My uncle was absolutely pissed off and had a word with the secretary. Considering he was one of the senior civil engineers in the country, who had designed some of the iconic landmarks in KL, I think the secretary lived to regret his reply.

In the late 1990s, I applied to do a law PHD at Malaya U on a part time basis. Two things surprised me. Firstly, there were only 2 PHD students. Me and another student, who happened to be a law lecturer at MU. She went on to head the law department after obtaining her PHD at MU. Secondly, during my interview and subsequent time at MU, everybody, from the Deputy Dean of the Law Department who interviewed me, the librarian, my PHD supervisor and a few others, asked me why I didn't do my PHD at an overseas university. They said that overseas universities had better lecturers, research facilities and prestige, compared to MU. That was what they told me. 

In other words, they were running down MU even though they were worked there.  Shows you the confidence that they had in MU.  They were so surprised that I wanted to take my PHD at MU. I told them that I had a legal practice to take care and I couldn't spend 3 years overseas to do a PHD which I only wanted to do for interest.

So, you can see, my bias against MU. Things may have changed a lot at MU since the 1990s. Or it may have not. All I know is that MU during the 1990s were not as up todate as my poly in London, 10 years earlier in the 1980s. Further, their own staff considered their own qualifications, well at least at PHD level, to be inferior to those of overseas universities. Well considering, the consistent drop in ranking of MU in QS world rankings, I am not surprised!
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Although this post dated long time ago, I do agree with your statements. It's not because of our student's quality, it's because the facilities provided in the university is backwards and not well maintained.

When I studied my engineering degree in one of the local university, to complete a lab experiment is a problem, and for the whole class, we need to use some free softwares and even share those expensive software.
I strongly believe corruption and management are the biggest problems affecting our public universities.

One thing I am proud to be a Malaysian is that, some graduated from these universities still can make a mark in the international level. That's why our neighbour Singapore likes to hire Malaysian so much.
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post Jul 14 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(servo @ Feb 10 2014, 02:45 PM)
malaysian grads from local uni and TARC .. please .. go die
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I would rather be dead than working with you. Strange word choices and incoherent sentences, such a chore to read. Despite bragging on how you were educated in Australia and UK, obviously it does you no discernible favors. Shall I "blacklisted" your tertiary institution as well? (argumentum ad hominem, yes)
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post Jul 14 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(BaZingLa @ Jul 14 2014, 03:15 PM)
hi, i m from tarc. so, u talking u talk good good, dress good good, think good good ah? so which idiot working  4 u? u so geng leh
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ahhh... a tarcian.. failure scholar not matter how perfect your CGPA is.
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post Jul 14 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Jul 14 2014, 03:55 PM)
I would rather be dead than working with you. Strange word choices and incoherent sentences, such a chore to read. Despite bragging on how you were educated in Australia and UK, obviously it does you no discernible favors. Shall I "blacklisted" your tertiary institution as well? (argumentum ad hominem, yes)
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well.. this isn't a recruitment board.
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post Jul 14 2014, 05:26 PM

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Its true local grads leave much to be desired, most are not capable of out of the box thinking or posses basic soft skills for example English and business writing!

Managers hire them to reduce workload and instead find themselves expending more time micromanaging the new hires. doh.gif

I want staff to do my work so I can focus on other things sweat.gif

edit: prefer people smarter/better than me to be honest brows.gif

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Jul 14 2014, 05:28 PM
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post Jul 14 2014, 06:31 PM

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I think we all forget the purpose of our education system.

1. Its to churn out 'operators' with a piece of paper qualification
2. Its to make money for the cronies tied to the public universities
3. Its to make money for the cronies of private universities

End of the day, its about enriching the cronies. Never about giving the nation a good quality education.


Nobody asked to be stuck in this crappy education system. How many woke up to reality to have it smack right into our faces? Its quite like the situation in the Matrix. Take the red pill, continue to be live the bliss of ignorance or take the blue pill to realise that the whole world that you thought to know actually suck big time.

How can we - those that has woken up to reality, help bring the rest?

We can continue to gripe about how crappy they are and the situation will not change. It will get worse.

I believe we should should assist those that have potential in each of our capacity.




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post Jul 14 2014, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Sep 28 2013, 11:21 PM)
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They seem to be good only for being hard working and diligent employees if they are non-Malays and nothing much else if they are Malays, and I've employed both.  Hell, kindergarten students during my time had better English than MU graduates!  I am angry because of all the wasted talents and opportunities!
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1. there is no way of proving our doctor is not as good as their oversea counter part.

2. your only complain was about english proficiency. i dont get it. if your bangla worker speaks fluent english, will you pay more for his renovation work? sorry if i sound harsh, but i'm not trying to be rude. will i pay more for bangla who can speak fluent mandarin/malay/english ? well, if they are customer service, yes. if they are of other profession, then, as long as we can understand each other, i dont see a problem there. so a french doctor are rubbish unless they can speak fluent english? german engineers too right? unless they can discuss shakespare with you?

let me guess, you dont even speak your mother tongue? hmm.gif
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post Jul 14 2014, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(servo @ Feb 10 2014, 02:45 PM)
i was educated abroad though i am born and breed in malaysia. but since later half of my secondary education i went to australia to study high skool. i did however came back to malaysia to get my SPM. hehehe .. it was soo easy .. i went to UK to complete my tertiary. i came back and open a software engineering company. i interviewed alot of malaysian as i want to create jobs.

as of now ..

i blacklisted those students from

1. MARA
2. TARC
3. UTAR
4. UITM
5. UTM
6. UM
7. UUM
8. UKM

actually all of semi gomen and gomen uni i blacklisted. those that study at private colleges are way better.

all in all, malaysia next gen is epically failling. they cant speak properly, dress properly and cant even think properly. they just assume that becos they are fresh grad .. they deserved to be taught and mold.

hell no.. i am not paying you every month for you to learn and get trained just becos your uni sucks or you didnt study hard enuff.

i hire you and pay you to work for me and generate income for me.

malaysian grads from local uni and TARC .. please .. go die
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Funny, having lived and studied abroad as well, I always keep something I learnt in Malaysia.
Kepimpinan melalui tauladan. If you can't even type your rant properly, forgiving the typos, there are grammatical mistake FYI, what do you expect those under you to do?


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post Jul 16 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(papajahats @ Jul 14 2014, 11:25 PM)
Funny, having lived and studied abroad as well, I always keep something I learnt in Malaysia.
Kepimpinan melalui tauladan.  If you can't even type your rant properly, forgiving the typos, there are grammatical mistake FYI, what do you expect those under you to do?
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yea yea.. your english paling best. btw, i expect ppl who work with me to be better and smarter than me. that's why i hired them in the first place.

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