But it is usually quite a tough little thing la. Not so easy to break the motor unless you are really not taking care of it.

Sticking with 30 weight oils would most probably be a better idea long term wise. 20 weight is just a little thin if you drive it like a monster.

10 out of 10 replica aftermarket bodykit la. Apa boleh expect? Kan the light very cheap to replace only?

WTF! It costs RM20+ to buy back if you get those Honda packing ones. I just cement it to the nut after mine got stolen.

Jazz more sporty looking la. A lot of people say it is a girls car. But, with money dumped in the right direction. It is definitely a dude's car as well.

Even if you look at bodykits. There is just simply more options for Jazz than a City.

People itchy hand la. Just superglue the damn thing to the nut next time la.

I think this has been debated many times. While both shares the same base chassis. Jazz is simply just the utilitarian and City is your normal average Sedan. You just need to understand if you really need what the Jazz offers and decide from there. The City does come up a few thousand higher. But, it gains you a boot.

To top it off, if you never use the Ultraseats. It will soon be a rattly bit in your car and that comes with extra noise from the wheel welds as there is less sounds insulation due to a different rear seat design compared to a City

You can always knife the darn cap off. Furthermore, the cement is not like superstrong. It just prevents it from being twisted off easily with your fingers. You can still pull / pry it off but it might leave some rubbery bits behind which should not be a hindrance to your socket in loosening the nut off.

They could have left it idling for very long as well. That will also result in high fuel consumption as the car is idling but not moving.

Whether it was trashed or not. You really do not know unless you get them to take the logs out via the OBDII. There would be some logs to tell you how long the motor stay in which rev range.

But in reality. You can't be too picky about it. As long as they are not taking your car to go play bumper car with other cars. And the motor is made to be able to withstand whatever we can throw at them. So, it is a take it or leave it situation as they need to do their due diligence by taking the car out for a Pre-Delivery Check as well.

It is just how you view the matter at the end of the day

RM7.40 huh? My car is already out of the service center. Wonder if they will just sell me the wiper refills?

Pulling the caps off is a massively crazy job. It is there in the first place to protect the nuts from getting rust with rain fall. If you park outside, it doesn't really make sense as you are preventing the caps from doing it's job.

And to be fair, it is darn hard to pull the caps off after cementing it to the nut. No joke, i tried and it cannot be done by hand. And for whatever reasons it is coming off. Not really gonna be that usable after that.

I know it is not the same thing. But, they bring the each engine that goes into a Veyron or R35 into an engine room and crank it up to max revs for a certain period of time. If you believe what happened to yours is not good for the car. Imagine what happened to those?

I know it is uncomfortable to see that it clocked mileage and things of such. But, at least you know that it had things done to it. Wouldn't it be more worrying if you see 0 mileage clocked which might indicate they can reset things and hide even worst things done to the car from you?

Personally, i'd prefer the former. At least i know they are not defecating in my car. It's really no point to get worked up on why what happened, happened. Seriously. Don't lose sleep over it.

Those watery like clear based cement that bonds in like 10 seconds that sells for like RM5+ and above for a very small stick or bottle that needs the plastic tip cut off during first use. I can't remember the brand name.

Looks a bit like this or sometimes in a small plastic bottle form for other brands


Not those UHU super glue type. That doesn't keep it stuck.

Nah. The 5w doesn't really matter much to us as we don't have winter although it gives a bit of range to the viscosity over the entire temperature band.

It's usually this


or the newer packaging for the semi synthetic


Honda price being honda price. You can't say much at RM113 la.

But for a good comparison, the oil filter Japan not Thai one (still blue colored but with some japanese wording) can be had for RM25 outside before GST. Thai ones are RM20 and there are some green colored ones. It is just a little over a buck off the Honda price which i assume is after 15% discount.

Actually, i am not sure about the rear leg room on the GK5 vs GE8 as i no longer have my stock seats anymore. It feels kinda same because the front seats are damn bulky especially if you have it pushed all the way back.

I do agree however that the city doors feels more solid especially the front ones. You can notice that the Jazz rear doors are actually very well and closes with a thud sound rather than a clunk sound from the front. I deduced that down to the fact that the City has rather similar length doors front and back while the Jazz has a rather shorter rear door and a rather long front door which seems to be causing it.

For the lack of a better picture for comparison



It is more apparent when you look at the GE. The jazz even loses 70mm in wheelbase to the City, so that 70mm must have gone missing somewhere in between the front and rear wheels.

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All honda promo is like that. You have to get the car registered during the promo period.

If after that and your car still not registered you don't get the discount.

But, you can always reject it from going forward and get your booking fee back. Jus make sure they can ensure the delivery date within period or do not go forward with signing the hire purchase loa. It is always your rights to stop it dead in its track because if you have no money to pay also they wun give you the car

Only the engineers will know. Maybe more room, maybe for handling. Not sure

Watever it is. Its not legit oils la. At least, you are not having an opened bottle of oil

No la, its not leftover. Cause i usually check if the cap has been opened before. And i open the cap at the shop and try to put the bottle upside down to see if it leaks through the seals or anything (call me paranoid but i dun care).

If they can draw out or put back oil without tampering the bottle. I have nothing to say lo.

Not within your control la. You don't get to stand beside your car and watch them do it do you?

This is why they are not going the direction of selling it in bottle now. They are going with charge based on usage.

There is actually 2 fully synthetic. One being the green LEV based gold bottle (for insight actually) which is cheaper and the white bottle with reddish vtec head cover which goes for 220 per bottle.

I think your price is same as kl leh.

As for why you need to stand beside. For me, if i have to leave my car there. I'd rather be standing beside it as i have nowhere else to go so i can see they do the work properly.

This is the sole reason i change my oil myself now. You can say i have trust issues. But i dun care. I stood before at the small gate near to the workshop overlooking the car until i annoyed one of the sc staff that told me to go wait at the waiting are stating that area is off limits for outsides and i was actually outside the small gate that no one ever passes through

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As for what oil honda is using. No need to speculate la. At that price what do you expect la seriously.

This is why i switched over to redline. And it doesn't really cost too much. Just a little over rm50 per liter.