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post Dec 18 2013, 02:23 AM

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thing is, the us view my/sg situation like jordan+egypt+saudi arabia/israel in the middle east

they're trying to stabilize the region by rearming it's closest ally with the best weaponry possible, while also re-arming other allies in the region. the latter won't have qualitative edge to invade the former but are adequately armed just in case shyt happens. the former are better armed qualitatively but will not have clear quantitative edge to launch strategic-scale open war against its neighbors (which are also US allies).

it's a way for the US to stabilize the region. any imbalance in term of military acquisition will definitely destabilize the whole region.

try going through jordanian military assets. they are at least 1 generation behind the israeli, yet better than anything the syrian or iraninan have at the moment. same goes with egypt. they are the strongest military power in the whole of africa

the only way to bypass this logic is by buying other countries' equipmentd. but then it will make us farther from the us. as much as we hate it we still have to rely on unker sam just in case shyt happens
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post Dec 18 2013, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:08 PM)
E-3 price around 600~700 million.... u know ...$$$
best if we can get B737 MESA, but price will be 1 unit for USD 400 million (2010).  maybe now need 450 Million. i think we have no budget for that. most value/Performance is C295 Aew price expected around 200 million but too bad it used Israel Elta technology.  all have 8 hours flight time.

E2D AEW also need 250 million, so next we can afford is SAAB 2000 or Bombarded R99 AEW both price around USD 100 million. all just short flight range 3+- hours.
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i'd take erieye with any platform ahead of E-2. but doubt the US will let their brand new plane to be integrated with other peoples' aew. and Sweden isn't actually a NATO allies.

surely they will try to include a package under Peace.......something name.

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new frigate:check
new APC:check
complement MRCA:otw
AEW:with MRCA

now we can turn our attention to SPH and attack helos.

can we bastardize our FH-70 on handalan truck? surely it's not that hard to do.(should also turn our oto melaras into a SPH but problem is Oto melara isn't suitable for such conversion unlike longer,heavier, sturdier gun like the venerable american M101)
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post Dec 18 2013, 07:32 PM

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17 new boats? good

with rumors saying that around 30 of them mundu mofos are moving from jolo to cause trouble during christmas, the news is really good to hear

hope them mundus are blasted from the sea before they have any chance to land on the shore
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post Dec 19 2013, 07:29 AM

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JAS-39NG wins the brazillian tender....congrats


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post Dec 19 2013, 07:59 AM

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buy...

http://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2013/...elo-gripen.html

can wait for SAAB to put it in their website shortly
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post Dec 19 2013, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 19 2013, 12:22 PM)
Could include join development like swiss deals. hmm.gif
Swiss deal were 22 units @ usd3.3bil.
besides gripen ng still under development.
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ofc. brazil has embraer to tend to.

still, F/A-18F is still more suited to our requirement. and the facility and crews are there to maintain the F/A-18
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:40 PM

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MEF are indonesian programme to rearm themselves after the severe arms embargo+conflicts in acheh and east timor+hampered programme due to 97 crisis and tsunami.

we have started rearming ourselves since mid 90s

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post Dec 19 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 19 2013, 03:06 PM)
We too suffer from 97 crisis.
if not because of that we would have 18 hornets.
then a major mismanagement in kedah class project.
Later we were struck by 2007/8 golbal crisis cancellation of lekui class bath 2, mpss and even sph. Sigh.
Currently indon on spending spree so nice.
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yes but the "hurr durr jiran beli kereta (kebal),kita pun kena beli kereta (kebal) gak"-thing is stupid. rather than going into spending spree (which we will see next year), i'd rather see we give more attention on smaller things. improving our grunts' kit, installation of radars in our frontiers, addition of new surveillence system,etcetc. everything is in place right now.

besides, we already have our own high-profile procument.don't expect we replace our aging equipments in one go. not to mention other capabilities that we are lacking right now

while waiting for another high-profile procurements, what we can do now is to improve our combat readiness and surveillence capability. since we going to get our own marine corps, expect the gomen to spend on it as well.
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post Dec 19 2013, 09:39 PM

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having said that, i think we should study the possibility of building our own SPH and MLRS that will complement our current artillery inventory.

i'm sure guys at Hicom can get the blueprint for BM-21 grad easily. it's not that hard.
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post Dec 19 2013, 11:28 PM

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i think Sapura and CTRM can be tasked to develop the inertial guidance system. dun think it's that hard to stick a gun to a truck (the thais did it,iran did it, hell even sudan did it).

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vietnam with their sph, marrying good old M101 105mm gun with....is that kamaz 6x6 truck?

by building our own SPH, while may not as advanced as western SPH, it will be perfectly suited with our own requirement.i think the reason why none of the SPH was selected (despite being tested in malaysia) was because either it didn't fill our requirement or too expensive

the reason why i'm leaning towards truck SPH (instead of armored SPH) is that not only that it is simpler and cheaper, but also lighter and can be transported easily by C-130, as proved with the french utilizing Caesar when fighting them sand kebabs in africa
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post Dec 20 2013, 08:35 PM

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considering that the pinoys dun have a dedicated counter-terror unit (no those marine recon is not a counter terror unit), and how "cemerlang" they are in dealing them bus-hijacker incidents couple of years ago, i'd wager they'd ask for "foreign consultancy" first

as for the vat 69, we dun say we send, we dun say we dun send, so nobody actually know
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post Dec 21 2013, 11:56 PM

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i know that "form above function" isnt necessarily true in military design but hell, that is one fugly ship design


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post Dec 22 2013, 06:33 PM

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chinese (eventual) answer to USA's Nimitz and Gerald Ford Class CVN

http://news.yahoo.com/china-developing-11-...-092729535.html

Beijing, Dec. 22 (ANI): China has declared it is building a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

The size of the carrier will be huge enough to rival the biggest in United States naval service in the first move of a major new arms race.

According to China Daily, Chinese website qianzhan.com said 'top People's Liberation Army' sources as saying the 110,000-ton aircraft carrier should be launched by 2020.

The news follows rising tensions in the South and East China Seas.

The design of the carrier is reportedly based on drawings from the former Soviet Union of a nuclear-powered, 80,000 ton vessel capable of carrying 60 aircraft, the report added.(ANI)
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post Dec 22 2013, 09:44 PM

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Ada wang, ada ahmoi kapal....
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post Dec 23 2013, 06:27 PM

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sure the lads up in RMAF did a great job keeping the bird intact (and thus also cementing the venerable status in of the S-61/sea king), but i bet the man hour per flight hour gotta be high due to aging fuselage, stress fatigue, etc

after all teh "high-profile" spending ends, i hope we can replace them asap. sure AW101 is good (since it is designed as like-for-like replacement for sea king) but i'd take new Mi-171 as replacement. it's cheaper(1 AW101 = up to 5 Mi-171),battle proven and versatile enough.

sure it has it's weakness (being slow is one of them, though other more obscure fact is that Mi-171 cannot operate effectively in higher altitude, the reason why PLA still retain their S-70s),but for me, i'd prefer a hi-lo mix of more capable helos in smaller number (for spec ops, CSARs and inflitration deep in enemy line,etc) and less sophisticated helos in larger number (general transport,humanitarian effort,etc)
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post Dec 23 2013, 06:53 PM

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did they still produce fresh CH-47?
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post Dec 23 2013, 07:00 PM

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dalam perkara yang x berapa nk berkaitan

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post Dec 24 2013, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 24 2013, 05:52 AM)
heh ayam LOL
did you drew this?

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Nope....dirembat tanpa segan silu dari sini

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showt...-anyone/page111

QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 24 2013, 06:39 AM)
And the next step is how they gonna get the nuri off the island?
And that is really one steep cliff

Well we do have a bunch of these in sarawak
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Can carry light tank too
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Tauke balak punya bukan rmaf....

Besides, it,s role are limited to just cargo transport with the sling......S-61 can do undercarriage sling too

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post Dec 24 2013, 12:11 PM

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It was initially an accidential mistake by the artist. But the design of polandball(and polandball comic in general )became famous thus stuck to this day

Thus poland,indon,monaco and malta have become known as 'the kurwa quadruplets'
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post Dec 24 2013, 10:51 PM

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at one time, navies even used mortar in anti submarine warfare

we hired the korean to help us build a littoral patrol boat right? might as well as using their naval MLRS or light ASM missile. people might question the necessity of using an ASM against mundus' boat but consider this; their so going to cost us a lot more when they land on the our soil.

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