your mesh wire filter is plain mesh wire filter right? not those k&n and work filter?

Ooooo. Ok. I plan to change the filter every 5K KM. About RM13 around my place.

U masuk hutan meh?

Mine one is Works.

I think cus I always stop like a feet or two away from the car in front, and cus of a lot of stop start traffic, so have to sniff the fumes day in day out.

And I use Signal oil on the filter.

Yes. K&N and Works drop in filter already much better than those mesh but still filteration is actually much weaker than stock although on paper it says it filters better. There is no 2 ways to it, faster air flow comes with more dirt getting thru. The price to pay to increased performance but long term wise, as TB get burden, performance will drop until you clean tb. For stock filter, you should be able to maintain consistent performance if you change by 10K mileage without getting tb clean. It will still accumulate carbon and dirt deposit but at a much much slower rate thus performance remain high for much longer.

ps. Since fuber using singer oil.....need to mention this. It was a well known fact that once reoil was done, its performance WILL drop as its oiling evenness can never match factory oiled standard. Lets hope singer oil never drop inside tb...(oiling too much).

This post has been edited by Cavino: Sep 26 2013, 03:21 PM

Apa ni, fuber? And I use Signal oil and not Singer oil. Got difference yo.

Oops.....tot you really use singer oil but to cheapskate to say it.... ...sorry.

Apa itu signal oil...

you takut panas sangat kut?
mine 100k km still cold de? but then not that cold now actually. going to service it soon. haha~~

really ah? I got feeling my car will feel damn light after TB cleaning


no need for that lah. when your air filter is very clean, you change also won't improve airflow. not really worth if you ask me. but then if you change it every 10k km i think still ok.

Oil from Mr DIY.

symptom of dirty TB difficult to know as u adapt to your car throttle response as u drive...it gets dirtier everyday and as u drive, u get used to it...for me i will do every 50000km lo...

and Works drop-in filtration not as good as K&N...shud b re-oil issue... K&N with proper re-oil kit will give good filtration but

Precisely why I mentioned the accumulated loss of power as it get dirtier negate the initial increase power and possibly fc saving early on. As it drags on and loss of power comes in gradually, the stock paper with much cleaner tb gradually exceeded drop in performance until you clean the tb. Stock paper cheap only while reoiling is still too much of a work. The same can't be said for stock paper of more higher end car, very expensive, (ie...city original stock cost abt RM70 now in SC) so for some saving cost using drop in makes sense.

cheap and works the same as regular reoil kit.

wow...expensive! but still, stock filter filtration is d best wad...

tak pernah re-oil my filter before...

Need to cut out the dirty section liao.

Try Signal Oil. Cheap and cheerful.

hahaha nice.. u all reli take good care of ur car..

i feel like revving with & without aircond hv some diff in power..

i know what u did there...

Why u dun belip ah?