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ayanami_tard
post Jan 7 2014, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 6 2014, 11:56 PM)
trainers?
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Those are trainer variant to replace the Hawk Mk.53
SUSking of fighter
post Jan 7 2014, 05:01 PM

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ada peluang besar Malaysia akan dapat diskaun istimewa pesawat pejuang rafale serta lain-lain free gift dari perancis camni kan..

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...n-in-Msia.aspx/
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 6 2014, 11:56 PM)
trainers?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAI_T-50_Golden_Eagle

Unit cost
T-50: US$21 million (2008)[3]
TA-50: US$25 million (2011)[4]
FA-50: US$30 million (2012)[5]


range of 1851km

If the price is $5million and range of 10,000km.... that would be really nice. Probably can rent one to fly all over the place.
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post Jan 8 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(king of fighter @ Jan 7 2014, 05:01 PM)
ada peluang besar Malaysia akan dapat diskaun istimewa pesawat pejuang rafale serta lain-lain free gift dari perancis camni kan..

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...n-in-Msia.aspx/
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but dat company suppork yahudi..
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 8 2014, 12:13 AM)
but dat company suppork yahudi..
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support..but not made in israel..there's difference in that.. icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 8 2014, 01:13 AM)
but dat company suppork yahudi..
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u sound worst than perkosa
azriel
post Jan 8 2014, 08:38 AM

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Defense Ministry looking to replace aging F-5 tiger fighter aircraft

Tue, January 7 2014 22:39 | 459 Views

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - The Indonesian Defense Ministry announced its plan to replace the F-5 Tiger fighter aircraft with the latest generation of jet fighters such as the Russian Sukhoi Su-35.

"We have received proposals from several jet fighter manufacturers for replacing the F-5 Tiger fighter aircraft. We are in the process of evaluating which jet fighter will best suit our requirements, whether the aircraft is from Russia, USA, or other countries," stated Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro, here on Tuesday.

Purnomo spoke about the plan after holding a meeting with Indonesian Military Commander General Moeldoko and Indonesian Air Force Chief of Staff Marshall Ida Bagus Putu Dunia, here on Tuesday.

The minister pointed out that they have at least 5 to 6 options of jet fighters to replace the aging F-5 Tiger fighter aircraft, which has been in service for over three decades.

He urged several officers to weigh all their available options to zero down upon which jet fighter meets the specifications to replace the "Tiger".

The minister hoped that the officers can arrive at a decision soon, so that the requisition plan can be included in Indonesias Strategic Plan II 2015 to 2020.

"I hope the finalized next-generation jet fighter is capable of carrying long-range missiles," Purnomo added.

Meanwhile, General Moeldoko remarked that the Indonesian Air Force has conducted a study on several jet fighters such as the Russian Sukhoi Su-35, the American F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon, and the Swedish Fighter SAAB JAS 39 Gripen.

"We are still evaluating the options. It depends on Indonesias financial position," Moeldoko stated.

Ida noted that the Indonesian Air Force is willing to have a squadron of 16 new jet fighters to replace the aging F-5 Tiger.

"We will follow the Strategic Plan. We will also revise the decision in line with the command of the Indonesian Military Commander and Defense Minister as well as taking into consideration the state finances," Ida claimed.

Marshall stated that the Air Force can substitute the old jet fighter in the Strategic Plan in order to defend Indonesian sovereignty.(*)


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looks like Indon is not focusing on SEA nations anymore, but more towards Australia..
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post Jan 8 2014, 09:05 AM

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Roundup: Indonesia continues modernization of its air force

Updated: 2014-01-08 02:23:00
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JAKARTA, January 7 (Xinhua) -- Indonesia will continue to beef up its air force by purchasing more modern warplanes to replace its ageing F-5 Tiger E/F multirole fighter jets that have been serving for more than 30 years.

Two planes remain in service from a total of 12 single and double-seat ones that Indonesia procured from the U.S. producer Northrop in early 1980s.

Indonesian Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro disclosed on Tuesday that the fighter jet considered to replace F-5 Tiger should be able to carry out tactical tasks, and launch long-range missiles.

"I have advised them to consider on airworthiness and technical capability aspects to pick the most suitable plane to replace the F-5 Tiger," the minister said on the sidelines of a meeting with senior military officers.

Indonesian air force planned to procure one squadron of brand new warplanes with delivery expected to take place in the second military's 5-year strategic plan (Renstra) period from 2015 to 2020.

During the first Renstra period from 2010 to 2014, Indonesia allocated a total of 12.4 billion U.S. dollars to finance modernization of its military, including the procurement of new fighter jets for the air force.

Indonesian air force now operates one squadron of Sukhoi 27/30 fleet whose delivery from Russia was completed late last year. Deliveries of other planes included Super Tucano from Brazil, KT-1 Wong Bee and T-50 Golden Eagle from South Korea and Grob G120 from Germany. 

Indonesia is also expecting the delivery of 24 refurbished F-16 fighter jets granted by the United States. 

Indonesian military commander General Moeldoko said on Monday that the military planned to strengthen the air force by purchasing more weaponry.

The commander said that Sukhoi SU-35 and F-16 were among the option.

Indonesia has struggled to boost its weaponry to the minimum essential force, which may put its strength at par with other ASEAN countries.

Indonesian air force has received 8 out of 16 T-50 Golden Eagle jet fighters ordered from South Korea, according to the military.

The country has decided to diversify the source of its weaponry as it has witnessed poor experience in purchasing weaponry from the United States in the past.

Terrorism, transnational crimes and insurgency are among the main threat being faced by Indonesian military.


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post Jan 8 2014, 09:14 AM

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looks like Indon is not focusing on SEA nations anymore, but more towards Australia..
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More like going forward to compliment it's defence agenda in relation of their huge landmass and population

Deswai Minimum Essential Force (MEF) is launched
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 8 2014, 09:14 AM)
More like going forward to compliment it's defence agenda in relation of their huge landmass and population

Deswai Minimum Essential Force (MEF) is launched
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and that too..but their procurement is quite..good..too good for SEA..
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post Jan 8 2014, 09:27 AM

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and that too..but their procurement is quite..good..too good for SEA..
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Cuz they suddenly buddy2 with the americans and nato got apache, leo2 is it?

They should have keep up with the current tech long time ago, but the embargo in the 90's held them back
Not a good idea to kill those civilians in papua
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post Jan 8 2014, 11:12 AM

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The Submarine Race in Asia

Published: January 7, 2014

On Jan. 1, Vietnam received its first of six Russian Kilo-class submarines. The last one is expected to be delivered in 2016. Myanmar intends to create a submarine force by 2015. Thailand plans to include the purchase of submarines in its soon-to-be-announced 10 -year armed forces development proposal. Thai officers are already enrolled at submarine training schools in Germany and South Korea, two potential submarine suppliers.

Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia have submarine fleets and plan to procure more. Malaysia paid a Franco-Spanish consortium $1.1 billion for two submarines in 2007 and 2009. Indonesia expects to replace its two aging submarines and expand its fleet to 12 with submarines from South Korea and possibly Russia by 2020. Only the Philippines, among the big nations, has not acquired new submarines yet.

These countries are not arming against each other. The arms expansion is a reaction to increasing uncertainty about the distribution of power in the region, caused largely by the extension of Chinese naval power into the South China Sea and Indian Ocean. But Chinese naval expansion is not likely to be halted by these submarine fleets. China will simply augment its anti-submarine capability. Each expansion only adds to regional suspicion and tension.

It is not at all clear that China would be more restrained with its aggressive claim if these nations possessed more military power. Japan’s substantial military power, including an advanced submarine fleet, has not stopped China from acting on its territorial claim against Japan in the East China Sea. The Association of Southeast Asian Nations needs to act collectively to negotiate with China to prevent further destabilization, instead of each country dealing separately with China.

Much of this arms competition is propelled by growing wealth in Southeast Asia, which is tied to the 21st-century global economy. These countries and China should realize that increasing their armaments can only undermine their security as well as the stability that nurtures their economies.


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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 8 2014, 09:27 AM)
Cuz they suddenly buddy2 with the americans and nato got apache, leo2 is it?

They should have keep up with the current tech long time ago, but the embargo in the 90's held them back
Not a good idea to kill those civilians in papua
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yet can get apaches and leos.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 12:13 PM

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yet can get apaches and leos.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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yeah..damn they're scary now..nex they will have Su-35..all attention now to Indonesia's defence expenditure rather than Singapore's.. sad.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 01:09 PM

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Indonesian delegation headed for Russia to negotiate submarine acquisition

Kenneth Conboy, Jakarta - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
06 January 2014

A delegation from the Indonesian armed forces and Ministry of Defence (MoD) will visit Russia to negotiate the acquisition of an unspecified number of submarines, armed forces commander General Moeldoko said in Jakarta on 6 January.

While Indonesia would prefer to purchase new submarines outright, Gen Moeldoko did not discount the possibility of receiving second-hand boats. "We will observe and assess both options," he said.

The Indonesian Navy currently operates two Cakra Type 209/1300 submarines built in the late-1970s that it is replacing with three Chang Bogo-class Type 209/1200 diesel-electric attack submarines under a USD1.1 billion contract signed with South Korea's Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) in December 2011.


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post Jan 8 2014, 06:28 PM

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What to Expect in 2014?

Posted on January 8, 2014 by hafizuddinsulaiman

On October 25, 2013, the Prime Minister has announced the 2014 budget at the Parliament which also involved the allocation of RM 13.2 billion for the Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF), RM 8.8 billion for the Royal Malaysian Police (RMP) and RM 75 million for ESSCOM.

RM 2.4 billion out of the RM 13.2 billion budget will be allocated for the procurement of six offshore patrol vessel (referring to six Littoral Combat Ships to be built by BNS), four cargo aircraft (referring to four Airbus Military A400M Atlas) and armoured vehicles (which also include DEFTECH AV8).

Another RM 48 million will be allocated for servicemen’s welfare as well as the MAF veterans and RM 202 million the construction and repairs of MAF living quarters. Part of the budget will also include the procurement of school bus services for servicemen’s children in order to replace the popular Feri Sekolah, converted military 3 tonnes trucks equipped with ladders for school transportation.

Following the announcement, the Minister for Defence told that the allocated budget would be used to ensure that current defence equipment are in good conditions.

The Minister also told that there is no new procurement planned as a result of the budget.

Meanwhile RM 128 million out of RM 8.8 billion allocated for the RMP will be provided for the construction and upgrade works on RMP’s Police HQ, District HQ as well as living quarters.

RM 200 million from the allocated budget will be used for the procurement of weapons, munitions, bullet proof vests and helmets, narcotic detection equipment, biometric system and forensic vehicles. RM 20 million will be used to add 496 CCTVs. 2014 will see, 200 more motorcycles would also being procured for the RMP’s Motorcycle Patrol Unit (URB), making a total of 2,000 units being procured for the unit.

Nevertheless, no further elaboration being made by the Prime Minister during the budget announcement as to what the RM 75 million allocation would be used for. The allocated budget though, according to the Minister of the Prime Minister Office, does not include the cost to relocate of water villages in the command’s area of responsibilities.

Henceforth, what to expect in 2014?

RMAF

1. The RMAF is expected to initiate upgrade works on the veteran Sikorsky S-61A-4 Nuri of which 15 surviving helicopters are currently in service along with the much newer Eurocopter EC725 AP Super Cougar.

2. While the Prime Minister has announced that part of the RM2.4 billion would be allocated for four A-400M Atlas strategic transport aircraft, the first of such would only being delivered to the RMAF by 2015.

3. A report by Marhalim Abas (here) indicated that additional Pilatus PC-7 Mk II turboprop trainer would be acquire in order to make the current RMAF’s Mk II fleet to 30. These Mk IIs are expected to fully replace the earlier Mk I variants, of which up to 40 have been delivered and operated by PULATIBANG I since 1983.

As I’ve already mentioned in my previous posts, ARMSCOR, theSouth Africa’s authorised arms dealer is now looking for potential buyers of 18 of SAAF’s Pilatus PC-7 Mk II glass cockpit equipped, turboprop trainer which had been in storage. (here and here)

4. Indonesian media report mentioned about Indonesian Aerospace (IAe) success to secure more works from other ASEAN countries. These include conversion works on two RMAF CN-235 as maritime patrol aircraft (MPA). (here)

The Malaysian Army

1. As have been mentioned by the Prime Minister in October 2013, the Army would be receiving armoured wheeled vehicles which would probably include DEFTECH AV8 as well as suitable APC to replace the Radpanzer Condors deployed to Lebanon as part of UNIFIL peacekeeping mission.

2. There was also report indicating that the PUTD’s AgustaWestland A109LOH would be armed (presumably with rocket and machine gun pods). Three of these helicopters have already been forward deployed to Sabah as part of Ops Daulat, hence, it is thought that the up-arming of the helicopters is in line with their role there.

The RMN

1. Works on KD Mutiara is still going-on by MMHE at its shipyard facilities in Pasir Gudang, Johor. (here)

2. As part of ESSCOM, new RHIB boats operated by the RMN would be procured and deployed. The Joint Force Command (Mk AB) had recently conducted introductory exercise following the procurement of ACB 800C Toman boats supplied by BU Maritime Industry Sdn Bhd (here)

The RMP

1. By April 2014, the Marine Police as part of ESSCOM would be receiving 17 new assault and combat boats. Out of these, five have already arrived in Lahad Datu. Each of these new boats worth RM 1.2 million. Beside these new boats, two 26 meters patrol boats which could accommodate 10 people are also expected to be delivered next year. (here)

2. Following announcement made during General Police Equipment Exhibition and Conference (GPEC) Asia 2013 in Putrajaya last October, the RMP is looking for 10 up-armoured, all terrain four wheeled drive Mobile Police Vehicle (MPV) to be used in Sabah.

It’s quite interesting that several defence blog and forums have reported sightings of an unspecified type of MRAP conducting tests along the road. (here) The RMP would also be deploying Weststar assembled 4WD vehicles to Sabah as part of ESSCOM.

3. Despite the unit has already in operation since November 2013, the Special Task Force On Organized Crime (STAFOC) would be enforced in January 2014. (here) Nevertheless, the elite unit has already scored several high-profile success including the arrest of two Filipino informers which led to the release of a Taiwanese tourist abducted in Sabah (here) as well as the arrest of the Tuhan Harun deviating cult members who were responsible for the assassination of a Pahang religious officer and many more.(here)

With austerity measures being undertaken in order to lower the deficit and that  the Defence Service Asia (DSA) 2014 exhibition is just a few months away, one wonder what sort of new procurement would be intiated by the Government for the MAF and other para-public law enforcement and security agencies in 2014?


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Recapitalising the Navy, Sort Of

Marhalim Abas January 8, 2014 Malaysia -RMN

KUALA LUMPUR: The contract which will kick off the construction of the LCS/SGPV is expected to be signed by the end of the month, Royal Malaysian Navy chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar said today.

He however declined to say when actual construction for the first of the six-class LCS/SGPV will start as according to him, it depended on various factors. He said currently Boustead Naval Shipyard personnel were in France to finalise details on RMN’s latest vessel – expected to be in service by 2018.

Abdul Aziz admitted that it was quite important for the construction of the LCS/SGPV to start as soon as possible as the RMN was facing challenges in its ability to conduct its maritime operations as mandated by the government due to lack of hulls. He said RMN was involved in in eight operations presently which forced the command to be “very intelligent” to allocate precious resources.

Currently, RMN ships goes to sea for two weeks before returning to base for two days to refuel and re-supply before going back to sea for another two weeks patrol. Abdul Aziz admitted the high operational tempo was affecting morale and that was the reason he had emphasised to his commanders to ensure that their crew’s welfare and their families were taken care off

He declined to say the navy was facing a crisis,instead, calling the situation as a challenge to the RMN. He admitted however that if new assets were not made available in the future, RMN will be facing a crisis.

Abdul Aziz said they nearly got to procure the Nakhoda Ragam corvettes which were very similar to the Jebat class frigates. However due to budgetary reasons, the ex-Brunei corvettes went elsewhere, with reports suggesting that the three were by Indonesia. He said they were interested in acquiring vessels retired from other navies to ease the challenges but in the end it will depend the ships offered.

Abdul Aziz was speaking to reporters after delivering the annual RMN New Year Message at Wisma Pertahanan today. Some 500 Navy officers and other ranks were present at the event which was simulcast live to various RMN facilities across the country.

Meanwhile, Abdul Aziz said KD Kasturi, the first ship in the 22 Corvette Squadron had been declared operational following the completion of its SLEP programme. With the completion of the SLEP on Kasturi, its sister ship KD Lekir is currently at the Boustead Naval Shipyard facility to undergo the same refit programme.

The other corvette squadron, Skdn 24, is also undergoing a refit programme which will see the four Laksamana class ships be re-designated called Fast Attack Craft (Gun). Yes, the Laksamana class missile systems, the Aspide and the Otomat, have been retired as their RTN-10X fire control radar with Mk10 Argo fire control system are obsolete. A new electro-optical director will be used to control the 76mm and 40mm guns. The Laksamana class will also no longer be capable of anti-submarine warfare as their torpedo launchers have been transferred to the Kasturi and Lekir.

Funds for the above programmes mentioned above is the allocation for the RMN for this year. For ESSCOM, the Navy is set to commission two new vessels, a RHIB and a speedboat, both capable of doing 60 knots. Both vessels were built locally, the RHIB from a Muar shipyard while the speedboat from another yard from Johor Bahru.


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