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projectnew
post Sep 3 2013, 10:50 PM

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Ed woodward need to play football manager more... Ik onw it is irrelevant but he doesn't know the market well enough to get the players... we could have hijack eriksen deal... but nooooo we let tottenham sign him for 11mil...
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post Sep 3 2013, 10:55 PM

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I've never really fancied Eriksen , even when we were linked to him . Though we shall see how he performs in BPL .

For now , it's time for us to move and , regardless if it's woodward's fault or not , I just hope we can play good football and start winning again .
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post Sep 3 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(SomeoneElse @ Sep 3 2013, 10:55 PM)
I've never really fancied Eriksen , even when we were linked to him . Though we shall see how he performs in BPL .

For now , it's time for us to move and , regardless if it's woodward's fault or not , I just hope we can play good football and start winning again .
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11mil for a 21 year old well known wonderkid in ajax.. already 50 times better than cleverley... seriously worth flipping a table... 11mil man..
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post Sep 3 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(projectnew @ Sep 3 2013, 11:03 PM)
11mil for a 21 year old well known wonderkid in ajax.. already 50 times better than cleverley... seriously worth flipping a table... 11mil man..
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post Sep 3 2013, 11:26 PM

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#woodwardout



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post Sep 3 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(mingxhin @ Sep 3 2013, 10:08 PM)
Interesting article on the Hererra case.

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That is one seriously complicated transfer right there. Quite understandable from Bilbao's POV that they want to complicate things to prevent other clubs from snapping up their stars. Basically there are more than 2 parties are involved in this transfer snag.

Whatever it is, if Moyes is seriously interested in Herrera, he will come back for him and exploit the loophole. Complicated enough to make one confused. God save them.

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post Sep 4 2013, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 3 2013, 11:38 PM)
That is one seriously complicated transfer right there. Quite understandable from Bilbao's POV that they want to complicate things to prevent other clubs from snapping up their stars. Basically there are more than 2 parties are involved in this transfer snag.

Whatever it is, if Moyes is seriously interested in Herrera, he will come back for him and exploit the loophole. Complicated enough to make one confused. God save them.
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sooo ... basically Bilbao wants to get money in hand first before the Financial Counsel get it. correct me if i'm wrong .. hmm.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 12:45 AM

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Manchester United have paid FC Zurich £700,000 for Switzerland Under-18 starlet Saidy Janko, who has been called a 'super talent'.

Read more at: http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/...gy-1627805.html
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QUOTE(benrahman @ Sep 4 2013, 12:45 AM)
Manchester United have paid FC Zurich £700,000 for Switzerland Under-18 starlet Saidy Janko, who has been called a 'super talent'.

Read more at: http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/...gy-1627805.html
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just read at manutd.com

actually MU didnt only sign fellani yesterday...young player for future....

but still #woodwardout

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post Sep 4 2013, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(munky @ Sep 3 2013, 12:32 PM)
lets hope arsenal take a good care of ozil. Next season we go take him to OT like v. persie muahahaha
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:23 AM

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post Sep 4 2013, 06:45 AM

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Sep 4 2013, 12:50 AM)
just read at manutd.com

actually MU didnt only sign fellani yesterday...young player for future....

but still #woodwardout
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2 unknown and 1 BPL established player for us this summer. Looking forward on how fast Varela & Janko (right back) snip into 1st eleven team. I can't stand watching Valencia playing right back. sweat.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(projectnew @ Sep 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
Ed woodward need to play football manager more... Ik onw it is irrelevant but he doesn't know the market well enough to get the players... we could have hijack eriksen deal... but nooooo we let tottenham sign him for 11mil...
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I think it's Moyes' call on who to buy. Ed Woodward just works out the transfer deal. Sure Eriksen has looked good but he's another player that predominantly plays in the hole where Rooney/Kagawa play. If we had bought Eriksen, "fans" would have started complaining that Moyes isn't allowing Januzaj to grow. There are so many things fans can complain about, you can't please everyone.

He's a wonderkid on FM doesn't mean he's a wonderkid in real life.
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post Sep 4 2013, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Sep 4 2013, 06:54 AM)
I think it's Moyes' call on who to buy. Ed Woodward just works out the transfer deal. Sure Eriksen has looked good but he's another player that predominantly plays in the hole where Rooney/Kagawa play. If we had bought Eriksen, "fans" would have started complaining that Moyes isn't allowing Januzaj to grow. There are so many things fans can complain about, you can't please everyone.

He's a wonderkid on FM doesn't mean he's a wonderkid in real life.
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True, although he might be talented as well. I think he is a talent, but not sure if has progressed as well as years before when the big clubs are keeping tabs on him. If he is that talented, the big boys would have been all over him by now. Perhaps, he would prove all of us wrong still.

I think we should be more patient in terms of the AM position, where Rooney/Kagawa are pretty much occupying now. Janujaz I think is the biggest talent that could play in that role, and after pre-season, he looks the most skilful on the ball among the youngsters. Doesn't rely on speed or strength, but with tricks and speed of thought. Something some current players are lacking.

Have faith in DM. At least have faith in Wazza/Kagawa combo, soon!
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post Sep 4 2013, 08:01 AM

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Did DM really go for all those players that papers said or agent/club/players bid themselves up for potential clubs????


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post Sep 4 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 3 2013, 11:38 PM)
That is one seriously complicated transfer right there. Quite understandable from Bilbao's POV that they want to complicate things to prevent other clubs from snapping up their stars. Basically there are more than 2 parties are involved in this transfer snag.

Whatever it is, if Moyes is seriously interested in Herrera, he will come back for him and exploit the loophole. Complicated enough to make one confused. God save them.
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QUOTE(Haza_izzz @ Sep 4 2013, 12:22 AM)
sooo ... basically Bilbao wants to get money in hand first before the Financial Counsel get it. correct me if i'm wrong .. hmm.gif
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you must understand that bilbao is a very traditional club and it dictates that their players MUST come from the basque region. that greatly depletes the number of talent which can be found and more importantly willing to play for or stay at the club

If i were bilbao, money will be secondary because you won't be discovering football talents every year in basque

bayern's trick was to twist the creditor's (bilbao financial council) arm instead of the debtor's (bilbao) to force the deal through
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 3 2013, 10:29 PM)
Supposed to put this one up last nite. but due to that bloody transfer window thingie & too busy fapping over those potential players joining. Hence the post now.

Flash back to weekend's north-west derby game. I dunno about u guys but we were simply overrun by their midfield. brazilian midfield + their captain + always-looked-blur-kid were pressuring our midfield duo all the time. We were stil playing our usual 442 whilst the home team were playing 451. Leaving their spanish + ex-Internazionale on the wing & the other 3 kept hassling our C16 + Clevz. C16 was unable to take his time and spray those delicious pass/cross that he intended. Hence the lost possession in the 1st half. But that 1st half performance is more than enough a testament for me that we bloody need a bulldog in the middle of the pitch to stand firm and kick opponents back to their closet and strike fear in them. Since early days, we had Keano, then came Hargo, and then Fletchinho at some point. I didn't put C16 in the list 'cos he simply not that kinda hard-tackling midfielder. Like my last long-post illustrated previously, he's likened to Pirlo, an all rounder that read the game well and make tackles when necessary. We've been crying for that steel in midfield for few years now. Fair enough, we make do with what we have in midfield as SAF chose to reinforce other areas of the field, which he did splendidly. 2nd half, home side is already started to protect the lead and not conceding. Seriously, with pariah centrebacks duo of them, we should be able to shackle them down with our constant wing play. But no, our wing were non-existant until Tony V came in. If you look at our midfeld that started that nite, Clev-C16-G11-Youngie. The latter two were non-existant until they got subbed. Offered no threat at any point of time. Waste of my time watching the team play. Wing play is always our forte. ManUtd without wing play is not ManUtd. So don't bloody change it. But sadly our wings were clipped that nite. Clipped by Glen-bloody-Johnson!! I personally never rated this guy at all. Their left back on the other hand...........Their 2 little wingers were so easily shackled if play with muscles. Just look at how Tony V shook off their beloved brazilian playmaker with ease (Welcome to BPL, beetches). There's a reason why Internazionale wanna offload him. Mark my word, he won't last long in his current club. Rmbr that "flying" Chilean winger that they once so proud lastime? He's currently plying his trade in Russian league now.

Anyway, we lost the game to ourselves. Not to the home side. Players failed to turn up when it matter the most. G11 has been starting for 3 games in a row. I have a jersey with his NNs on. But I think enough is enough. Player at his age should be a bit part player, not starting high-tension game like this. Bring experience to the young 'uns u say? How dafuq are the young 'uns gonna gain experience if you keep starting those old fags?!?! I foresee the same to Rio next season onwards. On the question where Jonesy should play. This guy is our new utility player, no doubt. But he impressed me during his Rovers' days when he was playing centre back and charging like a bulldog for every single ball as if his life depends on it. I'm not sure why SAF wanted him to play different position ie. DM/MC/RB but his true, natural position is where Rio + VIda is playing now: Centre-bloody-Back. Read a few articles, realised that my beloved DDG had a quiet nite aside from that fortuitous goal. But safe hands when called upon, which was rare from the home side.

Then again, what's done is done. We lost the game. 3pts gone. Like Vida said, it's stil early days. No need to panic yet. They might win the battle, but we will win the war!

Back to last nite's tranfer dateline. I came across a post in redcafe that you lotsa can read it HERE. What the poster said is rite. We've got bloody 2months to do all the stuff. But no, they decided to leave it til the end to do it. Seriously, u kidding me?! Kayu flew back to UK when the squad was in Australia tour in the middle of July. WIth the level of technologies nowadays, is it really necessary to fly back that urgent?! Seriously?! I kenot brain wtf was he doing since then.

Then, came along those ridiculous bids. £25m opening bid for Cesc. £12m for Baines. Less than £30m for the Everton duo, then increased to £35m for both. I'm not sure what weed are they smoking but these kinda bids are bound to get rejected without question. Not forgetting that we went public that we wanted to sign Cesc. I can't rmbr when was the lastime during SAF era that we publicly came out do that kinda announcement before the deal is completed. Heck, we always get surprises. We were linked with Thiago, then to Cesc, then to Cabaye, then outta nowhere emerged Herrera. We've got 2 months since June, 2-bloody-months to get all these settled but this Kayu chose to clock-up his airmiles for no goddamn reason. In the end, we only got what we've crying along, a steel, a threat in the air, an afro in the mould of Fellaini. Which brings me to another topic, DM has been a Toffee for the past decade me thinks. He knows well enough the contract that he negotiated with Fellaini. There's a release clause existed in afro's contract which expired in end-of-July. What was Kayu doing then?! No one knows if DM indeed had a gentleman agreement with Bill Kenwright that he can't use that clause. However the truth is Bill decided to screw DM over and we ended up paid few millions quid extra for afro's service. Some people pointed out that afro being 1st/2nd/panic buy. If you do not work in corporate world before, u don't know the trick at all. So read my previous redcafe link punya post. Until then, stfu.

As for Herrera, well this got me exciting outta nowhere. Those who knows me I'm a FM gamer. I played this guy before in one of my previous games and Herrera is like a combo of afro + C16, an all-rounder of a midfield. Can tackle + creative but physically abit sweat.gif I'm surprised to see his name suddenly popped outta nowhere. Could this be DM's new scout team's recommendation? If true, I think we can expect more already. Then again, Herrera was one of the star performer during our defeat to Bilbao in Europa League few seasons back. He has a release clause of £30.75m/36m euros. What did our Kayu do? He bidded 30m euros. But then again, this is still unconfirmed as apparently some "impostors" were in the mix and wanna get a cut outta the Herrera deal and pretended to be United officials. You can get more details in HERE. Poor kid. he reportedly willing to reduce his wage to join us, only to be screwed over by these buncha money-psychos. If we ever were to go back to him again during winter transfer, I doubt he will join us, again.

If Herrera deal were to go through, I can foresee both afro + Herrera will be our main midfield duo that'll boss BPL for a foreseeable future. As much potential as Clev has is concern, it'll depend how his development goes. Don't forget, Carrick aint young, we need someone to replace him, and that someone will not be Clev 'cos both of 'em play differently. That being said, with the addition of afro, i hope we can play that 4411 that once made DM's Everton so successful lastime around. Wing play + SS/AMC or whateva dahell uol wanna call that position + lone striker.

With that being said, that concludes my long post is long. Mau watch aeroplane drama riao.

EDIT: budakhijau beetch pls... NEXT.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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notworthy.gifsinoffire notworthy.gif i always luv it when u write...given sos from redcafe...included all the opinion from british side...details research...well done...i'll be back soon with TLDR beetches...ahahahahaha

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only got D .... u failed !!!!

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Manchester United

In: Marouane Fellaini, Guillermo Varela

Out: Scott Wootton, Paul Scholes (retired), Nick Powell (loan)


Marouane Fellaini
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It took until the eleventh hour, but United finally secured Marouane Fellaini.
This is one we're going to hear a lot more about, which effectively sums it all up. Three key facts sum up what was essentially one of the most important summers in the club's entire history after the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson. First of all, United badly wanted a marquee name to alter the tone after that seismic event; they got none. Secondly, Moyes was desperate for at least two midfielders to improve an area he was increasingly concerned about; he got one. Finally, even in order to get Fellaini, United had to overpay after a summer of trying to underpay. That further reflects the apparent absence of any kind of clear plan, which also saw the club sway from not just different target to different target, but even different styles of targets. After all that, keeping Wayne Rooney seems even more important and may end up proving their best piece of business. The United team is ultimately still competitive and Fellaini fits into what Moyes wants while also filling a gap. United, though, wanted to do more than fill a gap. They wanted to make a statement and a response. Instead, their image has been damaged and questions about their direction raised. It has been a PR disaster, and one that may have an on-pitch effect.

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more news ... sos
soccernet sos...

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in the end (of transfer window), im happy with the conclusion. we bought Fellaini, Zaha and Varela. rooney and Nani are likely to stay.

but disappointing with how we conducted it. Thiago, Fabregas, Modric etc dont want to come to OT, its fine. we cant throw money to them like City.

but ironically we wasting 4-5 mil GBP and wait until dying minutes to seal Fellaini move. Herrera bid collapsed. and what with Contrao deal? Evra and Fabio must be feeling they are not in DM main plan.

thats disgraceful and shameful. i hope we learn from that mistakes.

move on, we have a better team than before albeit our rivals seem strengthening very much. cant wait for the next games..

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