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 Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Official v2, 3rd gen of the best phablet

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post Sep 11 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 11 2013, 08:33 AM)
Am I lost? Is this iPhone 5S (stands for Same but Superb) and iPhone 5C(stands for Colour but cheap) thread? Or is it the awesomely, godlike supreme phablet the Note III?
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We're discussing how bad iPhone 5S/C compare to Note 3. rclxms.gif

Once again, Note 3 is alone at the throne of best phone in the market for longest time running brows.gif

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post Sep 11 2013, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Sep 11 2013, 08:49 AM)
Ipoop pricing 5S & 5C is a joke or what?. Android devices will be more attractive now.
Note 3 again is the beast to be recon with. To me IPoop = IFail.
Now Crapple is really digging their own grave.  smile.gif
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Yes, they are digging grave and here's the proof:-

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post Sep 11 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 11 2013, 09:46 AM)
The new iPhone is exactly as Parody said.

iPhone 5C = Cheap
iPhone 5S = Same

But no deny the 5S - GOLD color look solid beauty, and premium, and that new Sapphire Crystal button is cool.
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Hey hey, not true.

5C = Color
S = Same

Check the price yo.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 11 2013, 10:24 AM)
Cheap = Cheap look and Cheap material use.
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LOL. You might be right on that. laugh.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:26 AM)
Yet you will still see buyers queue up to buy it. It is after all an Apple! I have used all the iPhone series till ip5 n yet none of them ever impresses me. All this talk of smoothness is just an illusion as Apple knows once they allow widgets n 3rd party launcher interference they will lose their edge. I was so crazy that I paid rm1000 extra premium for the very first iphone.
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Not sure there will be any queue now. The queue for buying high tech stuff will be a memory we cherished as techno buff.

QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 10:28 AM)
5s pricing is probably high to recover the r&d costs for the 64 bit cpu but if you look at how intel prices their stuff, new architecture fits in at the same price points of the old architecture while they quickly deprecate the old one.

Maybe they think the faithful will open their mouths wider to swallow a longer register....
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You talk about 64bit only for addressing yesterday.

64 bit architecture is not only for memory address.

iOS7 native code incorporate new 64 bit instruction set. Means, 1 instruction in 64 bit can do 2 things when using 32bit instruction. It will be faster I think. decoding will be faster because 1 clock cycle can decode 2 things. But executing might be same.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(cskean @ Sep 11 2013, 10:35 AM)
Is it reliable? Cause I am hoping to get the LTE version...
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yes. Lelong already have LTE version N3. Go and search.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(cskean @ Sep 11 2013, 10:40 AM)
Mind to share where did you get the price for Note2 SME set for RM1469? Pls pm or reply here.

TQVM...
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it was on Ebay . com . my

But now the price is RM1499. It go up and go down for the lulz
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:42 AM)
LTE is useless when i in digi line lol

digi oh digi
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blame the government for not letting DiGi get LTE
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(destEX @ Sep 11 2013, 10:44 AM)
blame half the citizens for voting in that said gov
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lol

QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 10:45 AM)
Err...yes, I do know about the register length etc. Just that RAM addressing is the most visible manifestation, at least where Intel is concerned. I have read that ARM has the extended addressing mode that allows 48bit addressing on current 32bit CPUs, but if we get native 64 bits, then I suppose it makes sense that addressing is also fully 64bits.

The fetch and decode will depend on pipelining etc etc and whole volumes are available on the subject.

However I still think that this is the dawn of 64 bit development for mobile, since the mindset of mobile and low power consumption devices has always been "cram more into as little space (RAM/registers/storage) as possible".

And you have the Arduino etc movement which is doing exactly the same thing of cramming more into a limited computing power device.

Now if 64 bit low power computing is widely available, your fridge can now talk to you and perhaps tell your microwave to preheat stuff before your dinner......imagine Google Now on EVERYTHING.......
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QUOTE(cskean @ Sep 11 2013, 10:48 AM)
Oh, thanks for the info...

I was searching at the GS and most of the reputable sellers are selling at 1499...

What do you think about the price, will it drop further before Note 3 launch?
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Yes, definitely it'll drop further. Note 1 drop until RM13xx before finally disappear from the market.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(cskean @ Sep 11 2013, 10:57 AM)
Oh, perhaps I should wait till after the Note 3 launch in MY, then only buy the Note 2 for my wife...

And in the mean time, I will grab the Note3 myself, is just have most of what I want, bigger screen, more ram, bigger internal storage, higher camera mp...

Gosh, my pocket is going to burn a big hole this time...

Btw, any idea whats the market price for the Note 2 Red color?
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You can't get Note 2 Red. Its quite limited in production.

You can only get Grey, White and Pink.
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Sep 11 2013, 12:25 PM)
Are you sure bro..?
Did you know that currently Note1 price is more expensive than Note2....it's RM1599 vs RM1499 tongue.gif

And Note1 still available at market. Check DirectD and SatuGadget.
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I talk about normal stock la. Those Note1 now is for collection purpose. Pricing is not regulated.
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post Sep 11 2013, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Sep 11 2013, 12:33 PM)
Lol..2nd hand Note1 can get at that price bro biggrin.gif
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now note1 is just leftover stock. Samsung not making it. Thus no real retail price.
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Sep 11 2013, 02:04 PM)
Yes, of course is good news, I prefer Qualcomm more than Exynos. Just can't wait local Malaysia launching and get one demo unit try to use. 25 September just 2 more weeks ahead! biggrin.gif
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but but... Exynos have 8 cores that run together wor? hmm.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 11 2013, 02:18 PM)
that 8 cores combine the slow/fast quad together... so not really gain much not mentioning the power consumption when processing using 8 cores firing up... the S8 power saving method seem valid so qualcomm would be better choice...  nod.gif
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well, background service can use slow core while apps can use fast core.

If S800, 2 fast core use for background. Only 2 core used for apps.

I think Exynos will beat S800 by huge margin in multiprocessing.
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 11 2013, 02:23 PM)
u are wrong... mostly all multiprocessing thread will be treat as single workload and firing up cores accordingly and dont think the android os will choose background process using slow cores and foreground program using fast cores... then the exynos cores switching seem facing difficulties currently and that's why they make all 8 cores mixable during load, mean they simply give up the selective cores switching altogether and sacrifice the power consumption...  doh.gif
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eh, sorry. I didn't know you wrote MP processing task for Android OS.

So they'll just time slice it and send to all cores without caring if its slow or fast cores (when 8 core enable)?
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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 02:27 PM)
8 cores "in the coming months" if you read the articles carefully.  whistling.gif

Maybe they will have a 5425? Or 5520?

Exynos may probably beat Snapdragon in a multithreaded  benchmark like linpack but don't know how that translates to a real life experience.

You're not going to type your text 4 times faster or talk at 4x speed.....
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Haha, you're right. But as spec/gear head, the more the merrier laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 11 2013, 02:31 PM)
for exynos fan... tongue.gif

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/exynos-...ssist-and-ener/

what i only know more core mean more power usage... quad already plenty and now octa that's crazy... they're shot at the own foot when the banner stated big.LITTLE while now they're approaching full 8 cores mixing... doh.gif
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Wow, I guess it right that S4 Exynos will be more responsive now. No need to switch thread. just continue using the same thread/core until finish before shutdown.

s4 exynos price will go up soon. drool.gif
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 11 2013, 02:35 PM)
why not later come out huge.BIG or humongous.HUGE.... LOL!!! tongue.gif
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Why u no like 8 core? ohmy.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 02:43 PM)
S4 exynos has a borked core cluster controller. It can't perform granular switching.
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sorry, I search borked core cluster controller and found nothing. icon_question.gif

Does the scenario I describe can be considered as granular switching? I thought I say that
a program no need to switch core half way if all 8 cores are activated. So less switching.

Less switching = good = more responsive

S4 Exynos will become faster than Snapdragon version. rclxms.gif

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