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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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post Sep 25 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 25 2013, 10:15 PM)
I can't seem to help but see the blame being put on bumi's for not saving in ASB. I think people need to understand that a majority of bumi's are struggling economically just to put food on the table never mind save/invest. I agree

Bumi's have the highest number of people living either at or below the prescribed poverty line in the ratio amongst the races. They also represent the majority of those with the lowest household income both in terms of median and mean scales. This one I'm not sure, but from my personal observation most already above poverty line

When one struggles with rising inflation, depressed wages and high cost of living, even those living in big cities would struggle. And how about those living outside the big cities? When we're in their shoes, the priorities are different. Almost everyone feels the rising cost of living, not only bumi

I'm sure that there are bumi's reading this thread and are feeling just as envious looking at non-bumi's having the opportunity to have funds to save/invest. They would have the same feeling too don't you think? We struggle with our life, save bit by bit, searching for the best ROI & lowest risk to "support" our family. It's not we get "spoon-feed".

And also please stop repeating the same comment over and over again. ASB is an open ended fund and can never be fully taken up unlike the other funds. Even if each and every single Malaysian bumi maxed out their ASB accounts, the fund will still be available. Correct, "open" opportunity forever 

ASB is an open ended fund, it can never be fully subscribed even if cats grow horns wink.gif hahahahah, Nice one
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 25 2013, 10:15 PM)
I can't seem to help but see the blame being put on bumi's for not saving in ASB. I think people need to understand that a majority of bumi's are struggling economically just to put food on the table never mind save/invest.
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well, there is always 2-side of a story wink.gif

some have the bullets but no target, some have targets but no bullets, some even ignore the target, and those who got the bullets and targets didn't shoot at all



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post Sep 25 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 25 2013, 10:40 PM)
well, there is always 2-side of a story  wink.gif

some have the bullets but no target, some have targets but no bullets, some even ignore the target, and those who got the bullets and targets didn't shoot at all
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I think I somehow understand what you trying to say.

1. Some got money, but don't invest

2. Some already identify the investment but no money

3. Some already know the investment very good, but chose to ignore it

4. Already got the money & identify the investment but No action taken
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:04 PM

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Some Ppl even procrastinate their investment
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:14 PM

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Maybe this one of the reason

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post Sep 25 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 25 2013, 11:14 PM)
Maybe this one of the reason

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some people believe all sort of funny things if religion is included

case example: golden churn butter. the best and most delicious butter in the world. malaysia say haram. i say fark it. i still eated it. it's a mafakin butter. for god's sake


but anyhow, the letter doesn't come from Fatwa Council. And most insiders will know where ASB incomes are generated from... wink.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 25 2013, 11:19 PM)
some people believe all sort of funny things if religion is included

case example: golden churn butter. the best and most delicious butter in the world. malaysia say haram. i say fark it. i still eated it. it's a mafakin butter. for god's sake
but anyhow, the letter doesn't come from Fatwa Council. And most insiders will know where ASB incomes are generated from...  wink.gif
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fffuuuuu the butter churn. So nice spreading on bread and doing cake or muffin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 25 2013, 11:19 PM)
some people believe all sort of funny things if religion is included

case example: golden churn butter. the best and most delicious butter in the world. malaysia say haram. i say fark it. i still eated it. it's a mafakin butter. for god's sake
but anyhow, the letter doesn't come from Fatwa Council. And most insiders will know where ASB incomes are generated from... wink.gif
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SO the letter is fake lar. Tis not the reason nod.gif hmm.gif

The golden churn butter very good eh, I never eaten before
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 25 2013, 10:40 PM)

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Correct, above poverty line.... that one i'm very sure..
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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 25 2013, 05:34 PM)
yup.. if for wawasan 2020, it will fall under non-bumi quota.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 25 2013, 05:38 PM)
Yup. Like ASW2020 & AS1M they all are categorized as non-bumi & are accorded to their race (for AS1M). The Only thing they can invest in ASB while others non-bumi cannot  nod.gif

At least their are lucky can invest in ASB, while people like me  cry.gif  cry.gif
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i see.. dont worry bro.. since no tongkat.. it makes people more smart to think of ways to get rich. hence getting smarter and smarter..
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post Sep 26 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 25 2013, 10:55 PM)
I think I somehow understand what you trying to say.

1. Some got money, but don't invest

2. Some already identify the investment but no money

3. Some already know the investment very good, but chose to ignore it

4. Already got the money & identify the investment but No action taken
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Totally agree with those statements..

I am the one who already identify and know the investment is very good, but no sufficient 'bullets (money)'..
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I only found out that I can opened ASB after converting to Islam for 2 years. No one update me on this.

And yes there is bumi who didn't save a penny and always with attitude "biar papa asal gaya"..


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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 25 2013, 08:58 PM)
Your mom ask & you rejected it  doh.gif

It's too bad, already missed the boat & cannot "catch" it anymore  nod.gif
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that time i was still young, and we didn't know it'll be so difficult to top-up.
anyway, like you said, missed the boat and can't catch anymore.

fortunately, i managed to open accounts for my children and for myself under ASM rclxms.gif
never repeat the same mistake cool2.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 25 2013, 08:58 PM)
U never xpect this will happen
Anyway, life still goes on
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Yeah... learned the lesson the hard way
so I opened individual accounts for my children and myself when we got the chance to get ASM smile.gif
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QUOTE(justin_5 @ Sep 26 2013, 05:41 AM)
i see.. dont worry bro.. since no tongkat.. it makes people more smart to think of ways to get rich. hence getting smarter and smarter..
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I totally agree with you nod.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(pilopilo @ Sep 26 2013, 11:03 AM)
that time i was still young, and we didn't know it'll be so difficult to top-up.
anyway, like you said, missed the boat and can't catch anymore.

fortunately, i managed to open accounts for my children and for myself under ASM  rclxms.gif
never repeat the same mistake  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(pilopilo @ Sep 26 2013, 11:16 AM)
Yeah... learned the lesson the hard way
so I opened individual accounts for my children and myself when we got the chance to get ASM  smile.gif
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Good, at least you did the right decision for your children by opening ASM.

Lesson learned - when got any opening for new scheme, even no enough money, try buy min rm100 just to get the passbook nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 26 2013, 12:54 PM)
Good, at least you did the right decision for your children by opening ASM.

Lesson learned - when got any opening for new scheme, even no enough money, try buy min rm100 just to get the passbook  nod.gif
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ya... i'll do that. thanks for the advice.

btw, last time i heard about sukuk. is this similar to all this asnb scheme? but it's just for a short period of time like 3 or 5 years?
or i got the info wrong? please advise? thanks icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(pilopilo @ Sep 26 2013, 01:16 PM)
ya... i'll do that.  thanks for the advice.

btw, last time i heard about sukuk. is this similar to all this asnb scheme? but it's just for a short period of time like 3 or 5 years?
or i got the info wrong? please advise? thanks  icon_question.gif
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it's okay. No problem.

Yup there's sukuk simpanan for 3 years term only. Max 50k for under 55 & 100k for above 55. Guarantee dividend rate of 5%p.a paid every Q to your bank account. Now already matured. No more the scheme.

Donno if future got anymore hmm.gif let's wait for Najib Announcement (IF ANY) nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 26 2013, 01:26 PM)
it's okay. No problem.

Yup there's sukuk simpanan for 3 years term only. Max 50k for under 55 & 100k for above 55. Guarantee dividend rate of 5%p.a  paid every Q to your bank account. Now already matured. No more the scheme. 

Donno if future got anymore  hmm.gif let's wait for Najib Announcement (IF ANY)  nod.gif
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Yeah, will wait for the next sukuk fund

I'm actually considering SSPN. I know it's launched awhile ago but I haven't made up my mind.
Maybe it's actually a good investment: tax relief and future PTPTN for my children.

But I've invested in UT and i do monthly averaging (is this how u call it?).
Hmm... still thinking still thinking... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pilopilo @ Sep 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
Yeah, will wait for the next sukuk fund

I'm actually considering SSPN. I know it's launched awhile ago but I haven't made up my mind.
Maybe it's actually a good investment: tax relief and future PTPTN for my children.

But I've invested in UT and i do monthly averaging (is this how u call it?).
Hmm... still thinking still thinking...  hmm.gif
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What you think is the best for you, just go.

About UT investment, It's called Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) or in Malaysia (RCA). UT is also good investment but the variable pricing may pose some risk. It's depend timing.

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