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 Honda Jazz 1.5 CKD, Official thread!

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post Jun 26 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(mym123 @ Jun 26 2016, 01:23 PM)
I dont believe in perfect car....not even lexus or even rolls royce....there must be some weaknesess here and there... the most important thing is that whether we can live with the weaknessess....for me its simple...just buy the car for the intended purposes.....for me Jazz is good enough for me for short distance drive to the Mall or market....thats it....cheers...
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There is la, technical perspective wise. We just dun have the perfect bank account to handle owning it.

So, i always dun like to give people high expectations of the car. It is just what it is.

Don't buy and complain about it if you did not put enough thoughts into it i the first place.
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post Jun 26 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(cardin @ Jun 26 2016, 02:02 PM)
I heard some people say if the tire already worn out vsc will kick in regularly indicating the driver to change the tire. Afterall, basic physics rule still applied here i guess.

For me, usually my tires always expired before fully utilized. I know rubber will become hard over the time even the tread is still there somehow the tire will loose its grip.
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Basically, it is not easy to get vsc to light up on normal driving irregardless of the tire condition. ABS, yes. VSC, not really.

In poor condition or tires, the easiest way is to turn the steering all the way one side and floor it or flooring it on wet cement floor. But, for it to really light up just from normal driving is hard. If it does, then you are going too fast most probably.

Tires do get hard with age and have the grip diminished. So, just drive carefully depending on situation.

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post Jun 28 2016, 11:04 AM

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Wow, that escalated quickly. Don't salah faham la. It's a small problem with the color only.
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post Jun 28 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Jun 26 2016, 07:51 PM)
any silver metallic jazz owners here? can show me a photo of your car? coz i went to the stockyard to pick my color yesterday, and i tot the silver metallic would look like vios silver, but NO its dark silver! some angle looks abit green some angle looks abit black... wtf? did i see wrong? is there no light silver color in malaysia?
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Actually the modern metallic and tinted silver are quite similar. It looks more like dark greyish and light greyish in real life rather than silverish to me. But, like someone else said. Different eyes, different view.

Light silver is not really that nice looking. Reminds me of Perodua Myvi biggrin.gif

QUOTE(don^don @ Jun 27 2016, 04:03 PM)
Why the hostility? Did I bite u? Weird.. I'm just wondering if the salesman lie to me saying the car at their stockyard is silver but it's actually modern steel. Because the silver shown at their website is bright silver, and I expect the Jazz silver metallic to be the same as the city silver metallic.

Never mind I will ask another branch salesperson..

Ps: thanks to those that reply me and show me photos, I guess the silver is abit dark. I just don't want to buy the wrong color and regret that's all..
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It is actually not bright silver. Mayne it is just the image. In real life it is more greyish especially in low light conditions. Else, why else would they want to term the color code tinted silver? Makes sense?

For me, it is very simple. If you manage to see the car in person. Just point and say you want that color. It is the responsibility of the SA not to show and make the wrong order for you. If ever in doubt, ask and ask again just to make sure.

Even better, take a pic of it. If the car turns up wrong either due to the SA being a noob or whatever, you can always tell the SA he got you the wrong one and don't accept it.

You are lucky they even allowed you into the stockyard. Blardy hell, when i got mine. I was only given the color palette to choose my color when i asked which btw is just like a small blob of squarish paint of all the available colors and i had to use my imagination on how it would look like on an entire car shakehead.gif

QUOTE(RevolutionWorks @ Jun 28 2016, 09:48 AM)
and I want to pick blue and they said blue is discontinued and replaced with red... sad.gif Im sad...
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Anyways, the new carnival red replacing the outgoing replacing sporty blue is actually not bad. I saw one fitted with a bodykit (dun ask me which one) and a set of white rims and it looks sweeeeeeetttttt! Actually, for me the blue is kinda hard to mix and match properly. I hated the red at first but after seeing an example of a nice one. I was convinced. Maybe in stock form it doesn't look that pretty. But, it does improve if it was kitted up. Just my 2 cents

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post Jun 28 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Jun 27 2016, 11:08 PM)
New salesman will say silver or white but experience one will say tinted silver and taffeta white

I oso surprised to see the silver color is darker. I would choose the red color or black color but only tinted silver was available as ready stock.
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Very seldom see black ones to be frank. I think it doesn't look as good on a Jazz.

The tafetta white is not bad too but i think generally a lot of people just hate it because of the amount of care you have to put into it.
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post Jun 28 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Jun 27 2016, 06:16 PM)
ok, maybe i used a wrong example, if i change that word "vios" to "city" will it be ok to you? my problem is, i saw city with silver metallic and it's light silver to me, i saw online honda website shows a light silver as "silver metallic" and i saw another color "modern steel" as dark silver. but when i'm at the stockyard the salesman show me a dark silver jazz and said "that's the silver jazz, the only silver" and i was skeptical. so i asked here. is there a problem with that? fyi that salesman is near 40 years old with 10 years exp in car sales, previously selling proton then kia then come honda, he got 7 yrs exp in honda, so why would u jump into conclusion that this salesperson just "masuk kerja"? i'm just skeptical because that is the only jazz still available and he MAYBE wanted to quickly push it to us and close the deal instead of waiting for the next shipment.
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If there is no promo ongoing. There is no point in rushing into a decision la.

This is not some uniqlo shirt that you buy today and tomorrow you find that you hate the color and can buy or exchange another one leh. So, do think hard and do some research to see if you really really want the color.

Overall, i think the tafetta white, modern steel and tinted silver are not bad in stock form. But, if you were to kit the car out, i think tafetta white, carnival red and tinted silver looks much better if you were to play around with it.
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post Jun 28 2016, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Jun 28 2016, 01:28 PM)
Actually the one driving would not be me although I pay and under my name. It's my mum. All her previous cars are bright silver, coz easier to maintain. She die die don't want the white, thought I actually prefer the white or red. Too bad.. Hard to persuade her unless it's my own car. Bcoz when I'm at the stockyard, there are a few city and hrv around that is light silver that's why I'm puzzled and thought the salesman try to trick me. Now I know the silver is dark silver. That solves the mystery..

I don't think I'll be kitting the car since mum is going to be the main driver. I've seen the white color Mugen version and modulo version and they look great but silver just doesn't seemed nice with kits.
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Actually the silver looks better with kits than the modern metallc for some odd reasons. You just can't get those over the top ones only. The mild looking ones with a set of Silver Enkei RPF1 would be great. I've seen one example so far and i think it is acceptable. Nice but not too flashy.
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post Jun 28 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(clcheah @ Jun 28 2016, 04:01 PM)
Hi All,

Do you think the bumper of our car is too low and the tailgate can be easily damaged during minor accident. For my case it was moderately hit by Myvi.
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Actually. How do you define that it is too low. Problem is, different cars accident will cause damage to different parts of the car.

This time Myvi will bang until like this, next time Pajero bang you also will kena mah no matter how high your trunk is. Isn't it?
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post Jun 28 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 04:10 PM)
Has anyone changed their stock GY tyres? If so, after the change was the NVH reduced much?
Am thinking of changing my stock tyres even though it has only traveled 26k km... I think still got 70% balance threadware
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When you look for alternative tires, try to look for their EU Label as well. Gives you a rough idea of the noise level of the tires. It looks like this
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It is not 100% accurate because different tire width, profile produces different results. But, it gives you a model by model comparison to get you as close to what you are looking for.

If you really have money to burn. I don't see why not, just that it is a bit wasteful even though you can sell it back outside yourself for some money. The most important thing is to take a mental note on how the tires are when they are brand spanking new. So, you know how it changes when the thread depth runs low as that affects the road noise that it generates. 70% is seriously a lot left to go, but it depends highly on how long you had them on the car as well.

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post Jun 28 2016, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 28 2016, 04:27 PM)
26k still got 70%...? You must be a very careful driver...

I'm hitting 30k, more than 50% gone... And yes, at this point it is very noisy...
I read somewhere got GE owner changed to Mich XM2, very quiet... Else, time to soundproof your floor... brows.gif
SIDENOTE:

Just did 35k km service and changed driver airbag today... Waited 5 hours at service center... ph34r.gif
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My DRB was dead just short of 25k. Worn them down on the sides until i saw the protective underplies. Blardy hell.

Actually, the most sound i realized coming into the cabin is from the rear spare wheel weld. I bought some 3m thinsulate some months back and before i cut it. I stuffed everything i had into the spare wheel weld and went out for a drive. It did reduced the noise by quite a bit.

Anyways, my thinsulate was planned to be used on the doors as i thought that was where majority of the noise came in. But, till today it is still gathering dust at home.
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post Jun 28 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 04:36 PM)
Definitely careful bro coz I don't drive it. It's driven by wifey sending kids to and from school only. So, no drifting... Haha...
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I'd be worried if your wife send the car sideways coming into the school gate sweat.gif
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post Jun 28 2016, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 04:39 PM)
Didn't know about this EU rating. Thanks...

Just itchy butt / hands that wanted to change tyres, even though it's not me driving it... Haha...
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It has been there all along. A more standardized way of telling tire ratings unless one of the tire manufacturers pulled a VW on you.

Word of advise, dun itchy if the wifey ain't complaining. After she itchy ask u to change car, you die.
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(clcheah @ Jun 28 2016, 04:52 PM)
To answer your question, I have never defined the Jazz bumper is too low. I just ask around if anyone feels it is too low and encountered the same problem likes me. Most probably we can't do much with it but at least we could know about it.
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Yeah, but the term "low" must have a standard also right? Because i've seen some Jazz reverse and hit those parking poles and damaged their trunk also and you know how short are those things la.

But, technically comparing it with sedans. The lowest point of the trunk is actually higher i believe which is why most of the time the bumper gets more damage in minor incidents.

For hatches like Jazz, it is more of a perspective thing when if you get hit from behind. The entire trunk + rear windscreen + sometimes taillights and whatever stuff is on the tailgate gets whacked out of order and it sort of gives you a sense that there is more damage compared to other cars.

Functionally, there is also reasons on why it has to be that low because of ease of loading stuff into the car. In the Jazz, you sort of slide stuff in compared to sedans where you have to lift it up higher and then bend down just to put stuff into the trunk because it sinks in rather than being leveled.

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post Jun 28 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 04:53 PM)
I'll buy 4d if my wife ever does it (in a safe zone of course!) haha
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Haha, dun underestimate woman.

QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 04:54 PM)
Actually, I'm the one pestering her to change the car even though I'm the one paying for it! Haha... Was eying on the new Honda civic! smile.gif
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Change car lar, wait wat jeh. Still change tire for wat woh.

L15B7 yo!
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 28 2016, 05:12 PM)
You say it reduced quite a bit - that is when you were driving and not sitting as rear passenger...?

Where can I get my hands on 3M thinsulate...?
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Yes, driving cos my car usually only me and my other half. Seldom got rear passengers. That is also my baseline since i spend more time in front than the rear.

For the thinsulate, i bought it off Lelong last time and i think i noticed someone selling it in garage sale as well.

p/s: here it is, not sure still active or not

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3628383/all

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3612406/all

You have to buy the right thickness or some stuff you can't stuff or close back if too thick. This is the same stuff you see inside your car as well. I think just behind the glove box if you open like you do to change aircond filter, you will see a small white piece of it stuck behind the glove box.

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post Jun 28 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(clcheah @ Jun 28 2016, 05:15 PM)
Yea, things got pros and cons. Just need to be more careful on the road especially doing emergency braking.
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This is the arguable thing la. I think none of us common mortals can take care of the "emergency" in front while also taking care of the rear right?

It's like

1) oh sh1t!!!! the buhgger in front of me stop for nothing
2) better brake hard
3) whew! nearly hit the useless buhgger
4) shit! the car at the back cannot stop in time. Still coming on full steam ahead
5) release the brake a bit more since still got space in front to give the car at the back more space

All this in no more than 2~3 seconds, doubt it.

Emergency braking for us is most of the time putting our arms up in the air and run around like surrender monkeys.
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post Jun 28 2016, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 28 2016, 06:37 PM)
GE feminist look mah...  tongue.gif  brows.gif
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Damn, dat means we are all sissies.
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post Jun 28 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 06:30 PM)
Definately ok for me to change but wifey don't want!!! She prefers her jazz!!!  sweat.gif
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Yer wife is every s dream wife.
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post Jun 28 2016, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 28 2016, 06:43 PM)
Yeah... Am very blessed to have her but also at the same time wanna change car for her also problem... Haha... But good problem!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Jus be blessed ur wife dun force u to buy a beemer for her.

But, i believe when the time comes with the right reasons (car old, very dangerous) she will let u change it.
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post Jun 28 2016, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 28 2016, 07:10 PM)
Does that mean GK female owners all tomboys transplanted with fake "batangs"...?  brows.gif
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Deng, you mean you are a tranny?

Batang is not a bonus in here OK?

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