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 REIT V5, Real Estate Investment Trust

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yok70
post Oct 30 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 30 2013, 05:23 PM)
Yes, reit has been underpressured since the word "tapering" pop up.
I forsee reit to be stagnant to slight downwards moving for near term if there is no major change in macro economy.

I do not think Fed is going to make any major move, considered that another debt limit saga may happen on Fed again.

Reit is for long term dividend yield play, tomorrow down/up  of a few cent or not shouldn't be the major consideration.

The consideration for reit,
1. Will the reit DPU is going to be stable? (aka lease term, tenant issue)
2. Will one satisfy the yield at the current price?
3. Will the property market face severe headwind, aka property may have hard time to lease out their property. (similar to one)
4. Will FD rate going to rise? As Reit yield is always need to compete with FD and bond yield.

Don't need to care how many seller or buyer out there for the market price out there.  smile.gif
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ya.
as for entry price target, i only look at yield. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 30 2013, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 30 2013, 05:33 PM)
3.00-3.20 shocking.gif
Aren't u a bit greedy? tongue.gif
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just target 5.5% net yield, inline with mall reits.
axreit now are trading at premium. laugh.gif
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post Oct 30 2013, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 30 2013, 05:51 PM)
Premium brand reit come with premium price.

In fact, it is one of reit that has showed consistent good rise in DPU over the years.

With DPU from 12~13 cents previously, now expect to go up to 18~19 cents.
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true. i waited for half a year still cannot get. maybe i should raise my target to 3.30 start collecting all the way....down. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 1 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(lowhankim @ Nov 1 2013, 05:28 PM)
My 2 cents thoughts...

For REIT especially with the mixed of retails malls, offices and others, the dividend is likely to be fruitful

Sharing my own analysis:

IGBREIT - will be estimating giving out 0.0300 +- dividend next year as they have started operating their shares since last year... (the 700% increase in profit is a true, but slightly misleading)

IGBREIT has been paying only 2 times dividend (Feb 2013 and Aug 2013) Ends at RM 1.22

SUNREIT - they have issue notice to surroundings retail outlet where their lease is about to expired in December 2013 that effective End Jan 2014, rental will yield up to 5% ~ 30% for some outlets... not forgetting that Sunway Hospital has been included into Sunreit portfolio.

Sunway has recently close the Sunway putera mall for refurbish, and will open in year 2015.

but Sunreit is giving a dividend up to 5%~6% overall, well better then my FD which is 4.18% from Hong Leong which tides your money for a year, shares can sell for profit.. SUNREIT RM 1.33

STAREIT is a good buy call as is giving out average of 6% to 7.24% base on current price.... although they give 2 times dividend a year but good enough... with the price of RM 1.02
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If you have info on how Stareit funds the new acquisitions of its Australia hotels, please share with us.
So far, I haven't read any details on how much eps dilution to be expected for that.
Thanks! laugh.gif
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post Nov 1 2013, 07:45 PM

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today see another upgrade on one of the S-REIT by IB. brows.gif
i've been seeing this happening in recent weeks.
i guess we are 1 quarter delay in M-REIT. maybe wait until next Chinese new year only can see recovery. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 1 2013, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 1 2013, 08:57 PM)
another 2cents of mine
STAREIT Australia hotel acquisition costs about Rm1.3b.its LT borrowings increase from 180million to about 1.58bilion, which i assume should be used to finance this acquisition
and there was this proposal to raise $800 milion by increasing fund size to 2.125bilion.i suppose this $800milion will be used to pare down the borrowings
without more info its hard to do any analysis about eps dilution.have to wait for their upcoming financial result to know more i think
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thanks.

ya, it's hard to make any judgement while the management "don't like to talk much".
and i wish IB can come cover this reit but still langsung tak ada. cry.gif
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post Nov 13 2013, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 12 2013, 04:32 PM)
is HEKTAR worth to invest in view of smaller capitalization retail REIT with focus on small towns malls? I also understand that their debt limit is close to max allowed limit.
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next year yield could be flat.
but flat means net yield of around 6.6%. good enough for you? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 14 2013, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 13 2013, 10:55 PM)
Rhb recommend Neutral on Hektar with FV @ 1.46
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FF continues selling on Malaysia market. 10-yr Bond yield raise to 3.85% today.
Will FF comes back? And why FF leaving us recently? That's where we should be looking at I guess.
This FV all depends on bond yield, besides fundamentals are still fine with it. cool2.gif
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post Nov 14 2013, 01:25 PM

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Looks like Zeti has the same thought as Cherroy. Looks like interest rate is unlikely to raise in near future. Even if it raises, there won't be much.....it seems lah. laugh.gif
Speaking of uncertainty in world economy, especially today, Euro zone, China, US, all are under uncertainty status. And this status should remain for at least another 4-5 years before solid growth can be seen. hmm.gif


The current monetary policy is still sufficient to provide an important
support to economic growth and will not be modified unless a significant change
in relevant condition occurs, Bank Negara Malaysia Governor Tan Sri Dr
Zeti Akhtar Aziz said. She said even if a policy response were required, which
is not currently the case, "there are other policy measures".

"We are in an economy that doesn't rely solely on interest rate policy
either to promote growth or address inflation," she was quoted in an
interview with financial news agency, Market News International, in
Switzerland on Tuesday.

 She said although inflation is going to increase, a number of factors
would ensure that the rise is only temporary, so that Malaysian
monetary authorities are not presently concerned about the outlook for
price stability.

 Zeti declined to respond to speculation that the next move could be a
hike, and did not give any explicit signal as to future policy actions.
 "I don't believe that uncertainty has lessened since Sep's Monetary
Policy Committee meeting. Even though global growth has improved,
which is a positive sign, there is still uncertainty and this recovery is still
vulnerable to setbacks," she said.

 "This is a period of uncertainty. We don't intend to provide the kind of
forward guidance for our policies that others have given; policy will be
based on our assessment of risks going forward. Bank Negara is
essentially in a wait-and-see mode for now," she added.

 Zeti anticipated the inflation would rise and could even increase to
above long-term average of 3.2 % next year as the government reduces
fuel subsidies. However, she said the effect is envisaged to be temporary
and is not something the central bank is concerned about.

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post Nov 14 2013, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 14 2013, 08:06 AM)
yield of 6.6% is as of current price of 1.5x? this is pretty good...

however, i currently have igbreit and sunreit...not sure whether worth adding another retail reit in my reit portfolio
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yes, at current price.
it's consider a big discount to better quality assets REITs such as pavilion or midvalley.
however, hektar has proven strong management team, holding and targeting 2nd class neighborhood mall assets. I look at this as defensive strategy actually since less competition as they are "just" serving the neighborhood instead of required to compete with some best malls in town. laugh.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 03:33 AM

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Moody's upgrade may attract FF back to our bond market?.....only time will tell. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 05:28 AM

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10-yr MGS hits above 4% today!
wow....REIT in danger..... sweat.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 22 2013, 09:47 AM)
Start collecting? that will increase the dividends received right?
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no, a higher bond yield means lower REIT's valuation. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 22 2013, 11:02 AM)
So that means we expect REIT DY of at least 6%  sweat.gif
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hopefully moody's upgrade can attract some FF to come buy back our bonds to press down yield. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 22 2013, 11:49 AM)
why press down yield.. higher yield better mah.. can accumulate more at cheaper price.  tongue.gif
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bond woh, high yield also you want meh? unless high until 8% loh. tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 22 2013, 12:02 PM)
still holding 70% cash...  tongue.gif
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huiyo!!! you are really a well trained ph34r.gif

i now left 5% cash only!!! betting on a year-end/new-year rally. sweat.gif

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post Nov 25 2013, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 22 2013, 12:27 PM)
How about selling some of the non-performing stocks? I am considering this option too  sweat.gif
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the most non performing stocks are my reits. waiting for chance to sell some more too. tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 01:43 PM)
I learn this the hard way & my biggest mistake.. been waiting for correction since 2009... now I know better, value is everywhere... depending on how hard you look..never anticipate what might or might not happen.
and now you still holding 70% cash waiting for durian to drop. tongue.gif
or you not selling much stocks, just your income from daily job increase too much cash. drool.gif
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post Nov 27 2013, 06:46 PM

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reit is dying. later yield becomes 8%. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 12:34 PM)
Added CMMT @ 1.45 .. 6.2% gross FY13DY..  wink.gif

MY FD account..  laugh.gif
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taikor starts shooting reits....good news! drool.gif

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