this is what I don't like. before Jellybean all games knows how to self install into SDcard. now they are not doing this?

Not AFAIK unless you use a root/hack method to partition your MicroSD card for installation/app usage etc.

Correct me if I am wrong.

it makes the MicroSD no longer hot swapable but I doubt it matters anyway... how much is a 64GB class 10 card anyway?

Folder Mount works, but you have to root your Android device. I've installed more than 20GB worth of games onto a 64GB microSDXC card when I had my SGS4 with its paltry 7GB free internal memory.

Problem is, rooting the Z1 now, at least when reported a few days back, will mess up the Z1 camera. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/unlo...-breaks-camera/

unlocking bootloader and rooting is whole different thing, don't worry

Beat me to it. LOL


It does. IIRC, doing so will also require you to use that MTP method for transferring stuff off your MicroSD, which I absolutely hate. I have never had good experience with MTP from the slow speed to the 1 file limitation as well as the inconsistency with the PC recognizing the storage.

Of course, this was my experience last year. Could have improved now, but it has still left a very sour taste in me.

Correct me if I'm wrong then, but why would anyone unlock bootloaders other than to install custom ROMs and run rooted apps? In which this case, Folder Mount need root permission to do so?

Root a phone and you have administration access such as changing the system file and stuff, therefore allow you to use rooted apps. But for unlocked bootloader, you able to change the rom and kernel, kernel is like windows bios, which is whole lot different story, it defines how the machine communicate with the software, thus allow overclocking and stuff like that. Sorry if my explanation is not clear enough.

So, in the context of what I posted against the previous restrictions of limited internal storage and expansion using Folder Mount, I was correct then, wouldn't you agree? The Folder Mount recommendation was in response to this conversation below:

And to use Folder Mount, root access is required, in which also implies unlocking bootloader. And unlocking bootloader = messed up Z1 camera. So where does this fits in your post, and I quote below:

Simply put: internal storage low. Cant install apps on SD card. Use Folder Mount. Folder Mount need root access. To root, need to also unlock bootloader. To unlock bootloader on Z1 = messed up camera.

I dont really care about the definition of rooting versus unlocking bootloader, just the fact that to alleviate the problem of low internal storage, you need Folder Mount, and Folder Mount needs rooting, rooting needs the Z1 to be bootloader unlocked.

You do not need to unlock bootloader to root a device

Okay, I guess I stand corrected. All these while I thought they both go hand in hand. All the instructions I went through to root my devices involves unlocking bootloader.

This usually when you are changing kernel or custom roms
there's some custom roms that can be done with locked bootloader.

In the case of having the to install Folder Mount app that requires root, would bypassing the need to unlock bootloader works? Coz of the camera issue mentioned previously.

the short answer is no.

in fact as other forumers pointed out, you don't need to unlock your bootloader to root because they are not even on the same level. in a nutshell,
root - gives you full control of your OS
unlock bootloader - opens up the limit of bootloader, which when locked, is only able to load stock ROM


the fact that you asked this question shows you don't really understand what is root and unlock bootloader yet. let me explain more in detail if you don't mind, otherwise you can skip it.


what is root vs unlocking bootloader?
root
root allows you to add superuser permission which gives you full control of your Operating System (more commonly referred to as ROM in Android community. That's it.
Once you have full control of your OS, you can also take full control of your hardware, such as overclocking, disabling the GPS, etc, but of course you need apps to do so. This is the same with the Folder Mount app.

unlock bootloader
bootloader is a program that loads the kernel and ROM. It is locked because manufacturers don't want you to simply install custom kernel. When you unlock it, then you can flash custom kernel, but it will be at your own risk because the warranty will be void.

In Sony's case, when you unlock the bootloader, they simply program it to auto-delete the DRM files thus render some apps useless, in the Z Ultra and Z1's case, the camera app too. luckily some XDA developer members have found some way to back it up unlike 2 years ago, there's no way to back it up at all.

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Sep 26 2013, 10:51 AM

thanks. I don't understand half of that, I'd rather follow simpler steps on how to install apps, and most of them require bootloader unlocking.

Forlder Mount was a suggestion for the previously discussed conversation between the two people I quoted before. I'm happy with my 16GB.

do you mind linking the instructions? let me have a look at what you have been looking at.
I mean the instructions to root.

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Sep 26 2013, 09:21 AM

How you guys think of the z1 len's glass ? is it easily scratched ? Found out that G2 len's glass is a saphire len....

Long time ago, last rooted device was HTC ONE. Can't remember which.

so this phone, feel any difference from other phones? anything special besides the 4k recording, hows the 4k recording anyway, anyone has ultra hd tv?

Haih! All talking professional made me speechless. sorry ya